GeordieSaint Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Is it announced tomorrow? The press are starting to have an opinion: I am going with: Backs 1 Tomkins - 2 Welsby - 3 Makinson - 4 Young - 5 Hall - 6 Percival - 7 Watkins - 8 Farnworth - 9 Williams - 10 Lomax - 11 Sneyd - 12 Smith Forwards 13 Burgess - 14 Thompson - 15 Oldezki - 16 Cooper/Lees - 17 Sutton - 18 Ackers - 19 McIllorum - 20 Bateman - 21 Whitehead - 22 Batchelor - 23 Radley - 24 Knowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odsal Outlaw Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 BBC reporting that Lomax and Percival out due to injury concerns but Farnworh and Watkins in Nottingham Outlaws Rugby League Harry Jepson Winners 2008 RLC Midlands Premier Champions 2006 & 2008 East Midlands Challenge Cup Winners 2005, 2006, 2007 & 2008 Rotterdam International 9's Cup Winners 2005 RLC North Midlands Champions 2003 & 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StandOffHalf Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 The mood music around Percival and Lomax doesn't sound good. If Percival is out, I'd have Jake Connor in there for his class and ability to pick a pass. He and Herbie would be my first choice centres. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 If Percival and Lomax are out, then I expect Hardaker and McMeeken to come into my 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 Confirmed: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/63082580 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) If Lomax is out, I would definitely have Sneyd in the 13 as he is the best game management half we have. Have him plus Williams and Smith and then probably Welsby and Tomknis who can both play in the halves if need be. We have a few options in the spine but centre is starting to look very bare. Good news if Farworth is fit otherwise we would be in trouble. I just don't see Hardaker as a quality centre but he may be there for utility. Will Watkins revert to the centre for the World Cup. He is safe and in form but is he the attacking threat out wide that he was. Edited September 29, 2022 by Dunbar "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 (edited) The Lomax situation does frustrate me. I get that clubs have to look after their players and players are contracted etc etc. But Lomax has been 'managing' an injury for months that fans of Saints were assured couldn't get worse. He played all the way to the Grand Final and won man of the match. Now he is out. As a Rugby League fan, I believe that any success at the world cup is immeasurably more important than Saints getting 4 in a row. But my priorities are not Saints priorities. Edited September 29, 2022 by Dunbar 13 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Perivale is no loss for me. Lomax had a blinder in the Grand Final and would have been well in contention for a starting spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dunbar said: The Lomax situation does frustrate me. I get that clubs have to look after their players and players are contracted etc etc. But Lomax has been 'managing' an injury for months that fans of Saints were assured couldn't get worse. He played all the way to the Grand Final and won man of the match. Now he is out. As a Rugby League fan, I believe that any success at the world cup is immeasurably more important than Saints getting 4 in a row. But my priorities are not Saints priorities. I agree ref Lomax. I’d actually be inclined to start Watkins and Farnworth even if Percival was fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dunbar said: The Lomax situation does frustrate me. I get that clubs have to look after their players and players are contracted etc etc. But Lomax has been 'managing' an injury for months that fans of Saints were assured couldn't get worse. He played all the way to the Grand Final and won man of the match. Now he is out. As a Rugby League fan, I believe that any success at the world cup is immeasurably more important than Saints getting 4 in a row. But my priorities are not Saints priorities. And Saints’ priorities are not England’s priorities. They have a long history of players being unavailable for international duty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEyePie Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Dunbar said: If Lomax is out, I would definitely have Sneyd in the 13 as he is the best game management half we have. Have him plus Williams and Smith and then probably Welsby and Tomknis who can both play in the halves if need be. We have a few options in the spine but centre is starting to look very bare. Good news if Farworth is fit otherwise we would be in trouble. I just don't see Hardaker as a quality centre but he may be there for utility. Will Watkins revert to the centre for the World Cup. He is safe and in form but is he the attacking threat out wide that he was. Pack and wings I am pretty much in line with @geordie saint Matty Smith was a useful player for England in his day. Terrible at thinking outside the box or playing creatively but he could play to a game plan and do the simple things so well, which in international games that can be ultra structured and attritional is quite useful. If Sneyd can come in and do that role and provide us with a solid kicking game he could be a good addition. He's also a little bit more creative than Smith was, so as long as his defence is solid Sneyd could have something to offer. With Watkins I'd be a bit wary of picking him as a centre. Isn't it the case that his return to form has pretty much coincided with his move into the back row? If his form wasn't great playing centre but he's now in excellent form as a back rower I can't see how it makes any sense to pick him in the position he was underperforming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Wiganer Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 The Wigan players who I think could do a job would be: (Smith), (Marshall), Cooper, Havard, Bateman, KPP, (Smithies),with outsiders in brackets. Of those I think KPP is the one I think could make a radical impact in a big game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 cant see us even winning a single game the way its going - worst line up in my living memory - ageing has beens and never will bees - what a state we are in 1 1 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Love how the Hull and Hull KR journalists both included Farnworth even though their employer recently reported he would miss the WC because of injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 We need Welsby in and with Lomax out Samkins could play in the halves . Honestly why he’d pick Mcilorum is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: cant see us even winning a single game the way its going - worst line up in my living memory - ageing has beens and never will bees - what a state we are in A balanced and not at all melodramatic post as usual johnny. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuff Smith Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 31 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said: Confirmed: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/63082580 Hell's bells. 10 minutes ago, DavidM said: We need Welsby in and with Lomax out Samkins could play in the halves . Honestly why he’d pick Mcilorum is beyond me I'm not sure I'd pick Tomkins in the halves. But, to be honest, I'm not sure I'd pick him at full-back either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSaint Posted September 29, 2022 Author Share Posted September 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, DavidM said: We need Welsby in and with Lomax out Samkins could play in the halves . Honestly why he’d pick Mcilorum is beyond me I agree. I’d go with Leeming and Clarke at hooker. I appreciate Clarke has been poor but he’s got experience and you don’t lose class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuff Smith Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 17 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: cant see us even winning a single game the way its going - worst line up in my living memory - ageing has beens and never will bees - what a state we are in Blimey, you're an optimist! Surely we'll beat someone. Mind you, looking at the Greek team line-up, you might be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usain bolt Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Regular international matches produce and find out who are at international standard as players. Most of these in the squad are untried as a team, or haven't played together internationally for an age. I wonder if the growth of the game international match wise has been discussed by img as a proposal or is a 2 legged challenge cup round their idea of expanding the game globally and a better solution for the development of international standard players. Looking at the above squads being selected, the cupboard looks rather bare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, Dunbar said: The Lomax situation does frustrate me. I get that clubs have to look after their players and players are contracted etc etc. But Lomax has been 'managing' an injury for months that fans of Saints were assured couldn't get worse. He played all the way to the Grand Final and won man of the match. Now he is out. As a Rugby League fan, I believe that any success at the world cup is immeasurably more important than Saints getting 4 in a row. But my priorities are not Saints priorities. Yes very frustrating . He should turn up for the World Cup then have as much time for rehab as he wants 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, usain bolt said: Looking at the above squads being selected, the cupboard looks rather bare. old mother hubbard had more choices than sean wane - we are really gonna pay for the lack of development and investment over the last decade in this wc 2 1 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 minute ago, DavidM said: Yes very frustrating . He should turn up for the World Cup then have as much time for rehab as he wants never proved at international or nrl level - very overrated sl player wrong side of 28 now- would be eaten alive by munster and cleary -saints will hail him as a legend though - far from it see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usain bolt Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Just now, graveyard johnny said: old mother hubbard had more choices than sean wane - we are really gonna pay for the lack of development and investment over the last decade in this wc I hope we're both wrong and England as a team do themselves proud, but the lack of internationals, especially against Australian standard quality has pushed us back I fear. There just doesn't look like any world class superstar players jumping out that we've always had to win us the big games, too many mediocre players at international level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshmagpie Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 47 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said: cant see us even winning a single game the way its going - worst line up in my living memory - ageing has beens and never will bees - what a state we are in You surely can’t be serious. Have you seen the Greek squad? No offence to them but the Knights squad could go out and beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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