Sat 17th Sept: SL: St Helens v Salford Red Devils KO 13:00 (Sky & Channel 4)

[Dunbar]

7 minutes ago, Phil said:

All I can say is that given my refereeing experience I would have given a penalty try 

That's fair enough and as I say, I would been happy to see it given..

I do think it is one where the ref on field is best to make the call as he has a sense of how fast the ball and players are moving that you don't get as well on tv

[Damien]

3 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Indeed.  I prefer RU's approach on this. 

Makinson fouled over the try line as a Salford player was hoping to score.  The bebefot of the doubt shouldn't go to Saints. 

Interesting, I never knew that. It is an approach that should be investigated for sure.

[DavidM]

Just now, Harry Stottle said:

Totally agree and no leniency because he would be selected for England.

Yes , and we don’t need illdisciplined lock forwards who do silly things . Luckily we have Victor Radley instead .

[johnh1]

So we’ve got Saints v Leeds again. Not sure who I want to lose the most.

[Jughead]

Thank the Lord that ended. A markable difference in performance between the first and second half in both teams there. As comfortable as it should have been for Saints after that first half, the second was a hard slog. 

Kendall couldn’t have been in a better position for the penalty try “controversy” and I’m not sure what the video ref would have ascertained that Kendall couldn’t/wouldn’t have seen. 

Salford get the off-season to learn the rest of the dance moves to the YMCA. They’ve nailed the Y whenever one of their own players was tackled. 

[hullste]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

Indeed.  I prefer RU's approach on this. 

Makinson fouled over the try line as a Salford player was hoping to score.  The bebefot of the doubt shouldn't go to Saints. 

The referee has to be certain he will score to award a penalty try, couldn't be so sent him to the sin bin and awarded a penalty. Under the current rules he couldn't have done anything else. I'm a Saint's fan and don't agree with it but thems the rules, can't just change them in a semi final. 

Yet another Saints v Leeds Grand Final. 

[SydneyRoosters]

Both of the super league semi finals this weekend were a lot more entertaining than the nrl ones, Good advert for the league.

[Bod]

Funny how you all didn't see the Salford player blocking Batchelor for his disallowed try or the blatant shoulder charge  sending off in the first minutes when Ackers went off.

[Dave T]

Excellent interview from Rowley.  Very classy. 

[Harry Stottle]

I have been shot down on this site for saying player's put their head into the contact area and the tackler should not be penalised, but people tell me I am wrong, so someone please tell me why Welsby got away with the head contact in that tackle.

Edited September 17, 2022 by Harry Stottle

[Harry Stottle]

I think Makinson thought it was a penalty try.

[Bod]

1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:

I have been shot down on this site for saying player's put their head into the contact area and the tackler should not be penalised, but people tell me I am wrong, so someone please tell me why Welsby got away with the head contact in that tackle.

Because it was an accidental head contact.

[bratman]

1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:

I think Makinson thought it was a penalty try.

He wouldn't have grabbed him if he didn't think he would score.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, johnh1 said:

So we’ve got Saints v Leeds again. Not sure who I want to lose the most.

Another Leeds Saints final, might cancel sky sports this weekend instead of waiting till next Sunday.

[Harry Stottle]

Just now, Bod said:

Because it was an accidental head contact.

But that doesn't matter I have been told by countless people.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Bod said:

Because it was an accidental head contact.

Accidental head contact is still a penalty.

[Dave T]

3 minutes ago, hullste said:

The referee has to be certain he will score to award a penalty try, couldn't be so sent him to the sin bin and awarded a penalty. Under the current rules he couldn't have done anything else. I'm a Saint's fan and don't agree with it but thems the rules, can't just change them in a semi final. 

Yet another Saints v Leeds Grand Final. 

People often used words like 'certain'  or 'definitely'  around Video Refs.  Tomkins on C4 has just said 100% certainty.  

There is no such clause contained. 

The laws simply state that a penalty try is awarded if "in the refs opinion a try would have been scored..." 

We need to stop adding other words to set the bar higher. Now in this instance the refs opinion was it wouldn't,  so fair enough,  but we probably need a discussion as to whether penalty tries are a thing in RL. 

[idrewthehaggis]

Trying to listen that, when you should be there, full of COVID was "difficult."

Well done Salford. Almost there in the end.

That was our 4th semi final in seven years for the club that doesn't bring anything to the Game.

Going to get some serious rest as I am utterly shattered, come back in the next few days, watch it again, listen to my mates you aren't diseased and went, read some of the comments on here and draw my own thoughts.

Edited September 17, 2022 by idrewthehaggis

[Chrispmartha]

2 minutes ago, Bod said:

Because it was an accidental head contact.

So what, there was pages of people saying Martins ban was correct because he hit him in the head, fusitua also got banned for s very similar tackle.

he should get a ban but he wont.

Knowles should be 3-4 games

[Ragingbull]

Good luck Saint for next week. Hope you give them a hiding. 

[dkw]

2 minutes ago, 7723 said:

Another Leeds Saints final, might cancel sky sports this weekend instead of waiting till next Sunday.

It's 10 seasons since saints v Leeds was the final.

[Jughead]

Am I right in saying that people want Welsby banned for Ackers’ terrible attempt at tackling technique? 

[Guest]

Just now, dkw said:

It's 10 seasons since saints v Leeds was the final.

Its still the same old boring though. I’ve not really got too much interest in the final to be honest. Maybe I would have had a bit more had Salford got there to possibly see a new name on the trophy.

[Harry Stottle]

20 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Saints aren't anything special

No team actually is in SL Tommy, the standard has been dropping year on year for a good while.

[Guest]

Just now, Jughead said:

Am I right in saying that people want Welsby banned for Ackers’ terrible attempt at tackling technique? 

I think it is for the shoulder to the head on a Salford player he was tackling.