RLWC - TV viewing figures

[Tommygilf]

3 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Oh but it does.

It does, but not for this tournament.

[The Masked Poster]

3 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Yeah but crowds blah yadda blah 

Still 17 games to go too, including 6 semis and 3 finals (with minimum 5, possibly 8 games involving English sides). Good stuff.

 

Yeah crowds. Those things that fill stadiums and enhance the experience for both attendees and TV viewers. The thing that the tournament has been sorely lacking. 

You are talking nonsense, the first thing that would strike a casual viewer of an important RLWC game was if the stadium was 2/3 empty.  

But yeah, you know best. 

[Man of Kent]

14 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

Yeah crowds. Those things that fill stadiums and enhance the experience for both attendees and TV viewers. The thing that the tournament has been sorely lacking. 

You are talking nonsense, the first thing that would strike a casual viewer of an important RLWC game was if the stadium was 2/3 empty.  

But yeah, you know best. 

How do you think I got hooked on rugby league?

It wasn’t because one day I randomly fancied driving up the M6 to take in a Widnes game or up the M1 to sample the delights of Belle Vue...

[The Masked Poster]

12 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

How do you think I got hooked on rugby league?

It wasn’t because one day I randomly fancied driving up the M6 to take in a Widnes game or up the M1 to sample the delights of Belle Vue...

You're the exception. If you weren't our games would be packed out nationwide. 

You're making the mistake of assuming because you like something, everyone else will act similar. I like plenty of minority interest stuff but that's me, not the masses. 

People may enjoy watching a RL game in an empty stadium but their overriding image will be of a game that's not very popular. It also makes it harder to sell to commercial partners too - perception can be everything. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by The Masked Poster

[Man of Kent]

16 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

You're the exception. If you weren't our games would be packed out nationwide. 

You're making the mistake of assuming because you like something, everyone else will act similar. I like plenty of minority interest stuff but that's me, not the masses. 

People may enjoy watching a RL game in an empty stadium but their overriding image will be of a game that's not very popular. It also makes it harder to sell to commercial partners too - perception can be everything. 

The big picture is this is the best TV coverage rugby league has ever had in this country.

Don’t get too hung up about the crowds, they are of secondary import. 

[Dave T]

16 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

The big picture is this is the best TV coverage rugby league has ever had in this country.

Don’t get too hung up about the crowds, they are of secondary import. 

We get millions of viewers every year on the BBC, we got millions of viewers in 2013 (13.3m in the UK). 

Getting £ value from it is proving a slow burner, which is fine, and we just have to go on that journey, but it is not going to instantly replace the millions of quid that we need to get from crowds, sponsors, grants etc. These things all need to be good. 

But these numbers are excellent and do show how important terrestrial tv coverage is, particularly the BBC. They have been a great partner. 

[The Masked Poster]

41 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

The big picture is this is the best TV coverage rugby league has ever had in this country.

Don’t get too hung up about the crowds, they are of secondary import. 

Don't talk ridiculous. Crowds are a very important part of the whole experience. 

It is great coverage yes but if a large percentage of those people watching are going to be given the impression that it's an unpopular sport that can't even attract big crowds in it's heartlands, then it's a negative.

If people didn't notice crowds they wouldn't take the pee out of Man City and call it the Emptyhad.  

Edited November 8, 2022 by The Masked Poster

[Man of Kent]

22 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

Don't talk ridiculous. Crowds are a very important part of the whole experience. 

It is great coverage yes but if a large percentage of those people watching are going to be given the impression that it's an unpopular sport that can't even attract big crowds in it's heartlands, then it's a negative.

If people didn't notice crowds they wouldn't take the pee out of Man City and call it the Emptyhad.  

Disagree. On a basic level, the 18.7 million who have watched the games hitherto on TV dwarfs the attendance figure. 

It’s not 1895. TV > attendances. 

[Mr Frisky]

1 hour ago, The Masked Poster said:

Yeah crowds. Those things that fill stadiums and enhance the experience for both attendees and TV viewers. The thing that the tournament has been sorely lacking. 

You are talking nonsense, the first thing that would strike a casual viewer of an important RLWC game was if the stadium was 2/3 empty.  

But yeah, you know best. 

Yet the 2022 crowds will have a bigger average than the 2017 tournament in Oz by the close of play so they are on an upwards trajectory. 

[The Masked Poster]

3 minutes ago, Mr Frisky said:

Yet the 2022 crowds will have a bigger average than the 2017 tournament in Oz by the close of play so they are on an upwards trajectory. 

That's some spin there mate. 

[The Masked Poster]

10 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Disagree. On a basic level, the 18.7 million who have watched the games hitherto on TV dwarfs the attendance figure. 

It’s not 1895. TV > attendances. 

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. 

[Man of Kent]

6 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. 

Why wrong? 18.7 million have watched these games and the really big ones are still to come.

The BBC are doing us proud. It’s the best advert for RL we could possibly hope for.

[Bedford Roughyed]

Viewers eh.... 

[The Masked Poster]

32 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Why wrong? 18.7 million have watched these games and the really big ones are still to come.

The BBC are doing us proud. It’s the best advert for RL we could possibly hope for.

So why are we going to the expense of playing the games in expensive to hire stadiums? Let's just play them on a field somewhere. They can still be televised because a crowd doesn't matter.

This isn't "either/or". Fantastic FTA coverage is great but it should be complimented by loud, lively crowds feeding a great atmosphere.

Pretty sure that if 23000 turned up to the Nou Camp one night, Barca would be asking questions regardless of their wealth. And people would notice. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by The Masked Poster

[The Masked Poster]

6 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Viewers eh.... 

What do you mean? 

[Man of Kent]

10 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Viewers eh.... 

That says so much about how the wheelchair game has caught fire through being on the Beeb. People who have seen it are blown away by it.

[Bedford Roughyed]

8 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

What do you mean? 

It means the BBC are extremely happy/surprised with the viewers/interest, and have such changed their schedule to accommodate.  

[Hello]

2 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

The big picture is this is the best TV coverage rugby league has ever had in this country.

Don’t get too hung up about the crowds, they are of secondary import. 

Says the man who went out of his way obsessively to comment on Toronto's crowds (even though they were very decent).  Contender for most hypocritical post I have read on any forum ever.

Edited November 8, 2022 by Hello

[Man of Kent]

3 minutes ago, Hello said:

Says the man who went out of his way obsessively to comment on Toronto's crowds (even though they were very decent).  Contender for most hypocritical post I have read on any forum ever.

Yep. You must be another one stuck in the 19th century 

[Tommygilf]

8 minutes ago, Hello said:

Says the man who went out of his way obsessively to comment on Toronto's crowds (even though they were very decent).  Contender for most hypocritical post I have read on any forum ever.

Quite an about face indeed!

[Dave T]

Looking at the videos posted on Twitter by RLWC it's interesting to see that the viral videos of the last 10 days are not the big hits, or the tries, or the fancy plays from the big mens games. 

1.4m for Samoa v Tonga pre-match

176k wheelchair action

141k wheelchair clip

110k for Fiji hymn

60k Fiji Hymn

40k Spain v Ireland wheelchair

32k England women

26k Princess of Wales

25k NZ women haka

25k Wheelchair rugby league clip

18k PNG try v Wales

 

 

[Hello]

12 minutes ago, Man of Kent said:

Yep. You must be another one stuck in the 19th century 

That reply to the point that I made totally makes sense, of course. 

Edited November 8, 2022 by Hello

[Mr Frisky]

38 minutes ago, The Masked Poster said:

So why are we going to the expense of playing the games in expensive to hire stadiums? Let's just play them on a field somewhere. They can still be televised because a crowd doesn't matter.

This isn't "either/or". Fantastic FTA coverage is great but it should be complimented by loud, lively crowds feeding a great atmosphere.

Pretty sure that if 23000 turned up to the Nou Camp one night, Barca would be asking questions regardless of their wealth. And people would notice. 

Wow, for a RL fan you sure do your best to hide it.

It was 32,000 in the Nou Camp by the way - not bad for a French and English team playing in a neutral venue in a different county.

[gingerjon]

53 minutes ago, Bedford Roughyed said:

Viewers eh.... 

Go woke, get extended and enhanced coverage.

[Man of Kent]

27 minutes ago, Hello said:

That reply to the point that I made totally makes sense, of course. 

Crowds don’t really matter compared to TV, chief. So last century but one.