Salvage Hunters..

[Old Frightful]

Watching an episode tonight and they've invited a special guest with them in their tour for antiques, Johnny Vegas.

Their first visit takes them to the town of Wigan which, as the narrator explains, "is the home of the World's most successful Rugby League team".

I wonder if Johnny was spitting feathers?

[jacksy]

Hard to argue against though isnt it?

Those 80s 90s Wigan teams were something.

Compared to the style of game/rules/quality of player and the showers that this Saints team have faced these last few years..there is no comparison.

Even as an FC fan i know  people who don't follow league would mention Wigan and KR before Saints.

[jacksy]

2 minutes ago, jacksy said:

Oops

 

 

[Eddie]

5 hours ago, jacksy said:

Hard to argue against though isnt it?

Those 80s 90s Wigan teams were something.

Compared to the style of game/rules/quality of player and the showers that this Saints team have faced these last few years..there is no comparison.

Even as an FC fan i know  people who don't follow league would mention Wigan and KR before Saints.

Not sure about KR mate. 

[Anita Bath]

5 hours ago, jacksy said:

Hard to argue against though isnt it?

Those 80s 90s Wigan teams were something.

Compared to the style of game/rules/quality of player and the showers that this Saints team have faced these last few years..there is no comparison.

Even as an FC fan i know  people who don't follow league would mention Wigan and KR before Saints.

Sounds like the world must stop at the M62. Obviously the narrator hasnt heard thatAustralia was ‘discovered’ a few years back.

[Eddie]

6 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

Sounds like the world must stop at the M62. Obviously the narrator hasnt heard thatAustralia was ‘discovered’ a few years back.

Which Aussie team are more successful than Wigan? 

[Anita Bath]

Valleys Diehards 23 BRL championships while it was a first class competition

[roughyed8]

6 hours ago, jacksy said:

Hard to argue against though isnt it?

Those 80s 90s Wigan teams were something.

Compared to the style of game/rules/quality of player and the showers that this Saints team have faced these last few years..there is no comparison.

Even as an FC fan i know  people who don't follow league would mention Wigan and KR before Saints.

The Wigan teams of the 80s/90s were a full time team playing against part-timers, they spent money on overseas players and cherry picking the best British players like it was going out of fashion. That policy while getting them lots of trophies ultimately resulted in them almost going bust and selling off Central Park only to end up as arguably second class tennants at the JJB stadium.

[gingerjon]

Just now, roughyed8 said:

The Wigan teams of the 80s/90s were a full time team playing against part-timers, they spent money on overseas players and cherry picking the best British players like it was going out of fashion. That policy while getting them lots of trophies ultimately resulted in them almost going bust and selling off Central Park only to end up as arguably second class tennants at the JJB stadium.

Bit longwinded for a light hearted non sport TV programme, that.

[Just Browny]

11 hours ago, Old Frightful said:

Watching an episode tonight and they've invited a special guest with them in their tour for antiques, Johnny Vegas.

Their first visit takes them to the town of Wigan which, as the narrator explains, "is the home of the World's most successful Rugby League team".

I wonder if Johnny was spitting feathers?

More importantly, how much did the experts think an antique like Tommy Leuluai would be worth?

[Old Frightful]

53 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Bit longwinded for a light hearted non sport TV programme, that.

To say nowt of the possibility of getting the WDL's backs up.

[gingerjon]

2 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

To say nowt of the possibility of getting the WDL's backs up.

I think we were all outraged that Browny was given free range to vent his hate on the BBC.

[Old Frightful]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

Not sure about KR mate. 

Sadly, I have to agree with Jacksy here. Although clearly not in terms of success, the name "Hull Kingston Rovers" is a rather unusual one and is synonymous with RL.

I feel rather dirty now...

 

[Eddie]

6 minutes ago, Old Frightful said:

Sadly, I have to agree with Jacksy here. Although clearly not in terms of success, the name "Hull Kingston Rovers" is a rather unusual one and is synonymous with RL.

I feel rather dirty now...

 

Maybe in Hull and the heartlands but I don’t think anyone under the age of 50 who isn’t a RL fan would know of them any more than Bradford, Saints or Warrington.

[Eddie]

1 hour ago, Anita Bath said:

Valleys Diehards 23 BRL championships while it was a first class competition

Wigan have won 22 leagues, 19 CCs and 4 WCCs. 

[Old Frightful]

14 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Maybe in Hull and the heartlands but I don’t think anyone under the age of 50 who isn’t a RL fan would know of them any more than Bradford, Saints or Warrington.

Although it pains me to disagree, there was an article somehow related to RL on Radio 1 years ago, nothing to do with any particular team, and the name they plucked out of the air was Hull Kingston Rovers.

I'm still recovering..

[Anita Bath]

4 hours ago, Eddie said:

Wigan have won 22 leagues, 19 CCs and 4 WCCs. 

They dont have a challenge cup down under, and WCC wasnt going when valleys were winning their championships.

They are the most succesful team in wigan though.

[Spidey]

6 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

They dont have a challenge cup down under, and WCC wasnt going when valleys were winning their championships.

They are the most succesful team in wigan though.

If you want to count regional comps like BRL why not add in 18 Lancashire League titles for Wigan?

[Bearman]

There is a cachet that some names have.

Whenever I told someone that I knew the names of all the Scottish soccer teams home group they would always test me with Hamilton Academicals?.

Ironically at that time Douglas Park was THE only Scottish football ground I had been to.

Hamilton Access, Accrington Stanley, Hull Kingston Rovers and Harlem Globetrotters may be names that sit in people's memory Banks only because of their names.

[jacksy]

6 hours ago, Old Frightful said:

Although it pains me to disagree, there was an article somehow related to RL on Radio 1 years ago, nothing to do with any particular team, and the name they plucked out of the air was Hull Kingston Rovers.

I'm still recovering..

Hull KR have come up on quiz shows too.

[jacksy]

8 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

Sounds like the world must stop at the M62. Obviously the narrator hasnt heard thatAustralia was ‘discovered’ a few years back.

Can't remember many non RL people ever mention Aussie club sides in my vicinity.

That's not to say its never happened.

Just can't point to any occasion. 

[gazza77]

I thought a programme might finally have been made about Fev and the stands from Scarboro for a minute.

[Anita Bath]

5 hours ago, Bearman said:

There is a cachet that some names have.

Whenever I told someone that I knew the names of all the Scottish soccer teams home group they would always test me with Hamilton Academicals?.

Ironically at that time Douglas Park was THE only Scottish football ground I had been to.

Hamilton Access, Accrington Stanley, Hull Kingston Rovers and Harlem Globetrotters may be names that sit in people's memory Banks only because of their names.

Third Lanark anyone?

[Anita Bath]

7 hours ago, Spidey said:

If you want to count regional comps like BRL why not add in 18 Lancashire League titles for Wigan?

Now you are showing your ignorance of rugby league outside the M62 corridor (and Australian geography)

Elite level RL in Australia was organised in State Competitions during the part time era because of among other things distances. Brisbane to Sydney for example is about 1000kms (what’s that, similar to the distance between Wigan pier and the kremlin).

 

Let’s remember Great Britain regularly got thrashed by Australian teams consisting of players playing in what you call regional leagues (Lewis, Meninga, Miles……)

You are also showing your ignorance of RFL history in UK.

the Lancashire league, and it’s Yorkshire equivalent) we’re not based on separate games. They were tables based on games in the regular rugby league competition played between Lancashire teams ( and for the purposes of completeness, games between Lancashire and Cumberland teams were included in the Lancashire league table). A nice way of increasing the size of an honours board….count the same games twice!

The BRL had separate reserve and junior competition so if you want to include those bring it on.

Also rugby league didn’t start in Australia until 1908, 13 years after the breakaway in the north of England.

The point of all this- if you want to make some subjective assessment of world most successful team it’s helpful to specify the criteria used for most successful (and for that matter, world)

 

 

 

 

[gingerjon]

6 hours ago, Bearman said:

There is a cachet that some names have.

Whenever I told someone that I knew the names of all the Scottish soccer teams home group they would always test me with Hamilton Academicals?.

Ironically at that time Douglas Park was THE only Scottish football ground I had been to.

Hamilton Access, Accrington Stanley, Hull Kingston Rovers and Harlem Globetrotters may be names that sit in people's memory Banks only because of their names.

There is no team in any sport called Hamilton Academicals.

You might as well believe that East Fife Four Forfar Five is possible.