Les Tonks Sidestep Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, Fevrover said: It was strongly rumoured that Locky was heading for Dewsbury. Finn is reported to have said they've finished recruitment for '23. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeymagic22 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 If Lochy and Pickergill have signed for next season, we now have a squad of 24 players. I'd think we definitely need another half back, plus a winger. What do people think?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haskey Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 WE definitely need a further out and out scrum half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft old hooker Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Monkeymagic22 said: If Lochy and Pickergill have signed for next season, we now have a squad of 24 players. I'd think we definitely need another half back, plus a winger. What do people think?. Definitely and a big nasty prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, haskey said: WE definitely need a further out and out scrum half. I'm not going to say we don't, but given Ford & a highly rated Lacans, plus Wildie for cover, we're in a pretty good place at the moment. A "big name" won't necessarily provide us with anything better, though the fact we were talking to Kyle Laybut would indicate we're still looking. Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 If Pickers and Locky make up the 24 man squad, then fair enough. We know what we'll get from those two dependable players. If we are being harsh, we'd say Pickers is 3rd choice FB and Locky is past his prime, but they'll let no-one down. Leaving aside the plea of every fan of every club (two more rampaging raw boned 6ft 5in 80 minute ball-handling props with NRL experience) and strictly in the real world, my 25th man would be another half. We've two good hookers in Jones and Wildie, the latter can cover SH, and then Lacans and Ford in the halves. All will play every week and I don't see anyone else in the squad in a halfback or hooking role at all (Davies & Bussey's days there are gone). So I trust the board to pick up a King/Brown/Jacks type signing and we're good to go. 1 https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeymagic22 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 10 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said: If Pickers and Locky make up the 24 man squad, then fair enough. We know what we'll get from those two dependable players. If we are being harsh, we'd say Pickers is 3rd choice FB and Locky is past his prime, but they'll let no-one down. Leaving aside the plea of every fan of every club (two more rampaging raw boned 6ft 5in 80 minute ball-handling props with NRL experience) and strictly in the real world, my 25th man would be another half. We've two good hookers in Jones and Wildie, the latter can cover SH, and then Lacans and Ford in the halves. All will play every week and I don't see anyone else in the squad in a halfback or hooking role at all (Davies & Bussey's days there are gone). So I trust the board to pick up a King/Brown/Jacks type signing and we're good to go. I’d agree about Lochy, clearly past his best, but if used sparingly, can do a job. Think that you underestimate Pickersgill, who to me looks like a quality player, and I can see him being a regular first teamer. One disadvantage from picking up players late, is that fitness can be an issue. So it’s a gamble, have your players have a full preseason, or hang on and pick up quality, which wouldn’t usually be available. I’d also wonder if Joey is still in the Uk, as if he has a full preseason, his level could improve next season. Does anyone know?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, marklaspalmas said: If Pickers and Locky make up the 24 man squad, then fair enough. We know what we'll get from those two dependable players. If we are being harsh, we'd say Pickers is 3rd choice FB and Locky is past his prime, but they'll let no-one down. Leaving aside the plea of every fan of every club (two more rampaging raw boned 6ft 5in 80 minute ball-handling props with NRL experience) and strictly in the real world, my 25th man would be another half. We've two good hookers in Jones and Wildie, the latter can cover SH, and then Lacans and Ford in the halves. All will play every week and I don't see anyone else in the squad in a halfback or hooking role at all (Davies & Bussey's days there are gone). So I trust the board to pick up a King/Brown/Jacks type signing and we're good to go. Yep, a good summary. I can see Pickersgill being given first shot at full back though if he is indeed staying given Pryce's' enthusiasm for him and he also strikes me as being the type of player Long will like because of his link-up skills. As you say, every forum across SL and Championship has fans asking for a "big, nasty prop", which shows their scarcity. We'e in pretty good shape I'd say to wait and see who comes available in terms of a third half back and maybe more middles and an outside back. Still a bit puzzled by the multiple uses of the words "scrum half" in this thread...isn't the only difference between the two half backs these days that the "scrum half" rolls the ball to the loose forward's feet in the scrum? he doesn't even collect it from the scrum as the hooker does that. To me teams just have a left-side half back and a right-side half back. We don't know how Long will see the likes of Bussey, Moors, Davies and Taylor, all of whom can play as middles or edge back row, as well as Hardcastle who can play back row or centre. So whether we need more middles or back rows depends on who they see playing where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Monkeymagic22 said: I’d also wonder if Joey is still in the Uk, as if he has a full preseason, his level could improve next season. Does anyone know?. Judged on his Instagram he's now back in England after taking a holiday with his family in the UK. Junior Moors has clearly been given leave for a visit to Australia though. Following the players on insta doesn't half make you feel like a stalker sometimes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 18 minutes ago, Monkeymagic22 said: I’d agree about Lochy, clearly past his best, but if used sparingly, can do a job. Think that you underestimate Pickersgill, who to me looks like a quality player, and I can see him being a regular first teamer. One disadvantage from picking up players late, is that fitness can be an issue. So it’s a gamble, have your players have a full preseason, or hang on and pick up quality, which wouldn’t usually be available. I’d also wonder if Joey is still in the Uk, as if he has a full preseason, his level could improve next season. Does anyone know?. Fair comment there on Pickers. He's some way behind a fully fit Kheirallah but who knows when we'll see that in 2023. Till then, Pickers is a safe house. Re a new signing. Even Christmas time would be perfectly acceptable in terms of picking up an Aussie HB in my opinion. Joey in 2022 and then Ford struggled early on, but many late signings have just slotted in. https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Yep, a good summary. I can see Pickersgill being given first shot at full back though if he is indeed staying given Pryce's' enthusiasm for him and he also strikes me as being the type of player Long will like because of his link-up skills. As you say, every forum across SL and Championship has fans asking for a "big, nasty prop", which shows their scarcity. We'e in pretty good shape I'd say to wait and see who comes available in terms of a third half back and maybe more middles and an outside back. Still a bit puzzled by the multiple uses of the words "scrum half" in this thread...isn't the only difference between the two half backs these days that the "scrum half" rolls the ball to the loose forward's feet in the scrum? he doesn't even collect it from the scrum as the hooker does that. To me teams just have a left-side half back and a right-side half back. We don't know how Long will see the likes of Bussey, Moors, Davies and Taylor, all of whom can play as middles or edge back row, as well as Hardcastle who can play back row or centre. So whether we need more middles or back rows depends on who they see playing where. Agree re. Pickers, see above. Totally agree about scrum half, stand off etc. It's obsolete. Perhaps in my head one half is more the general (scrum-half) and the other attacking the line and linking with the backs (stand-off), but its nonsense. Same "loose forward" I do feel that once back rowers move into the middle for a while, they tend not to move back. I could see perhaps Bussey and Davies wide, but not Moors. Day & Bussey would be my starting BRs https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POR Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: As you say, every forum across SL and Championship has fans asking for a "big, nasty prop", which shows their scarcity. Don't know whether people think they're big and nasty, but Bulls have signed Lawrence from Giants and the and the Dogs got Kibula from Bulls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyship Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, POR said: Don't know whether people think they're big and nasty, but Bulls have signed Lawrence from Giants and the and the Dogs got Kibula from Bulls The signing of Lawrence by the Bulls caught my eye - always been an admirer of his. looks like championship will be closer next year as some good signings by the top end teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Briscoe Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Yep, a good summary. I can see Pickersgill being given first shot at full back though if he is indeed staying given Pryce's' enthusiasm for him and he also strikes me as being the type of player Long will like because of his link-up skills. As you say, every forum across SL and Championship has fans asking for a "big, nasty prop", which shows their scarcity. We'e in pretty good shape I'd say to wait and see who comes available in terms of a third half back and maybe more middles and an outside back. Still a bit puzzled by the multiple uses of the words "scrum half" in this thread...isn't the only difference between the two half backs these days that the "scrum half" rolls the ball to the loose forward's feet in the scrum? he doesn't even collect it from the scrum as the hooker does that. To me teams just have a left-side half back and a right-side half back. We don't know how Long will see the likes of Bussey, Moors, Davies and Taylor, all of whom can play as middles or edge back row, as well as Hardcastle who can play back row or centre. So whether we need more middles or back rows depends on who they see playing where. Who is Taylor PH? What have I missed?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, marklaspalmas said: Agree re. Pickers, see above. Totally agree about scrum half, stand off etc. It's obsolete. Perhaps in my head one half is more the general (scrum-half) and the other attacking the line and linking with the backs (stand-off), but its nonsense. Same "loose forward" I do feel that once back rowers move into the middle for a while, they tend not to move back. I could see perhaps Bussey and Davies wide, but not Moors. Day & Bussey would be my starting BRs Back rowers ? Can we call them left and right edges for pitys sake..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Phil Briscoe said: Who is Taylor PH? What have I missed?! Elijah Taylor, signed from Salford. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Phil Briscoe said: Who is Taylor PH? What have I missed?! Elijah Taylor (forward signed from Salford) I'm sure I'll think of something funny to say soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 minute ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Elijah Taylor, signed from Salford. snap I'm sure I'll think of something funny to say soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Briscoe Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Grinder said: snap Apologies ignore me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, RobLambert said: Back rowers ? Can we call them left and right edges for pitys sake..... Yeah, the whole thing needs redoing tbh. I'm not a massive fan of edge, middle etc, but it's more accurate to use than prop, second-row etc. Each to his own I guess..... 2 https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobLambert Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, marklaspalmas said: Yeah, the whole thing needs redoing tbh. I'm not a massive fan of edge, middle etc, but it's more accurate to use than prop, second-row etc. Each to his own I guess..... Just to clarify i was just joking and don't care what we call them - as long as we're talking about the same thing !! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phantom Horseman Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Whilst I agree with those who say we need a 3rd half back, it's interesting that Toulouse have just announced Jake Shorrocks from Newcastle - I bet their fans would kill to have Ford and Lacans as their half back pairing right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POR Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Phantom Horseman said: Whilst I agree with those who say we need a 3rd half back, Funny thing with this 3rd half back conundrum sure Brandon P is listed as a fullback and standoff and if memory serves me right, he played 6 for the Bulls in 21 when we beat them at home 41-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marklaspalmas Posted November 18, 2022 Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, RobLambert said: Just to clarify i was just joking and don't care what we call them - as long as we're talking about the same thing !! https://www.fevarchive.co.uk/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza77 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, POR said: Funny thing with this 3rd half back conundrum sure Brandon P is listed as a fullback and standoff and if memory serves me right, he played 6 for the Bulls in 21 when we beat them at home 41-16 Equally, I seem to recall whilst Bulls fans were generally disappointed to see him leave, they pretty much universally felt he shouldn't be anywhere near stand off/one of the two halves. Please view my photos. http://www.hughesphoto.co.uk/ Little Nook Farm - Caravan Club Certificated Location in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. http://www.facebook.com/LittleNookFarm Little Nook Cottage - 2-bed self-catering cottage in the heart of the Pennines overlooking Hebden Bridge and the Calder Valley. Book now via airbnb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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