FearTheVee Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Leonard said: The counterfactual will never be known. But fact is someone could have watched quite cheaply if they wanted. If those areas were full and the expensive seats empty, I would be more convinced. 6300 managed it for a less attractive game at Kingston Park. Exactly. I'm not saying the pricing is correct, but given there were cheap tickets empty I'm more inclined to think it has more to do with a) local league die-hards not bothering and b) cash being very short for people at the moment. I would add too many games at the same venues but I will wait to see how it plays out across all the venues before drawing that conclusion. We can make all the excuses we want, but the fact is that not enough people in the heartlands wanted to buy the cheapest available tickets to watch NZ play on their doorstep even with an extra year of build up. More people bothered to go to a far worse game in Newcastle. Edited October 17, 2022 by FearTheVee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmain1969 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Going through the remaining fixtures and based on what we've seen so far (on the field), I think these will be the best potential games to draw a crowd Tonga v PNG - 10k Eng v Fra - 25k Leb v Ire - 10k (this will decide QF spot) NZ v Ire - 15k (esp. if Ire beat Leb) Sam v Fra - 13k ((this will decide QF spot, and hopefully France have a good showing against England) Potential QF Aus v Ire/Leb - 15k (Huddersfield) Eng v PNG - 25k (Wigan) NZ v Fiji - 15k (Hull) Ton v Samoa/Fra - 13k (HJ) Potential SF Aus v NZ - 40k (Leeds) Eng v Ton - 60k (Emirates) Potential Final NZ/Aus v Eng - 70k (OT) TOTAL - 311,000 + 74,464 that have already attended = 385,464 There are a remaining 44 fixtures across mens, womens and wheelchair, they would need to average 4,200 to get a total aggregate of 570k. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Buy on the day? Yes. Ticket office will be open from 9am until half an hour after kick off. As will the online sales, so you can simply buy in the pub, have an extra pint and go straight to the turnstiles. What a fantastic concept. Pop to the pub and get a pint, a packet of pork scratchings and a match ticket over the bar. Brilliant Matt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrispmartha Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Mark S said: No more internationals at Headingley. If they can’t get a decent number of fans to a game then we should suspend them from hosting internationals. I know Leeds have over stretched to pay for the new stands but it’s not up to the rest of the game to finance it. There’s simply too many games at Headingley (and Wire) But I suspect your just on an anti leeds windup again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, Leonard said: Trains in the north west do seem ruined at at the moment and make evening games hard to attend. Not at Leigh they don't 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Eel Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, Balmain1969 said: Going through the remaining fixtures and based on what we've seen so far (on the field), I think these will be the best potential games to draw a crowd Tonga v PNG - 10k Eng v Fra - 25k Leb v Ire - 10k (this will decide QF spot) NZ v Ire - 15k (esp. if Ire beat Leb) Sam v Fra - 13k ((this will decide QF spot, and hopefully France have a good showing against England) Potential QF Aus v Ire/Leb - 15k (Huddersfield) Eng v PNG - 25k (Wigan) NZ v Fiji - 15k (Hull) Ton v Samoa/Fra - 13k (HJ) Potential SF Aus v NZ - 40k (Leeds) Eng v Ton - 60k (Emirates) Potential Final NZ/Aus v Eng - 70k (OT) TOTAL - 311,000 + 74,464 that have already attended = 385,464 There are a remaining 44 fixtures across mens, womens and wheelchair, they would need to average 4,200 to get a total aggregate of 570k. Eng v France has already sold 30k+. I would be quite surprised if Eng v Greece didn’t manage 30k either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Northern Eel said: Eng v France has already sold 30k+. I would be quite surprised if Eng v Greece didn’t manage 30k either. I think at Bolton it's a 28k capacity with c5k left. But they should get a boost from the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 24 minutes ago, Northern Eel said: Only the more pricey tickets left at Bolton now. It won’t be far off full, I reckon. Tonight’s game looks like a poor crowd at Doncaster, but I think it could be a good game. Newcastle crowd was fine yesterday and they made plenty of noise at the other two. Hindsight will, I am sure, be telling organisers they got some pricing wrong - and in some cases, considerably more wrong - but I’m just trying to enjoy the rugby from here. Looked at Bolton - again just not possible to get home even for a 5pm kick off. Avanti have well and truly ballsed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmain1969 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Northern Eel said: Eng v France has already sold 30k+. I would be quite surprised if Eng v Greece didn’t manage 30k either. 1 minute ago, Dave T said: I think at Bolton it's a 28k capacity with c5k left. But they should get a boost from the other day. See, now we're being positive. The world hasn't ended yet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, meast said: Absolutely, but then as fans of a sport we don't help ourselves do we? Instead of bigging up this tournament and shouting about how good it is to be hosting this festival of the game with some of the biggest stars and the passion it all brings, we just complain that we are being asked to pay for it. I totally get times are hard, they are for me too, but this is my relief from the Crapp that's going on in the world right now. We should be championing the hell out of it not spitting dummies out because some tickets are £55 etc. As shown with cup games and play offs, rugby league fans don't like paying for things. I think people are bigging up the tournament to be fair but rightfully pointing out that a lot of tickets are expensive for what they are. Rugby League fans do pay for things like tickets and top flight rugby league fans have been paying to view on subscription tv since Noah was a lad. I think you’re being overly harsh here probably born out of frustration of how things ‘look on tv’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: Buy on the day? Yes. Ticket office will be open from 9am until half an hour after kick off. As will the online sales, so you can simply buy in the pub, have an extra pint and go straight to the turnstiles. I'll decide on the Cooks , Wales game on Wednesday then , did you tell me about on the day sales last Friday ? , I saw your lips moving , but no idea what you were saying Edited October 17, 2022 by GUBRATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balmain1969 said: Going through the remaining fixtures and based on what we've seen so far (on the field), I think these will be the best potential games to draw a crowd Tonga v PNG - 10k Eng v Fra - 25k Leb v Ire - 10k (this will decide QF spot) NZ v Ire - 15k (esp. if Ire beat Leb) Sam v Fra - 13k ((this will decide QF spot, and hopefully France have a good showing against England) Potential QF Aus v Ire/Leb - 15k (Huddersfield) Eng v PNG - 25k (Wigan) NZ v Fiji - 15k (Hull) Ton v Samoa/Fra - 13k (HJ) Potential SF Aus v NZ - 40k (Leeds) Eng v Ton - 60k (Emirates) Potential Final NZ/Aus v Eng - 70k (OT) TOTAL - 311,000 + 74,464 that have already attended = 385,464 There are a remaining 44 fixtures across mens, womens and wheelchair, they would need to average 4,200 to get a total aggregate of 570k. I can’t see NZ v Fiji getting 15k. It should but I don’t think it will. Just another observation is don’t forget some game days have been switched from the original schedule too. I’m going to the three group games at Doncaster which now include two Monday night matches which IIRC were going to be on more convenient days for the casual supporter to attend. Or is my memory playing tricks? I tried finding the original fixture dates but failed to see one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 hour ago, meast said: Yes, why? It’s not really relevant I was just getting my bearings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Gerrumonside ref said: I think people are bigging up the tournament to be fair but rightfully pointing out that a lot of tickets are expensive for what they are. Rugby League fans do pay for things like tickets and top flight rugby league fans have been paying to view on subscription tv since Noah was a lad. I think you’re being overly harsh here probably born out of frustration of how things ‘look on tv’. Sort that by " simplification , simplification , SIMPLIFICATION " to quote one of my favourite episodes of the Simpsons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, GUBRATS said: Not at Leigh they don't I'd use my helicopter - but i wouldn't want those in the cheap seats complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, Gerrumonside ref said: It’s not really relevant I was just getting my bearings. Liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Just now, Leonard said: I'd use my helicopter - but i wouldn't want those in the cheap seats complaining. You are Elton John and I claim my £ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Dave T said: I have 11 out of 31 mens games within 7 miles of my home. I'm spoilt for choice, but will pick and choose what I'll invest my time and money in. People are doing that now. Wow....I'd be at every game if I was that close Us fans in the south are being royally shafted at the men's world cup this time... I'm going to two weekends....Friday/saturday .... Petrol up and down with two nights hotel is about £200......the price of the ticket is almost incidental in comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 1 minute ago, GUBRATS said: Liar Honestly, I’m not having a potshot at Huddersfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave T Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said: I think people are bigging up the tournament to be fair but rightfully pointing out that a lot of tickets are expensive for what they are. Rugby League fans do pay for things like tickets and top flight rugby league fans have been paying to view on subscription tv since Noah was a lad. I think you’re being overly harsh here probably born out of frustration of how things ‘look on tv’. One thing that is certain, fans will be angry at other fans. It's a little like the country overall, without going too political, people get angry with their fellow people instead of the leaders. I'll be seen as a negative person around this, but I've put my money where my mouth is, championed the event for years and dragged along new fans. I'm pretty angry about the arrogance of the organisers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Gerrumonside ref said: Honestly, I’m not having a potshot at Huddersfield Liar , liar , pants on fire Edited October 17, 2022 by GUBRATS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssexRL Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I’ve not done the stats research on this but in any team competition some matches aren’t as attractive as others and therefore attract lower crowds. Aren’t we seeing a version of that with yesterdays games. Also as RL fans we know mismatched games aren’t very attractive to watch. If you think Jamaica might lost by 60 points or so and you are a neutral would you bother? Maybe if the games was novel to you, which is why one of yesterdays games should have been in a non heartland area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUBRATS Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Wow....I'd be at every game if I was that close Us fans in the south are being royally shafted at the men's world cup this time... I'm going to two weekends....Friday/saturday .... Petrol up and down with two nights hotel is about £200......the price of the ticket is almost incidental in comparison Yes , but you're a rich southerner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerrumonside ref Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: Wow....I'd be at every game if I was that close Us fans in the south are being royally shafted at the men's world cup this time... I'm going to two weekends....Friday/saturday .... Petrol up and down with two nights hotel is about £200......the price of the ticket is almost incidental in comparison Maybe if our economy wasn’t so London-centric there would be no need for this northern powerhouse type funding of events in the first place and we’d be richer up here to boot! (Fair play to your commitment of course!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Gordon Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, Balmain1969 said: Going through the remaining fixtures and based on what we've seen so far (on the field), I think these will be the best potential games to draw a crowd Tonga v PNG - 10k Eng v Fra - 25k Leb v Ire - 10k (this will decide QF spot) NZ v Ire - 15k (esp. if Ire beat Leb) Sam v Fra - 13k ((this will decide QF spot, and hopefully France have a good showing against England) Potential QF Aus v Ire/Leb - 15k (Huddersfield) Eng v PNG - 25k (Wigan) NZ v Fiji - 15k (Hull) Ton v Samoa/Fra - 13k (HJ) Potential SF Aus v NZ - 40k (Leeds) Eng v Ton - 60k (Emirates) Potential Final NZ/Aus v Eng - 70k (OT) TOTAL - 311,000 + 74,464 that have already attended = 385,464 There are a remaining 44 fixtures across mens, womens and wheelchair, they would need to average 4,200 to get a total aggregate of 570k. I think some of these numbers are optimistic now but they indicate that so very much is now riding on England performing. 7 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: ... Us fans in the south are being royally shafted at the men's world cup this time... ... And women's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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