Damien Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 This is pretty shocking and comes on the back of other issues, such as players receiving racist abuse, in recent years: The Australian Football League is investigating claims Aboriginal players at one of its most successful clubs were bullied by senior coaching staff. Hawthorn Football Club players were reportedly isolated from family, told to leave their partners and one alleges he was ordered to end a pregnancy. One of the coaches implicated has taken leave as the league investigates the "disturbing" claims. They were uncovered by a review of the team's treatment of Indigenous people. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) published details of the confidential report on Wednesday, as the league prepares for the grand final on Saturday. ABC interviewed three unnamed players who were at the Melbourne club - also known as the Hawks - between 2005 and 2021. During that time, they say they were forced to choose between their careers and their families. One said coaching staff had "demanded that I needed to get rid of my unborn child and my partner". "I was then manipulated and convinced to remove my SIM card from my phone so there was no further contact between my family and me. They told me I'd be living with one of the other coaches from that night onward," he said. His partner did not go through with an abortion and the couple reconciled within months. But when she became pregnant again soon after the birth of their first child, the woman told the ABC she felt she needed to end that pregnancy to avoid a repeat ordeal. Another player told the ABC Hawthorn reacted similarly when they learned his partner was pregnant. He said he was forced to break up with her and cut off contact. She later miscarried. A third player - who was from another state - told the investigation the club had actively tried to stop his young family from relocating to Melbourne to be with him. All three couples spoke about their mental health struggles since the incidents. Hawthorn Football Club hit by 'harrowing' racism, bullying claims - BBC News 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Absolutely horrific. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 AFL has a long history of racism, but appear most of the time to have the media and politicians in their pockets Why people of colour play the game is a mystery to many Australians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 On 21/09/2022 at 12:19, Damien said: This is pretty shocking and comes on the back of other issues, such as players receiving racist abuse, in recent years: The Australian Football League is investigating claims Aboriginal players at one of its most successful clubs were bullied by senior coaching staff. Hawthorn Football Club players were reportedly isolated from family, told to leave their partners and one alleges he was ordered to end a pregnancy. One of the coaches implicated has taken leave as the league investigates the "disturbing" claims. They were uncovered by a review of the team's treatment of Indigenous people. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) published details of the confidential report on Wednesday, as the league prepares for the grand final on Saturday. ABC interviewed three unnamed players who were at the Melbourne club - also known as the Hawks - between 2005 and 2021. During that time, they say they were forced to choose between their careers and their families. One said coaching staff had "demanded that I needed to get rid of my unborn child and my partner". "I was then manipulated and convinced to remove my SIM card from my phone so there was no further contact between my family and me. They told me I'd be living with one of the other coaches from that night onward," he said. His partner did not go through with an abortion and the couple reconciled within months. But when she became pregnant again soon after the birth of their first child, the woman told the ABC she felt she needed to end that pregnancy to avoid a repeat ordeal. Another player told the ABC Hawthorn reacted similarly when they learned his partner was pregnant. He said he was forced to break up with her and cut off contact. She later miscarried. A third player - who was from another state - told the investigation the club had actively tried to stop his young family from relocating to Melbourne to be with him. All three couples spoke about their mental health struggles since the incidents. Hawthorn Football Club hit by 'harrowing' racism, bullying claims - BBC News On 21/09/2022 at 12:39, gingerjon said: Absolutely horrific. Australia football or AFL has a very long history of racism and here are some examples https://theconversation.com/loud-obnoxious-and-at-times-racist-the-sordid-history-of-afl-barracking-119080 https://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/1170837/alcock-a-long-way-to-go-to-stamp-out-racism https://digital-classroom.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/australian-football-league-apologises-adam-goodes https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/jul/31/no-room-for-racism-in-afl-but-it-runs-deeper-than-just-verbal-and-online-abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Some lowlights from Collingwood. Early 90s Collingwood President, Allan McAlister - “As long as they conduct themselves like white people, well, off the field, everyone will admire and respect … As long as they conduct themselves like human beings, they will be all right. That’s the key.” 2013 - Just days after Adam Goodes was racially abused by a 13-year-old girl at the MCG - Eddie Maguire, President of Collingwood, suggests Adam Goodes should be used to promote King Kong the musical. 2021 - Collingwood found to have systemic racism https://amp.abc.net.au/article/13055816 2022 - former Collingwood greats cut contact with Collingwood over lack of action to address racism. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100987420 “It is our firm belief that the Collingwood Football Club has no intention of acting in good faith to achieve a just outcome for past players who have experienced racism at the Club," Lumumba wrote on Twitter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Copa said: Early 90s Collingwood President, Allan McAlister - “As long as they conduct themselves like white people, well, off the field, everyone will admire and respect … As long as they conduct themselves like human beings, they will be all right. That’s the key.”ers who have experienced racism at the Club," Lumumba wrote on Twitter. You'd never hear anything like that in the NRL today. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nrl/article-11083423/Newcastle-Knights-racism-row-Staffer-told-Indigenous-footballer-stop-playing-like-blackfella.html Still, the AFL doing all it can to get turn Sydneysiders back to league this morning. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, gingerjon said: You'd never hear anything like that in the NRL today. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nrl/article-11083423/Newcastle-Knights-racism-row-Staffer-told-Indigenous-footballer-stop-playing-like-blackfella.html Still, the AFL doing all it can to get turn Sydneysiders back to league this morning. The NRL can have issues but it’s nothing like the entrenched racism of the AFL that can openly come from unrepentant head coaches and some club presidents. The unrelenting booing of Adam Goodes in stadiums around Australia was also beyond shameful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, Copa said: The NRL can have issues but it’s nothing like the entrenched racism of the AFL that can openly come from unrepentant head coaches and some club presidents. The unrelenting booing of Adam Goodes in stadiums around Australia was also beyond shameful. Aye, it does seem endemic in the AFL in a much deeper way. 1 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 6 hours ago, gingerjon said: You'd never hear anything like that in the NRL today. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nrl/article-11083423/Newcastle-Knights-racism-row-Staffer-told-Indigenous-footballer-stop-playing-like-blackfella.html Still, the AFL doing all it can to get turn Sydneysiders back to league this morning. It is from the union loving Daily Mail, who if my memory serves me right used to sponsor a union schools competition and possibly still do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Copa said: Some lowlights from Collingwood. Early 90s Collingwood President, Allan McAlister - “As long as they conduct themselves like white people, well, off the field, everyone will admire and respect … As long as they conduct themselves like human beings, they will be all right. That’s the key.” 2013 - Just days after Adam Goodes was racially abused by a 13-year-old girl at the MCG - Eddie Maguire, President of Collingwood, suggests Adam Goodes should be used to promote King Kong the musical. 2021 - Collingwood found to have systemic racism https://amp.abc.net.au/article/13055816 2022 - former Collingwood greats cut contact with Collingwood over lack of action to address racism. https://amp.abc.net.au/article/100987420 “It is our firm belief that the Collingwood Football Club has no intention of acting in good faith to achieve a just outcome for past players who have experienced racism at the Club," Lumumba wrote on Twitter. Not only racism is AFL known for, but also sexism and homophobia and quire a few times fiddling their junior playing numbers in NSW and QLD to receive more tax payers money, which they have been caught out on. It even took money from the Chinese government to take some games there, despite Chinas appalling human rights record. There is nowhere where they won't go to get money. If they was offered enough they would even go to Moscow and play games there, despite Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine. They have zero morals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, The Future is League said: It is from the union loving Daily Mail, who if my memory serves me right used to sponsor a union schools competition and possibly still do It's also been covered by Nine, Fox Sports, the Newcastle Herald and others. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Future is League Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 37 minutes ago, gingerjon said: It's also been covered by Nine, Fox Sports, the Newcastle Herald and others. I guess with the amount of racism that's happened in fumbleball over the years they have reported all of them acts. That's me done on here for the evening as i settle down to watch the Grand Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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