Dunbar Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Ricky Stuart not holding back calling Jaeman Salmon a weak gutted dog. You don't hear that kind of language often from a coach. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-ricky-stuart-calls-jaeman-salmon-a-weak-gutted-dog-tom-starling-raiders-vs-panthers-round-21/news-story/cd50bbaa94be2551afc4067c04751b94 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Dunbar said: Ricky Stuart not holding back calling Jaeman Salmon a weak gutted dog. You don't hear that kind of language often from a coach. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-2022-ricky-stuart-calls-jaeman-salmon-a-weak-gutted-dog-tom-starling-raiders-vs-panthers-round-21/news-story/cd50bbaa94be2551afc4067c04751b94 Not ever do I remember hearing a coach publicly and personally slate a player like that. it’s very personal for Ricky, as it usually is. He is very much in the wrong for this public execution. I don’t like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) That’s the sort of thought he ought to have kept inside his head rather that say out loud. Salmon deserves to miss at least a couple of games for his nasty play. Stuart should have left it all up to the judiciary to punish him. Edited August 6, 2022 by Graham The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 6, 2022 Author Share Posted August 6, 2022 I have heard coaches criticise players actions plenty of times but to have a go at his character like that is remarkable. He implies he has been associated with him before and drew this opinion. No idea what this is but as a senior figure in the game Stuart should either be crystal clear in what he is saying or shut up. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 It was an ill judged comment to say the least. The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Sticky's fines for losing his rag and speaking thoughtlessly over the years have probably kept the game afloat. 1 Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Stuart has apologised publically, but there are some calls for his head i.e. banning him for the rest of the season, either by his club or by the NRL itself. The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M j M Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Looks like he’ll be fined an will have to miss a couple of games. Salmon by the way escaped a ban for his foul play. Just fined $1,000 So Stuart rightly sanctioned. IMO Salmon should have been banned for kicking out dangerously and paininflictingly. The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Raiders coach Ricky Stuart will reportedly be suspended for one game and slapped with a $20,000 fine The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 That’s a weird expression , never heard that before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Slapped with… I think it’s originally an American saying John. I have heard and used the phrase better than a slap in the face with a wet kipper (or fish) The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 08/08/2022 at 13:02, Graham said: Raiders coach Ricky Stuart will reportedly be suspended for one game and slapped with a $20,000 fine That's a decent chunk of money. Do we know in these circumstances that the payment is strictly policed... i.e. it definitely comes out of Stuart's pocket and not funded by the Raiders. That's not a dig at Stuart, just wondering what the protocol is. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 37 minutes ago, Dunbar said: That's a decent chunk of money. Do we know in these circumstances that the payment is strictly policed... i.e. it definitely comes out of Stuart's pocket and not funded by the Raiders. That's not a dig at Stuart, just wondering what the protocol is. Good question. You’d think fines would come out of the players’ or in this case manager’s own pocket thereby being a deterrent, otherwise what’s the point. Anyone know for a fact? The other question that then occurred to me was where does the money go. I looked around for an answer and found this: “NRL fines traditionally go towards player wellbeing and education-related initiatives, as part of an agreement with the Rugby League Players Association when the monetary sanctions were introduced to the judiciary system.” 1 The Australian Rugby League Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted August 10, 2022 Share Posted August 10, 2022 One match ban and a $25,000 fine https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/stuart-suspended-by-nrl-for-attack-on-panthers-salmon-20220809-p5b8i2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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