Szymala Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 11 hours ago, The Rocket said: His uncle was one of the finest Rugby League brains the game has ever produced. For many years he was the guest expert on ABC radio`s Saturday (10hrs) and Sunday (6hrs) every week of the season - which I rarely ever missed, a man of profound insight and knowledge of the game and I`ll guarantee still a keen student of Rugby League. If the young Leeds coach does not have long conversations, even if only by phone, about current trends and tactics in the game, I`d be very surprised. Do you mean his dad (Brian) not his uncle (Tony) ? He will also have learned a great deal from Brian's former St George/Parramatta assistant, 'Rocket' Rod Reddy. You'll know him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Szymala said: Do you mean his dad (Brian) not his uncle (Tony) ? He will also have learned a great deal from Brian's former St George/Parramatta assistant, 'Rocket' Rod Reddy. You'll know him. Thanks mate, you know I thought I`d read Brian was his Dad, but I read a post by someone talking about him bringing in his uncle, so I assumed Brian must have been his uncle. Even better for him though I suppose. I got so caught up in St. George`s march to the finals under Smith in the early 90`s, it had been a while, that I went to one of their open training sessions during GF week, Smithy saw me standing on my own watching from the boundary and sent an assistant over and asked me if I was a spy from the Broncos, I said you`re kidding mate, I must have sounded sincere, because he said no worries mate and let me stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latchford albion Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 What's his brother Keegan doing at the moment? He has a great reputation in strength and conditioning. "I'm a traditionalist and I don"t think you'd ever see me coaching an Australian national side!" Lee Radford, RLW March 2016 Proud to be a member of the TRL woke claque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 45 minutes ago, latchford albion said: What's his brother Keegan doing at the moment? He has a great reputation in strength and conditioning. He seems to do a lot of private work now travelling the world and living the dream. I see a lot of his stuff on social media and its interesting to see his philosophy on life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, latchford albion said: What's his brother Keegan doing at the moment? green cross code adverts? 1 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szymala Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 20 hours ago, The Rocket said: Thanks mate, you know I thought I`d read Brian was his Dad, but I read a post by someone talking about him bringing in his uncle, so I assumed Brian must have been his uncle. Even better for him though I suppose. I got so caught up in St. George`s march to the finals under Smith in the early 90`s, it had been a while, that I went to one of their open training sessions during GF week, Smithy saw me standing on my own watching from the boundary and sent an assistant over and asked me if I was a spy from the Broncos, I said you`re kidding mate, I must have sounded sincere, because he said no worries mate and let me stay. Sounds just like Brian, a very intense man but a brilliant coaching mind. I always liked him. Pilloried for no grand final win but it was no disgrace to lose twice to THAT Brisbane team. And with Parra' he was simply undone by a genial performance from Andrew Johns after the Eels had been far and away the best team in 2001 - shades of Cas' in 2017. Coaching over 600 ARL/NRL games (plus many more with Hull, Bulls and Wakefield) is no mean feat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/fascinating-see-another-smith-take-26778402 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 On 20/04/2022 at 14:50, Tommygilf said: Don't worry, you can get the home shirt for £30 using the code "Welcome"! It could work excellently. Just needs to get us scoring tries as a priority. I’m very pleased with the appointment, particularly given some of the other names linked such as Maguire. Smith is very highly thought of, has done a good apprentice under a number of head coaches and has a successful track record as a head coach. Crucially his vision and approach aligns so it should be a good culture fit. I hope Sean Long heads for the exit. Our attack has been toothless for a while, so I have no idea what purpose he is serving 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Bath Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 21/04/2022 at 19:57, Hull Kingston Bronco said: You’re ignoring the impact of the NRLs version of dual reg. I’ll say it again, I think Redcliffe Dolphins would beat Wakefield Trinity 9 times out of 10, just by way of one random match-up. The participation pool in Australia is multiple times larger than ours, it follows naturally that their fringe players will be better than our average. There’s just not enough room for them all in the NRL, how much they get paid in a comp with lower revenues isn’t a measure of their relative value or ability as players to ours. Dophins flogged again this weekend, next to bottom, my money would be on Wakefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hull Kingston Bronco Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Anita Bath said: Dophins flogged again this weekend, next to bottom, my money would be on Wakefield. Guess you didn’t see Wakefield against us at the weekend then Apparently this site says I "won the day" here on 23rd Jan, 19th Jan, 9th Jan also 13th December, whatever any of that means. Anyway, 4 times in a few weeks? The forum must be going to the dogs - you people need to seriously up your game. Where's Dutoni when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Riversider Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 Is Longy to be retained by the new Leeds Head coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Wigan Riversider said: Is Longy to be retained by the new Leeds Head coach? Officially yes the support staff are all remaining in place. I'm sure Smith will be able to make changes in the close season if he wants though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) The Eagle has landed. Famously amongst the first things Howard Wilkinson did when landing at Elland Road in 1988 was to take down all the old photographs of the 1960s/70s Leeds United team as he thought the club was obsessively living in the past in a way which wasn't healthy. At Headingley and at Kirkstall they've build the past literally into the walls of the place - the players can't turn a corner without seeing some ghostly figure brandishing a trophy or a list of great past players. I wonder if Smith might just want to turn the players' focus away from all that sort of stuff. Edited May 3, 2022 by M j M 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 On 26/04/2022 at 21:43, Wigan Riversider said: Is Longy to be retained by the new Leeds Head coach? Has Longy ever had any sort of success as an attack coach as I'm struggling to think where he has? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wigan Riversider Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, The Future is League said: Has Longy ever had any sort of success as an attack coach as I'm struggling to think where he has? He has a huge CV in terms of coaching roles however we are on the same page regarding success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szymala Posted May 3, 2022 Share Posted May 3, 2022 2 hours ago, M j M said: The Eagle has landed. At Headingley and at Kirkstall they've build the past literally into the walls of the place - the players can't turn a corner without seeing some ghostly figure brandishing a trophy or a list of great past players. I wonder if Smith might just want to turn the players' focus away from all that sort of stuff. Like winning things ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Szymala said: Like winning things ? The legacy can weigh heavy like an albatross if not done right. The current team needs to forge its new legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleD Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 8 hours ago, Tommygilf said: The legacy can weigh heavy like an albatross if not done right. The current team needs to forge its new legacy. If the players aren't mentally strong enough to overcome that, then they won't be mentally strong enough to win a trophy anyway. It's all a mindset thing, those images should be inspirational, not a burden. That group requires leadership more than anything 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 So 16 months in I'd be interested in people's thoughts as to how Smith has done in the last 16 months. As far as I can see, from the outside anyway, Leeds have not progressed one bit and some of their performances, like today, speak for themselves. I was always quite clear that it was a poor appointment. To me Leeds should have been looking to do better than appointing someone who had been coaching in the Queensland Cup for the previous 4 years. I know though that some thought Smith was a great appointment and just what Leeds needed. While there is always an element of fans backing their clubs some fans of other clubs thought the same too. Do Leeds fans still think this, and simply think he should be given more time, or do they now want a change and want Smith gone? Are there green shoots at Headingley that make you think that Smith is putting the correct structures and processes in place for long term success? Or is it a Daryl Powell type situation and he has made things worse and Leeds just need to start again? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Damien said: So 16 months in I'd be interested in people's thoughts as to how Smith has done in the last 16 months. As far as I can see, from the outside anyway, Leeds have not progressed one bit and some of their performances, like today, speak for themselves. I was always quite clear that it was a poor appointment. To me Leeds should have been looking to do better than appointing someone who had been coaching in the Queensland Cup for the previous 4 years. I know though that some thought Smith was a great appointment and just what Leeds needed. While there is always an element of fans backing their clubs some fans of other clubs thought the same too. Do Leeds fans still think this, and simply think he should be given more time, or do they now want a change and want Smith gone? Are there green shoots at Headingley that make you think that Smith is putting the correct structures and processes in place for long term success? Or is it a Daryl Powell type situation and he has made things worse and Leeds just need to start again? The Squad is and has been a mess since 2017. Its easy to take this loss in isolation without looking at the big picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 We've definitely gone backwards this season, mostly because of poor management and I can't see too far beyond the coach for that frankly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted September 9, 2023 Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: The Squad is and has been a mess since 2017. Its easy to take this loss in isolation without looking at the big picture Both comments are correct but can you or anyone else tell me what exactly Smith is trying to achieve? He said something about versatility pre season hence playing players out of position which he has continued to do so but that’s it. Leeds have gone backwards since Agar left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: The Squad is and has been a mess since 2017. Its easy to take this loss in isolation without looking at the big picture But the big picture isn't good. This is one of many poor performances this season and Leeds are sat in 8th and need a miracle just to make the play offs. What is the bigger picture that is being missed if you take away the bare facts? That is what I was alluding to, are there green shoots and improvements that are not evident yet? Edited September 9, 2023 by Damien 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Damien said: But the big picture isn't good. This is one of many poor performances this season and Leeds are sat in 8th and need a miracle just to make the play offs. What is the bigger picture that is being missed if you take away the bare facts? That is what I was alluding to, are there green shoots and improvements that are not evident yet? The bigger picture is getting the right players in and bringing through the kids. The academy has also been neglected since McDermott was there and afterwards aswell. Weve had poor performances but weve also only been hammered twice, weve also had 3 senior players leave as I say next year is smiths big test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 A genuine quote in the post match "we did a lot of decent things today, we actually defended Field and French really well". I'm sorry but the coach is delusional and out of his depth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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