Live after death Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/apr/18/theres-help-in-place-does-rugby-league-have-a-drugs-problem?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab player I’ve hardly heard of claiming drugs is the norm. Guardian trying to stick the boot in after positives from over 600 tests. Union has 18, 3 times as many so why not start the article with “has union got a drugs problem “ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Shepherd Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 34 minutes ago, Live after death said: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/apr/18/theres-help-in-place-does-rugby-league-have-a-drugs-problem?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab player I’ve hardly heard of claiming drugs is the norm. Guardian trying to stick the boot in after positives from over 600 tests. Union has 18, 3 times as many so why not start the article with “has union got a drugs problem “ Does anyone still read The Guardian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, David Shepherd said: Does anyone still read The Guardian? Aye... me! I can give it up. The indie isn't bad... but im now used to guardoshite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, David Shepherd said: Does anyone still read The Guardian? I saw it as a link from another story. They did however have a cracking gig review of the band Ghost at Manchester arena though, which I didn’t think would be their demographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Live after death said: I saw it as a link from another story. They did however have a cracking gig review of the band Ghost at Manchester arena though, which I didn’t think would be their demographic. You hardly know of Jamie Acton? he had many exclusives on this site not all for the right reasons though. Secondly, who the fish are Ghost, let me guess it is another of those groups who play music specifically for "the hard of thinking" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live after death Posted April 18, 2022 Author Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said: You hardly know of Jamie Acton? he had many exclusives on this site not all for the right reasons though. Secondly, who the fish are Ghost, let me guess it is another of those groups who play music specifically for "the hard of thinking" Along the lines of a Modern Day Alice Cooper, Kiss type theatrical hardrock/Metal band, and become quite massive internationally last 4-5 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Live after death said: Along the lines of a Modern Day Alice Cooper, Kiss type theatrical hardrock/Metal band, and become quite massive internationally last 4-5 years Yep, as I thought not musical at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsontown Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, David Shepherd said: Does anyone still read The Guardian? I do, but I don't read it for the RL coverage that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whippet13 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 I'm shocked the guardian didn't save this absurd article for publishing on the day of the Challenge Cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: I'm shocked the guardian didn't save this absurd article for publishing on the day of the Challenge Cup final. That kind of "journalism" gets you a job commentating on Our League! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 7 hours ago, Live after death said: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/apr/18/theres-help-in-place-does-rugby-league-have-a-drugs-problem?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab player I’ve hardly heard of claiming drugs is the norm. Guardian trying to stick the boot in after positives from over 600 tests. Union has 18, 3 times as many so why not start the article with “has union got a drugs problem “ Jamie Acton spent the majority of his career at Leigh (2014-2018) you’ve got to think this is the club he’s referring to, he can’t comment on what goes on at clubs he’s never played at, how would he know? I have to say I value and believe Kevin Brown far more than Jamie Acton “I’m absolutely sure there is the odd person risking their career and doing it because they feel a lack of confidence or they’re not where they want to be physically,” the former England international Kevin Brown says. “But as far as it being widespread, having played in Super League for so long, I’d say that’s not true. We get tested so much, you’d have to spend so much on drugs that escape the system. I’ve played at a lot of clubs. I’ve not seen it. I would have heard a lot more about it.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 The Guardian's targeted readership is educated left wingers, not blue collar workers, hence why it prefers Union over Rugby League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandOffHalf Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Disgusting propaganda. Acton surely must realise on some level that he's being played and used. Even the image they use of him with what looks like two black eyes is surely selected to project an image of thuggish, yobbish violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnyia Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 The same type of article appeared here in France a couple of days ago in the equipe magazine, does rugby have a cocaine problem, big photo of James Maloney half a page and not a word about the union players that have tested positive, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 11 hours ago, The Future is League said: The Guardian's targeted readership is educated left wingers, not blue collar workers, hence why it prefers Union over Rugby League So what was the Sun's excuse when they ran the same story three months ago? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Not sure why anyone cares what Jamie Acton says anyway. Proof that The Verve were on the right lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 You've got to laugh he say's he had taken drugs throughout his career. ALL I can say jamie lad you got ripped off they did nowt for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kevin Sinfield Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, POR said: You've got to laugh he say's he had taken drugs throughout his career. ALL I can say jamie lad you got ripped off they did nowt for you Imagine how bad he’d of been without performance enhancing drugs, league one at best. Some athletes clearly get away with it long term (Lance Armstrong for example) but they’re playing Russian roulette on getting caught. I’d be interested to know how many times a player is typically tested throughout their career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Chopra Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 12 hours ago, The Future is League said: The Guardian's targeted readership is educated left wingers, not blue collar workers, hence why it prefers Union over Rugby League Nowt to do with the left wing bit, just the educated. For all its faults, the Guardian still carries more league coverage than the Telegraph or the Times these days, substantially more when you include NRL stories from its Australian site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 This is just a rehash of the Sun story from 3 months ago. There's nothing new here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 21 hours ago, David Shepherd said: Does anyone still read The Guardian? It really is the pits these days Any semblance of balanced journalism went long ago. The article about David Cameron's 'priviliged pain' over his young son's death was the moment I refused to ever engage with it again It is the left wing equivalent of the Mail, -bias and one eyed provocative horse s*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinking Jimmy Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 21 hours ago, David Shepherd said: Does anyone still read The Guardian? Does anyone still listen to what Jamie Acton has to say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Bower and Acton still beating this drum in a desperate attempt at some form of relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RP London Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: It really is the pits these days Any semblance of balanced journalism went long ago. The article about David Cameron's 'priviliged pain' over his young son's death was the moment I refused to ever engage with it again It is the left wing equivalent of the Mail, -bias and one eyed provocative horse s*** Sorry couldnt quite work out the answer to the question... do you still read it then or not? 2 hours ago, Sir Kevin Sinfield said: Imagine how bad he’d of been without performance enhancing drugs, league one at best. Some athletes clearly get away with it long term (Lance Armstrong for example) but they’re playing Russian roulette on getting caught. I’d be interested to know how many times a player is typically tested throughout their career. Its the typical "everyone is on it" line that makes these people sleep ok at night.. its utter tosh. the vast majority do not take it, some do and go "ok" but most dont.. the fact you are only "ok" and are taking it should tell you everything you need to know, especially in a sport where skill level is needed (something the drugs wont give you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toby Chopra Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 On the substance (geddit) of the article, I thought once you got past the clickbait headline and lead, it was a well reported piece that left you with a pretty clear answer that no, rugby league doesn't have a worse performance enhancing drugs problem than any other sport. Testing works. But recreational drugs are potentially as present as in wider society, and for a sport that's still quite close to its roots that's something to keep an eye on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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