RigbyLuger Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 No word as to why, so good luck to them for the rest of League One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anita Bath Posted August 18, 2022 Share Posted August 18, 2022 Didnt he read his contract? The term part time is an abbreviation for Part Time Professional……it was the third word, the one he forgot about, that is relevant here. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 It's a ridiculous response from him. Rather than take responsibility, he's complained there were consequences. Sounds very much like the book of Trump. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Obviously its his responsibility but unless there has been previous then I would imagine that Oldham will end up having to make a payout as if this is the first time then its unlikely they can sack him for gross misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 He’s hardly the first person to have got ###### the night before a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Very harsh imo . Unless he’s got previous could have given him a punishment and a warning and sorted it internally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Streets tache Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Plenty of other higher level semi professionals with children manage not to be hungover. Prob someway to explain how Oldham are rock bottom of all the heartland clubs in all 3 "professional" tiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tim Streets tache said: Plenty of other higher level semi professionals with children manage not to be hungover. Prob someway to explain how Oldham are rock bottom of all the heartland clubs in all 3 "professional" tiers. Did it impact on his performance though? Some of my best ever games were when I was still half cut from the night before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Streets tache Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Eddie said: Did it impact on his performance though? Some of my best ever games were when I was still half cut from the night before. He should play am Ahh right. Well cause YOU played well hungover I reckon Littler should just send them all the pub He should play amateur if he wants the best of both worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tim Streets tache said: Ahh right. Well cause YOU played well hungover I reckon Littler should just send them all the pub He should play amateur if he wants the best of both worlds It seems that Andrade hasn’t been selected since June, he probably wasn’t expecting to play when he had a few drinks at a family celebration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 2 hours ago, DavidM said: Very harsh imo . Unless he’s got previous could have given him a punishment and a warning and sorted it internally As always with these decisions the punishment often depend on the player. If it's a player a club rates the said player they will always have a lot more leeway than someone they don't. Then it becomes a convenient excuse to get rid. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorside roughyed Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 As Anita Bath alluded to it the word "professional" does appear to be relevant. You don't get yourself drunk if you've got work the day after (not normally the best idea in the world). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellsy4HullFC Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Eddie said: It seems that Andrade hasn’t been selected since June, he probably wasn’t expecting to play when he had a few drinks at a family celebration. Terrible excuse. If he's being paid to be on standby, he should be prepared. It's like me going to the pub the night before a day that I could be driving long distance, getting called up and then me saying "sorry, didn't expect it, I've been drinking." Gross misconduct. No excuses. It's not amateur rugby. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Terrible excuse. If he's being paid to be on standby, he should be prepared. It's like me going to the pub the night before a day that I could be driving long distance, getting called up and then me saying "sorry, didn't expect it, I've been drinking." Gross misconduct. No excuses. It's not amateur rugby. In all seriousness, how much is he being paid? £30 a week appearance fee, £20 win bonus? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Wellsy4HullFC said: Terrible excuse. If he's being paid to be on standby, he should be prepared. It's like me going to the pub the night before a day that I could be driving long distance, getting called up and then me saying "sorry, didn't expect it, I've been drinking." Gross misconduct. No excuses. It's not amateur rugby. Now if your job involved you driving for a living then that would be a different matter and you could be sacked for gross misconduct. There is no way on earth that what he has done is a sackable offence unless he has previous which we don't know. Again though we don't know the full story of if he rang in sick, turned up but was intoxicated, or anything else. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Shepherd Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, moorside roughyed said: As Anita Bath alluded to it the word "professional" does appear to be relevant. You don't get yourself drunk if you've got work the day after (not normally the best idea in the world). We've all done it though. The bloke must have other previous disciplinary issues to be sacked on the spot. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 hours ago, moorside roughyed said: As Anita Bath alluded to it the word "professional" does appear to be relevant. You don't get yourself drunk if you've got work the day after (not normally the best idea in the world). Depends how drunk he was, and it’s not like the game (that he wasn’t going to play in) was at 8am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Stottle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Good job this wasn't relevant in the 70's and 80's there would have been 5 a side on some match days, and very high profile player's too, but they still went out and performed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 22 hours ago, Eddie said: It seems that Andrade hasn’t been selected since June, he probably wasn’t expecting to play when he had a few drinks at a family celebration. In my experience, you don't get hung over after "a few drinks" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, JohnM said: In my experience, you don't get hung over after "a few drinks" Sick brag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Tonks Sidestep Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 2 hours ago, The Blues Ox said: Now if your job involved you driving for a living then that would be a different matter and you could be sacked for gross misconduct. There is no way on earth that what he has done is a sackable offence unless he has previous which we don't know. Again though we don't know the full story of if he rang in sick, turned up but was intoxicated, or anything else. No. There are many, many jobs where if you are representing your company and turn up for work drunk or even still smelling of alcohol from the night before where it's quite likely to lead to a charge of gross misconduct and possibly sacking. My previous job didn't involve driving but I, and everyone else who worked there, knew that if we were caught using a mobile while driving we would be immediately dismissed. We also had random alcohol and drug tests which if positive again would lead to instant dismissal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorside roughyed Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 5 hours ago, David Shepherd said: We've all done it though. The bloke must have other previous disciplinary issues to be sacked on the spot. I haven't, I've always wanted to keep my job. Probably my upbringing. Work comes first. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Blues Ox Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Les Tonks Sidestep said: No. There are many, many jobs where if you are representing your company and turn up for work drunk or even still smelling of alcohol from the night before where it's quite likely to lead to a charge of gross misconduct and possibly sacking. My previous job didn't involve driving but I, and everyone else who worked there, knew that if we were caught using a mobile while driving we would be immediately dismissed. We also had random alcohol and drug tests which if positive again would lead to instant dismissal. So those things were in your contract? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, The Blues Ox said: Sick brag. Your defence of this guy reads like you area relative of his. A young fit guy would not have a hangover the following morning after "just a few drinks" In addition, IIRC, I think that serious incapability at work due to alcohol or illegal drug use counts as serious misconduct and is generally a sacking offence. Edited August 20, 2022 by JohnM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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