Griff Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: For salaried players? Few players are on a flat salary and nothing else. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agbrigg Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: For salaried players? It's always been the case that play off games and cup games share the gate after expenses, in every league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, Griff said: Few players are on a flat salary and nothing else. Bonuses within the cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Tommygilf said: Bonuses within the cap? Tommy, your rep is fast disappearing. A shared gate is what happens. I don't need to justify or apologise for it. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 John Davidson has said that he’s spoken to people and “it’s nothing too radical” and a lot of “common sense”. To me, the latter doesn’t work with the former but we’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, DOGFATHER said: But how many of those 2500 are paying spectators? Apparently, Barrow have said they gave 1500 tickets away for the playoff game with us. I've no problem with that, but they should have disclosed it to the club prior to the game, sadly they didn't though. It will be interesting to see how the RFL deal with that, and whose share of the shared gate that loss in revenue is taken from. I guess by actually having their own ground they make more money on the revenue generated than on the tickets. Its a problem many clubs have that by getting nothing from the bar it means they jack ticket prices so no new fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 9 minutes ago, Griff said: Tommy, your rep is fast disappearing. A shared gate is what happens. I don't need to justify or apologise for it. That's fine, Griff. I didn't say it was to pay players though! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: That's fine, Griff. I didn't say it was to pay players though! Fair enough, Tommy. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2pm is the official release time apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: 2pm is the official release time apparently. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I’m going for 2.57pm as the time of the first statement from a club moaning about what comes from the meeting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jughead said: I’m going for 2.57pm as the time of the first statement from a club moaning about what comes from the meeting. I'll go for 2.01. "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henson Park Old Firm Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 give it 11.39 am before people on here start culling clubs in advance 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jughead said: John Davidson has said that he’s spoken to people and “it’s nothing too radical” and a lot of “common sense”. To me, the latter doesn’t work with the former but we’ll see. I think people have got a little obsessed with structures, as we always do in RL, and while that is the thing that will grab headlines, I think there is an awful lot more that I think IMG can bring to the table and should be focusing on. I've made the point before, it isn't structure that is holding the game back, it is a lot of the fundamentals that if we don't fix, will still be a problem in licensing or any other model that anyone likes. Of course the structure is important, but the boring stuff is probably what is going to make the biggest changes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Griff said: I'll go for 2.01. 7 minutes ago, Jughead said: I’m going for 2.57pm as the time of the first statement from a club moaning about what comes from the meeting. Yes, I think Jughead is being particularly kind there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnM Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 Very strong rumour that it's going to be 2 x10s. 1 "Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." JohnM - 17/01/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Dave T said: I think people have got a little obsessed with structures, as we always do in RL, and while that is the thing that will grab headlines, I think there is an awful lot more that I think IMG can bring to the table and should be focusing on. I've made the point before, it isn't structure that is holding the game back, it is a lot of the fundamentals that if we don't fix, will still be a problem in licensing or any other model that anyone likes. Of course the structure is important, but the boring stuff is probably what is going to make the biggest changes. Here's the structure, oh and by the way, we've completely changed the commercial set-up of rugby league, introduced these new streaming platforms and are working with partners in X,Y,Z territories, industries etc. You can bet which aspect of that sentence will get the most coverage. 2 2 Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 50 minutes ago, ShropshireBull said: I guess by actually having their own ground they make more money on the revenue generated than on the tickets. Its a problem many clubs have that by getting nothing from the bar it means they jack ticket prices so no new fans. Shared gate revenue in the play-offs. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mumby Magic Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 28 minutes ago, JohnM said: Very strong rumour that it's going to be 2 x10s. Then we'll change it back after a year or so when it doesn't work. It's not restructuring dramatically that we need. 2 Like poor jokes? Thejoketeller@mullymessiah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Shared gate revenue in the play-offs. No club should be handing out free tickets for a shared gate game without the opposition's agreement. There are some fairly strict rules, including limits on how many tickets are available to directors. All publicly available on the RFL website for those sufficiently interested. 3 "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattSantos Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 I'm genuinely excited. It'll be a damp squid* *i know it's squib, but a drying squid is funnier 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelaide Tiger Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said: 2pm is the official release time apparently. If you are right it will mean that I will see the proposals at 10.30pm Adelaide time and then spend an interesting half an hour or so reading the avalanche of wails, gnashing of teeth, exultations etc. before bedtime. Can’t wait! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, gingerjon said: Shared gate revenue in the play-offs. Yes but not the bar which is the point. I am sure Batley have done fine for money in the playoffs now. Derek will give them the tickets on Sunday plus second place central funding plus half fev money. Cant think of a club who deserves it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulga Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Adelaide Tiger said: If you are right it will mean that I will see the proposals at 10.30pm Adelaide time and then spend an interesting half an hour or so reading the avalanche of wails, gnashing of teeth, exultations etc. before bedtime. Can’t wait! Man, I will be asleep. I'm going to miss the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShropshireBull Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnM said: Very strong rumour that it's going to be 2 x10s. That would be the worst outcome. More loop fixtures fewer teams able to grow and gut the championship which is many the problem. Nor franchising so its the worst of all worlds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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