RLWC - TV viewing figures

[Man of Kent]

Do we know the ratings for the three finals?

[Northern Eel]

8 hours ago, Man of Kent said:

Do we know the ratings for the three finals?

Not yet, but I would surprised if the Wheelchair final does not hit more than 1.5m.

[Leonard]

9 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:

Not yet, but I would surprised if the Wheelchair final does not hit more than 1.5m.

The RFL needs to move fast on Wheelchair and to find a way to monetise the numbers - not just letting BBC show it for nothing.

[Futtocks]

On 15/11/2022 at 14:18, gingerjon said:

Pretty much common like this in the UK now. For example, Monday Night Football on Sky (Premier League) runs from 7pm to 10.30pm with the match in the middle from 8pm to 10pm. But no break down within that in terms of programming.

There's almost certainly a much more detailed breakdown of the figures, but you'd have to pay for that level of detail.

[Chrispmartha]

21 minutes ago, Northern Eel said:

Not yet, but I would surprised if the Wheelchair final does not hit more than 1.5m.

Didn’t i read the wheelchair final got 2.5 million?

[Leonard]

6 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Didn’t i read the wheelchair final got 2.5 million?

That's a dream for most broadcasters - we'll bundle it with the Challenge Cup for £50k all in and think that is a good deal.

Because that is all they can be bothered to do.

[Leonard]

1 minute ago, ShropshireBull said:

If that happened it would be insane. You would have the scope for an annual competition with zero need for southern hemisphere. 

Which is why they need to crack on asap.

[Leonard]

1 minute ago, ShropshireBull said:

100% England France plus two others. Four nations , four weeks. C4 , give us your money. 

Yup - Group of 4 or even 5. Top two into final.

However, I would really like a 3 games series vs France for starters.

Bang that on Saturday night for 3 weeks in front of packed audiences.

 

[Northern Eel]

16 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Didn’t i read the wheelchair final got 2.5 million. Is that the one you are thinking of?

The Emirates Semi-final peaked at 2.5. Is that the one you are thinking of?

Edited November 21, 2022 by Northern Eel

[Dave T]

35 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Didn’t i read the wheelchair final got 2.5 million?

I think I recall Jenna saying to an England player that almost 2m watched the final, haven't seen anything official yet. 

Edited November 21, 2022 by Dave T

[Niels]

It doesn't help when our own presenters such as Tanya on Look North are only prepared to say it was a "marginal" success.

 

 

[The Rocket]

An incredible 617 000 people got up in the middle of the night in Oz to watch the WC Final between Australia and Samoa. Other Australian men`s matches averaged 97 000, prompting Wayne Bennett to come out and say :

“Let’s stop the bulls***,” Bennett fired, after learning 617,000 people had tuned into Fox Sports and Kayo in Australia alone to watch the World Cup final between the Kangaroos and Samoa.

“It’s not that complicated.

“Everyone needs to think about what is in the game’s best interests here.

“We have to acknowledge where international football is heading.

Wayne Bennett is now backing a State of Origin eligibility overhaul so World Cup heroes who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin in the future.

 

 

 

 

[gingerjon]

1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

An incredible 617 000 people got up in the middle of the night in Oz to watch the WC Final between Australia and Samoa. Other Australian men`s matches averaged 97 000, prompting Wayne Bennett to come out and say :

“Let’s stop the bulls***,” Bennett fired, after learning 617,000 people had tuned into Fox Sports and Kayo in Australia alone to watch the World Cup final between the Kangaroos and Samoa.

“It’s not that complicated.

“Everyone needs to think about what is in the game’s best interests here.

“We have to acknowledge where international football is heading.

Wayne Bennett is now backing a State of Origin eligibility overhaul so World Cup heroes who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin in the future.

 

 

 

 

Is that 617,000 watching at around 4am NSW time?

That is properly impressive.

[Man of Kent]

30 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Is that 617,000 watching at around 4am NSW time?

That is properly impressive.

And on the Aus equivalent of Sky, no?

[Mr Frisky]

42 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Is that 617,000 watching at around 4am NSW time?

That is properly impressive.

To be fair the Aussies arnt know for their education or intelligence and that includes basic counting.

They tend to lose track after they run out of fingers so they won't know if there were more than eight watching.

[Mojo]

1 hour ago, The Rocket said:

An incredible 617 000 people got up in the middle of the night in Oz to watch the WC Final between Australia and Samoa. Other Australian men`s matches averaged 97 000, prompting Wayne Bennett to come out and say :

“Let’s stop the bulls***,” Bennett fired, after learning 617,000 people had tuned into Fox Sports and Kayo in Australia alone to watch the World Cup final between the Kangaroos and Samoa.

“It’s not that complicated.

“Everyone needs to think about what is in the game’s best interests here.

“We have to acknowledge where international football is heading.

Wayne Bennett is now backing a State of Origin eligibility overhaul so World Cup heroes who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin in the future.

 

 

 

 

And everyone said a small nation like samoa making the final is bad for the game and it won't attract viewers. They were the most watched team in the world cup out of all the nations. The Kiwis needs to jump at this chance and play Samoa in Auckland. The Samoans in Nz are dying to watch the samoan team, it would be a sell 

[Dave T]

42 minutes ago, Mojo said:

And everyone said a small nation like samoa making the final is bad for the game and it won't attract viewers. They were the most watched team in the world cup out of all the nations. The Kiwis needs to jump at this chance and play Samoa in Auckland. The Samoans in Nz are dying to watch the samoan team, it would be a sell 

Who said that? 

[Leonard]

You would think an Eng tour to NZ with a game against Samoa, Tonga and NZ would sell very well (throw in a PNG game as well).

[Jim from Oz]

2 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Is that 617,000 watching at around 4am NSW time?

That is properly impressive.

The match started at 3am NSW time and 2am QLD time, as they are a bit backward and don't have daylight savings !

They are INCREDIBLE figures but I wonder if they include people who tuned in later via streaming?

BTW I watched it live on Kayo (streaming).

And yes, Fox Sports (and Kayo)  is the equivalent of UK Sky TV; it is NOT free-to-air.

There was no free-to-air coverage of the RLWC 2021(22) in Australia.

Hopefully those numbskulls at NINE will now sit up and take notice !!!!

Edited November 23, 2022 by Jim from Oz

[Jim from Oz]

3 hours ago, The Rocket said:

An incredible 617 000 people got up in the middle of the night in Oz to watch the WC Final between Australia and Samoa. Other Australian men`s matches averaged 97 000, prompting Wayne Bennett to come out and say :

“Let’s stop the bulls***,” Bennett fired, after learning 617,000 people had tuned into Fox Sports and Kayo in Australia alone to watch the World Cup final between the Kangaroos and Samoa.

“It’s not that complicated.

“Everyone needs to think about what is in the game’s best interests here.

“We have to acknowledge where international football is heading.

Wayne Bennett is now backing a State of Origin eligibility overhaul so World Cup heroes who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin in the future.

 

 

 

 

Rocket, that link doesn't work for me, any chance you could cut and paste it? Thanks !

[Jim from Oz]

3 hours ago, The Rocket said:

Wayne Bennett is now backing a State of Origin eligibility overhaul so World Cup heroes who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin in the future.

 

 

 

 

As players who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin now (it's the main criteria!!), I don't quite understand that statement …

[The Rocket]

10 minutes ago, Jim from Oz said:

Rocket, that link doesn't work for me, any chance you could cut and paste it? Thanks !

Try this mate,

Wayne Bennett is now backing a State of Origin eligibility overhaul so World Cup heroes who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin in the future.

It comes as the Queensland super coach also pointed to record World Cup TV ratings as a wake-up call to everyone standing in the way of the international game’s development.

“Let’s stop the bulls***,” Bennett fired, after learning 617,000 people had tuned into Fox Sports and Kayo in Australia alone to watch the World Cup final between the Kangaroos and Samoa.

It’s not that complicated.

“Everyone needs to think about what is in the game’s best interests here.

“We have to acknowledge where international football is heading.

READ MORE:Push for Origin eligibility change on cards

“We had more than 600,000 people who got up in the middle of the night to watch that game.

“That shows there is a market for it, and we are in the entertainment business.”

To put Australia’s World Cup TV ratings in perspective, the audience on Fox and Kayo for the final was about three times as many people who would get up to watch the US Masters golf tournament here, while the average for each men’s game was 97,000.

Over in England there was also record TV ratings on free-to-air. The semi-final between England and Samoa attracted 2.38 million viewers on the BBC, which was 21.2 per cent of the overall market, while more people than ever also tuned in on continents throughout the world.

The Rugby League World Cup Final between Australia and Samoa drew over 600,00 people to their screens. (Photo by Lewis Storey/Getty Images for RLWC)

Bennett concedes previously he was with the old school brigade who didn’t want anyone representing another tier one nation still to be eligible to play Origin.

But he’s now backing the calls for change on the strict proviso you still need to have grown up playing junior footy in Queensland and NSW.

The NRL is currently considering making an amendment if Samoa or Tonga are elevated to tier one nations.

Under the current rules if Samoa was to become a tier one nation the likes of Junior Paulo, Jarome Luai, Stephen Crichton and Brian To’o, as well as young Joseph Suaalii, would not be allowed to play Origin in the future.

It also rules out Victor Radley because he chose England because of his father’s heritage.

“What I’m saying is the criteria to play for Queensland and NSW must not change,” Bennett added.

“But what should change is that players should be available for selection for a whole lot of countries outside Australia.

“Victor Radley should be allowed to play for NSW and also play for England. But he will never play for Australia.

“He made that choice. But he still ticks all the boxes to play Origin because he grew up playing his football in NSW.

“What a lot of people seem to be struggling to understand is that these players like Junior Paulo and Jarome Luai and Brian To’o, they’ve all grown up in Sydney.

“So under the criteria as it is now they qualify for Origin.

“Then you have a bloke like Tom Burgess, who doesn’t tick the boxes, because Tom grew up in England. So he shouldn’t be playing Origin.

“Herbie Farnworth is another who doesn’t tick the boxes (because he didn’t move to Australia until his late teens).

“So the criteria stays the same in that respect.

“But we have to acknowledge where international football is heading.”

13 minutes ago, Jim from Oz said:

As players who grew up in Queensland and NSW are not blocked from playing Origin now (it's the main criteria!!), I don't quite understand that statement …

It`s all about the likes of Tonga and Samoa and other nations getting Tier One status. As the article says once those nations are declared Tier One the players mentioned won`t be able to play SOO. As long as those countries remain Tier Two they can play both.

[Damien]

2 hours ago, Mojo said:

And everyone said a small nation like samoa making the final is bad for the game and it won't attract viewers. They were the most watched team in the world cup out of all the nations. The Kiwis needs to jump at this chance and play Samoa in Auckland. The Samoans in Nz are dying to watch the samoan team, it would be a sell 

Literally no one said that.

[Mojo]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

Literally no one said that.

It's literally all over social media mate. 1.1m views across all games the most out of any nation

[Mojo]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

Literally no one said that.

There we're a few that posted in here before the final saying Samoa making the final over England is not gonna grow the game because they're a small nation, where as England making the final will grow the game more.