Sat 9th Jul: SL-MW: St Helens v Wigan Warriors KO 16:45 (Sky)

[Just Browny]

I know this is blasphemy but Welsby has come up with a lot of poor options this half.

[Roy Haggerty]

Saints’ attack looking dreadful. This is Wigan’s game I think. 

[Davo5]

3 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

I know this is blasphemy but Welsby has come up with a lot of poor options this half.

He’s a great player but he’s not an international level halfback at this stage of his career 

[Barry Badrinath]

Does bateman not put him onside there?

[andyscoot]

Just now, Barry Badrinath said:

Does bateman not put him onside there?

Unless the rule has changed?

[bobbruce]

31 minutes ago, andyscoot said:

Don't see that card very often

Certainly not when the teams in possession. 

[Barry Badrinath]

Just now, andyscoot said:

Unless the rule has changed?

Also there was no one attempting to catch/receive the ball, as you heard the VR asking for that.

 

Weird one.

[Roy Haggerty]

2 minutes ago, andyscoot said:

Unless the rule has changed?

He doesn’t, because at the moment he kicks it, there’s a saints player within 10 metres in a position to receive the ball, so there’s no opportunity to play Powell back inside, as the offence is immediate on the kick. 
 

if he’d kicked it 5m further back, or the saints defenders had been 5m further towards their own line, there’d have been time/space to play him onside. 

Edited July 9, 2022 by Roy Haggerty

[EastLondonMike]

2 minutes ago, andyscoot said:

Unless the rule has changed?

I think it has. Don’t think you can be played onside now.

Edited July 9, 2022 by EastLondonMike

[bobbruce]

9 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

I know this is blasphemy but Welsby has come up with a lot of poor options this half.

Which is exactly why he isn’t ready to be an international halfback. He has great moments but is still learning his trade and makes a lot of poor choices still. 

[Roy Haggerty]

Although tbh the ‘playing onside’ rule is heading in the direction of scrum rules and playing the ball with the foot: it’s still in the book, but rarely allowed. 

[Loiner]

35 minutes ago, dkw said:

Who had 11th minute on the sweepstake?

But it's true.

[verbatim]

Should it not have been a penalty to Wigan for offside. The Saints player challenging for the ball with Cust touches it, then there's another Saints player in front of him as Bateman kicks it?

[Loiner]

13 minutes ago, Just Browny said:

I know this is blasphemy but Welsby has come up with a lot of poor options this half.

You can say that about the worlds greatest player.

[sweaty craiq]

17 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

First bit of good play from Wigan & French goes over.

Looking forward to French at LSV next year

[bobbruce]

4 minutes ago, Barry Badrinath said:

Also there was no one attempting to catch/receive the ball, as you heard the VR asking for that.

 

Weird one.

They’ve Ruled there was penalty given for being within ten. 

[Scubby]

8 minutes ago, Davo5 said:

He’s a great player but he’s not an international level halfback at this stage of his career 

Exactly, we are going to get a lot of hot and cold from him in the halves. You have to learn to play there - particularly with options and kicking game.

I would get him in the centres for England. He can play anywhere but better out of the spine in the WC.

[bobbruce]

2 minutes ago, verbatim said:

Should it not have been a penalty to Wigan for offside. The Saints player challenging for the ball with Cust touches it, then there's another Saints player in front of him as Bateman kicks it?

No as the ball was judged to go backwards off Batchaler

[Josef K]

Blimey Saints are dreadful, two pointless kicks early into the tackle count in the first twenty mins and Roby has an obsession with doing a little grubber near the opponents line which hardly ever pays off. It’s not been a classic, and i do wonder if Woolf is watching the same match as myself. Hurrell has got hands like “Roy Munson - King Pin”. We need a rocket up our backsides because we have hardly caused Wigan any bother. 

[Harry Stottle]

I was looking forward to second half, then I heard Bill and Tez.

[DavidM]

11 minutes ago, Scubby said:

Exactly, we are going to get a lot of hot and cold from him in the halves. You have to learn to play there - particularly with options and kicking game.

I would get him in the centres for England. He can play anywhere but better out of the spine in the WC.

Maybe he’s a 14 if he can fill various spots ?

[Cumbrian Fanatic]

Lovely try

[andyscoot]

I'll have that. That was lovely.

[Futtocks]

Eff my old boots, that was a beauty!

[Loiner]

Fantastic try