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Boom Bang A Bang! It's Eurovision week.

Anyone apart from me willing to admit they'll be watching?

Without wanting to get anyone's hopes up, the UK appears to be making a modicum of effort not to come last this year.

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John Drake
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Bit late to post a reaction... it's taken me that long to recover from hearing 'Royaume Uni, douze point' for the first time in what seems a lifetime. A vodka shot after every one, I was nearly under

The Hallucinating Goose
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Well we were never gonna beat a country that has been illegally invaded and ravaged by war. Congratulations to Ukraine! 

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I won't be watching John but I didn't want you to get lonely on this thread.

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59 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Boom Bang A Bang! It's Eurovision week.

Anyone apart from me willing to admit they'll be watching?

Without wanting to get anyone's hopes up, the UK appears to be making a modicum of effort not to come last this year.

Deliberately not watching the semi finals this year as I want to properly enjoy the final without knowing what's coming.

A couple of people whose opinions I trust - i.e. they're not the kind that think that Eurovision is lost by us because of nasty politics nor do they think that Eurovision is simply some bizarre camp idea they have in their heads - seem to think the UK song and act are going down well in Europe.

But, I presume, Ukraine will win by a country mile, regardless?

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5 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

But, I presume, Ukraine will win by a country mile, regardless?

You'd expect so wouldn't you?

I've no idea what their entry is like but if it's not 'My lovely horse' then I'd be surprised if they don't walk it.

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Just now, Shadow said:

You'd expect so wouldn't you?

I've no idea what their entry is like but if it's not 'My lovely horse' then I'd be surprised if they don't walk it.

To be fair, it must surely be time for 'My Lovely Horse' to take the prize for real.

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I watched the first semi-final. Ukraine's entry isn't particularly brilliant, and I don't think it would be anywhere near the top of the favourites list if it wasn't for  events back home.

But with the viewer votes so often overturning the jury votes under the new system, they'll either win or come damn close.

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1 hour ago, Futtocks said:

I watched the first semi-final. Ukraine's entry isn't particularly brilliant, and I don't think it would be anywhere near the top of the favourites list if it wasn't for  events back home.

But with the viewer votes so often overturning the jury votes under the new system, they'll either win or come damn close.

at 4/6 favourites are u willing to lend the bookies 60 quid to make 40?  seems like one of the biggest betting certs of all time

see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile 

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I always wondered where they got the viewers for Gogglebox from so thanks for clearing that one up for me everyone.

 

2 warning points:kolobok_dirol:  Non-Political

 

 

 

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15 hours ago, Futtocks said:

I watched the first semi-final. Ukraine's entry isn't particularly brilliant, and I don't think it would be anywhere near the top of the favourites list if it wasn't for  events back home.

But with the viewer votes so often overturning the jury votes under the new system, they'll either win or come damn close.

Just been doing my morning "learning German by listening to NDR Kultur" and their take on Eurovision is that the UK has one of the standout songs but that the Ukraine song will be the winner because, as said, it's basically good enough and people will vote with their emotions for it.

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1 hour ago, JohnM said:

If Ukraine were to win, whar more ore evidence is needed that  ESC voting is political, not qualitative. 

It's proof it's emotional, not political.

 

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 It is evidence that it is not qualitative. Emotional in this case, I agree, but that adds to the argument that the pantomime is just that, but not only that. Next year, we're going to enter under Millwall's banner. 😀

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50 minutes ago, JohnM said:

 It is evidence that it is not qualitative. Emotional in this case, I agree, but that adds to the argument that the pantomime is just that, but not only that. Next year, we're going to enter under Millwall's banner. 😀

How do you qualitatively judge one song against another song?

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1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

How do you qualitatively judge one song against another song?

Whilst maintaining a stance of not caring about the competition at the same time caring that the nasty forrins must all be ganging up on the plucky Brits. 

Next year we should get Schrodinger and the Pussy Cats to represent us.

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It was originally supposed to be exactly what the name meant - a song contest.

Not a contest of performance, or personality, or flashy staging.

But they did want people to actually watch the thing, so they made it enjoyable.

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42 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

It was originally supposed to be exactly what the name meant - a song contest.

Not a contest of performance, or personality, or flashy staging.

But they did want people to actually watch the thing, so they made it enjoyable.

Radio 3, for reasons too complicated to go into, played the 1964 (or 5) Swedish entry this morning.

It was, and I think we can say this for it at least, a song.

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Actually 1965 and this

 

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Some songs are objectively weak or poorly performed - we've managed both in our Euro entries over the last 25 years.

Otherwise any art forms are judgements based on personal taste, prejudices, politiocs etc. etc.

I don't like any awards or competitions for art if I'm honest. It's like deciding which team wins in Sport by best style of play, nicest kit, biggest away following or which county (cermonial or otherwise) they are from.

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1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Great day of TV tomorrow! 8 hours of the North-West 200 followed by Eurovision. Fantastic! 😁👍

I might squeeze in a little NRL Magic Weekend action too, especially Penrith v Melbourne.

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Ralph Waldo Emerson

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