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Sat 7th-Sun 8th May: The Betfred League One Match Thread


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47 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Announcing on the day is very poor. Not like the Semi Finals were arranged yesterday

no, true.... I defer to my earlier comment about the RFL 😉

cru....Cru.....CRUSADERS!!!!!!

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2 hours ago, iamguyster said:

From what I could gather after speaking to players, is that Keighley also had a couple of dubious tries allowed.🤷

I think ultimately, WWR are trying to improve, Keighley came expecting to get 80+ on the scoreboard and found themselves frustrated that their opposition are actually giving it a go and not rolling over. 👍

 

We’d prefer the rolling over pls 

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4 hours ago, iamguyster said:

From what I could gather after speaking to players, is that Keighley also had a couple of dubious tries allowed.🤷

I think ultimately, WWR are trying to improve, Keighley came expecting to get 80+ on the scoreboard and found themselves frustrated that their opposition are actually giving it a go and not rolling over. 👍

 

From what I can gather,from reading your post,is that you weren't in attendance but have spoken to WWR players.

I didn't notice a scoreboard,while sitting in the main stand,discovered we led 0-2 after scoring a try and missing a conversion,and endured the 3 Stooges ' giving it a go '.

Why would any WWR players suggest Keighley were ' expecting to get 80+ '?

Perhaps they haven't listened to the head coach of Keighley Cougars recently.

Delighted WWR are not rolling over.I don't think anyone has ever,in the past 4/5 years,suggested that they have.

I hope Cornwall have competent officials for next weeks fixture.

 

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1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

######. Just seen cornwall game isnt on because we need to show a blowout between Eagles and Leigh. 

Making a fist of it.

Hunslet winning 22-12 at half time

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1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

######. Just seen cornwall game isnt on because we need to show a blowout between Eagles and Leigh. 

Hopefully the Eagles will take it easy and let Leigh back into the game to make it competitive. 

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1 minute ago, Northern Eel said:

Hopefully the Eagles will take it easy and let Leigh back into the game to make it competitive. 

It's very important in Rugby League that the club who has been around longest wins.

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1 hour ago, Angelic Cynic said:

From what I can gather,from reading your post,is that you weren't in attendance but have spoken to WWR players.

I didn't notice a scoreboard,while sitting in the main stand,discovered we led 0-2 after scoring a try and missing a conversion,and endured the 3 Stooges ' giving it a go '.

Why would any WWR players suggest Keighley were ' expecting to get 80+ '?

Perhaps they haven't listened to the head coach of Keighley Cougars recently.

Delighted WWR are not rolling over.I don't think anyone has ever,in the past 4/5 years,suggested that they have.

I hope Cornwall have competent officials for next weeks fixture.

 

C'mon fella. No need to be salty. Your lads won and WWR looked more competitive. Isn't that what everyone wants from them? It seems like you do.

By the way, I got the impression of the 80+ from every post in this thread; someone even predicted 100. No WWR player suggested that. 

I think there's something to be said for magnanimity in victory, rather than lashing out at the ref and the score board. 🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:

Hopefully the Eagles will take it easy and let Leigh back into the game to make it competitive. 

delighted to be wrong but on other thread.  

A clear division in League 1 between southern and northern teams.  Southern Conference where emerging teams have a better chance probably a long term solution. 

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31 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

delighted to be wrong but on other thread.  

A clear division in League 1 between southern and northern teams.  Southern Conference where emerging teams have a better chance probably a long term solution. 

So Midlands within a try of Cru and Hunslet in the last couple of weeks and level with Rochdale till two thirds of the game...Beating fellow expansion teams at the same level as other  ' established ' clubs.... 

But we don't have a chance??? 

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38 minutes ago, FearNothing said:

Superb day's work from Cru, 46-0 away to Donny....cracking performance 🙂

Yes, thought we'd win but not by that! Eight tries away from home and nilling the opposition is a good day's work in anyone's book. Oldham at Zipworld next Saturday then two weeks off with the bye and Cup Final before the big one against Keighley.

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44 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said:

delighted to be wrong but on other thread.  

A clear division in League 1 between southern and northern teams.  Southern Conference where emerging teams have a better chance probably a long term solution. 

A southern conference Is an end in itself. It won’t help clubs become competitive which is what we need, in the absence of someone investing a ton of money in RL down south (wasn’t that a name of a podcast a few years back when we thought it was all going to be a lot brighter?)  

 

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11 minutes ago, Rach said:

So Midlands within a try of Cru and Hunslet in the last couple of weeks and level with Rochdale till two thirds of the game...Beating fellow expansion teams at the same level as other  ' established ' clubs.... 

But we don't have a chance??? 

Midlands have been our - crusaders -  hardest game so far this season. They’re a tough organised side.

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23 minutes ago, Rach said:

So Midlands within a try of Cru and Hunslet in the last couple of weeks and level with Rochdale till two thirds of the game...Beating fellow expansion teams at the same level as other  ' established ' clubs.... 

But we don't have a chance??? 

How do you know he wasn't including Midlands in the proposed Northern Conference?

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17 minutes ago, Rach said:

So Midlands within a try of Cru and Hunslet in the last couple of weeks and level with Rochdale till two thirds of the game...Beating fellow expansion teams at the same level as other  ' established ' clubs.... 

But we don't have a chance??? 

You seemed to have assumed better chance means no chance. Midlands have two wins this season, both vs southern teams.  Close against NWC but you lost by 20 to Hornets, swept by Swinton, 28 to doncaster. 

2017 bottom six were all southern teams, 3 sadly no longer playing at that level.  2018 Bears finished above only other southern teams. 2019 only points deduction meant southern team came above cougars.  2021 all southern teams at bottom.  This season nearly half way through looking like the same.  

Now if someone is coming into these regions with intention to go through the leagues fine but if aim is to start getting more players from these southern regions in the game I dont see how getting pumped and finishing 8th at best does that. 

If a restructure is on the way whether it be two 14's or 2 10's liklihood is that this is something we should think about as part of a 3rd tier with northern conference,same as level 6 in football.

Could have an engaging league of 8 10 teams. 

  

 

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11 minutes ago, paulwalker71 said:

How do you know he wasn't including Midlands in the proposed Northern Conference?

Geography wise being in Brum you probably do stick them in the north.  Would be a tough gig mind. 

 

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25 minutes ago, EssexRL said:

A southern conference Is an end in itself. It won’t help clubs become competitive which is what we need, in the absence of someone investing a ton of money in RL down south (wasn’t that a name of a podcast a few years back when we thought it was all going to be a lot brighter?)  

 

I think that currently none of the southern clubs  (bar Midlands If they get to generate rev from new ground) have the infrastructure or resources to be seriously competing at higher levels of game.  

So much better to have a competitive southern conference using local players and club that wins league with right infrastructure can step up If they want. 

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1 hour ago, ShropshireBull said:

Now if someone is coming into these regions with intention to go through the leagues fine but if aim is to start getting more players from these southern regions in the game I dont see how getting pumped and finishing 8th at best does that. 

It's the eternal conundrum - go with more 'local' players and risk getting pumped (which seems to be what WWR and Skolars are having to do), or go with a team made up predominantly of northerners in order to be competitive at the expense of developing local talent (which seems to be what Midlands are doing). Cornwall started the season trumpeting that they were going to do the former and play loads of Cornish players, but as the weeks have gone on, they have pulled in more and more loan players in order to become more competitive, so may now be opting for the latter strategy. Neil Kelly's comments last week about the local players would seem to suggest that he thinks a lot of them aren't really up to it. I don't believe either strategy is likely to be effective at developing the game in those areas. IMO what is needed is a vibrant grass roots game in those areas with multiple community clubs underpinning the pro team and guaranteeing a stream of players. A pro club should be the icing on the cake but, in the cases of these League 1 clubs, the lack of a healthy community competition means there isn't really a cake to ice.

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