LeeF Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 One of the conditions when Wigan signed Hardaker was for him to live over there away from his local “influences”. A plan that seemed to work well initially. He then moved “back home” and the “low level misdemeanours” seem to have recommenced including missing training due to being out the night before with his mates. I'm not surprised Wigan have said “enough is enough” but bearing in mind Leeds are one of the clubs he has previously burnt I’m struggling to understand why Leeds want him especially as they are trying to reset their culture etc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, LeeF said: One of the conditions when Wigan signed Hardaker was for him to live over there away from his local “influences”. A plan that seemed to work well initially. He then moved “back home” and the “low level misdemeanours” seem to have recommenced including missing training due to being out the night before with his mates. I’ll give him his due , he never did that at Penrith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Evans Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, LeeF said: I’m struggling to understand why Leeds want him especially as they are trying to reset their culture etc Desperation? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 On 22/04/2022 at 17:54, Tommygilf said: Might be his missus, being away from support networks with babies must be difficult Yes, far be it from me to defend Hardaker, but I think people are very unfair with those kinds of comments. These are young lads on relatively modest amounts of money who often have families and young kids. Those sacrifices and logistics can be a bit easier to overcome if you are getting paid millions and millions. Players make many sacrifices, work unsocial hours, knacker their bodies and often do it for not great money. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dave T said: Yes, far be it from me to defend Hardaker, but I think people are very unfair with those kinds of comments. These are young lads on relatively modest amounts of money who often have families and young kids. Those sacrifices and logistics can be a bit easier to overcome if you are getting paid millions and millions. Players make many sacrifices, work unsocial hours, knacker their bodies and often do it for not great money. I’m not criticising the move back home for family support but that doesn’t explain him going out with his mates after a game and then missing training or, if correct, the constant disrespecting of his coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 players come and go for all sorts of reasons -and contracts are a joke- how long till a thread about jai field leaving for a big money contract back in the nrl? not long i suspect see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Robin Evans said: Desperation? Very but surely there are other options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, DavidM said: I’ll give him his due , he never did that at Penrith He hasn’t been on loan at Town yet though has he David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, LeeF said: I’m not criticising the move back home for family support but that doesn’t explain him going out with his mates after a game and then missing training or, if correct, the constant disrespecting of his coach Indeed, hence my first point about not defending Hardaker, it was more of a general point around travel for work. When I first moved to Edinburgh on my own I found it very lonely and challenging for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dave T said: Yes, far be it from me to defend Hardaker, but I think people are very unfair with those kinds of comments. These are young lads on relatively modest amounts of money who often have families and young kids. Those sacrifices and logistics can be a bit easier to overcome if you are getting paid millions and millions. Players make many sacrifices, work unsocial hours, knacker their bodies and often do it for not great money. Two things are true (IMO): - Hardaker is a complete tool - Rugby league players, including Hardaker, deserve a lot more money and support 3 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeF Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, Dave T said: Indeed, hence my first point about not defending Hardaker, it was more of a general point around travel for work. When I first moved to Edinburgh on my own I found it very lonely and challenging for a long time. I’ve done my fair bit of travelling for work and the fun soon disappears especially with a young family 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 minute ago, LeeF said: I’ve done my fair bit of travelling for work and the fun soon disappears especially with a young family you should have left them at home 9 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, LeeF said: ” but bearing in mind Leeds are one of the clubs he has previously burnt I’m struggling to understand why Leeds want him especially as they are trying to reset their culture etc Because I think they are down to 16 to choose from their squad of 32....including two seventeen year olds Mad times call for unconventional measures and I think Rhinos need him...even if Sutty was fit he's still no match for Zak and Newman isn't back for ages Short term contract til season end then decide what happens after based on how well he plays and the 'other stuff' situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, LeeF said: Very but surely there are other options Not sure there is any....I assume Rhinos up to the cap on all measures for any more Aussies.....maybe raiding the under 16s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RigbyLuger Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Two things are true (IMO): - Hardaker is a complete tool - Rugby league players, including Hardaker, deserve a lot more money and support Are RL Cares or State of Mind there to help him/others? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, RigbyLuger said: Are RL Cares or State of Mind there to help him/others? I honestly don't know but if it's like any other mental health provision in this country - and I don't want to get political so I'll be as superficial as possible - then it will be focused on talking therapy above all else and, more fundamentally, massively stretched, so it may not either work or be there even if those delivering it want it to be. 2 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, LeeF said: He hasn’t been on loan at Town yet though has he David? Would he fit in with Chris’s nodickhead policy ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Dave T said: Yes, far be it from me to defend Hardaker, but I think people are very unfair with those kinds of comments. These are young lads on relatively modest amounts of money who often have families and young kids. Those sacrifices and logistics can be a bit easier to overcome if you are getting paid millions and millions. Players make many sacrifices, work unsocial hours, knacker their bodies and often do it for not great money. Absolutely. In fairness the Hardaker now isn't the Hardaker that left Leeds and Cas IMO and the family stuff will be more important. As you say, millions of £s can be a helpful tonic to being away from family support networks or indeed can bring them over or buy them in. No RL player is on that sort of money, and I suspect Hardaker will need that support more than most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 The deed is done. HARDAKER RE-JOINS RHINOS FOR 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, M j M said: The deed is done. HARDAKER RE-JOINS RHINOS FOR 2022 Countdown to Wigan making an accusation of tapping up ... 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 1 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Browny Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Countdown to Wigan making an accusation of tapping up ... 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... They usually insinuate some legal action will be coming before quietly dropping it. I can confirm 30+ less sales for Scotland vs Italy at Workington, after this afternoons test purchase for the Tonga match, £7.50 is extremely reasonable, however a £2.50 'delivery' fee for a walk in purchase is beyond taking the mickey, good luck with that, it's cheaper on the telly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fieldofclothofgold Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Countdown to Wigan making an accusation of tapping up ... 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... Oh dear Soon we will be dancing the fandangoFROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB HAS DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESSTHEN i DONT KNOW WHAT IS.JAMIE PEACOCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Countdown to Wigan making an accusation of tapping up ... 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It is as clear as day that this was engineered. I don’t know how angry Wigan should be about it, as it looked like he was desperate to go, and we couldn’t rely on him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Prendle Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 50 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck. It is as clear as day that this was engineered. I don’t know how angry Wigan should be about it, as it looked like he was desperate to go, and we couldn’t rely on him anyway. We shouldn't be angry about it at all. Wigan gave him the chance to get back in the game, gave him a huge amount of support and he messed it up again. If Wigan are, as they claim, serious about creating a new culture at the club, then the likes of Zak are not going to help that. He had his chance, he didn't take it, good luck to him, and the clubs that take him, for the rest of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted April 26, 2022 Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Just Browny said: They usually insinuate some legal action will be coming before quietly dropping it. Indeed. There's a well documented and highly publicised long list of such actions. ...somewhere .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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