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Sat 12th Nov: RLWC SF: England v Samoa KO 14:30


Who will win?  

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  1. 1. Who will win?

    • England by 13 points or more
      62
    • England by 7 to 12 points
      47
    • England by 1 to 6 points
      11
    • Samoa by 1 to 6 points
      5
    • Samoa by 7 to 12 points
      2
    • Samoa by 13 points or more
      3

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Now let's waste the next dozen pages blaming Shaun Wane for England not playing to Shaun Wane's game plan. Plus demonising all the players who play for <insert name that isn't my club>.

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3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

First stiff opposition England have played since what, GB tour in 2019, and we were really poor.

That's a really decent observation.

If the RFL are serious about England winning then, firstly, England have to play more games and, secondly, they have to find a way of putting up enough money that the NRL will release players for full internationals more often.

I'm not optimistic.

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England really disappointing today, three mistakes at the end of the game really determined they weren't going to win:

1. Not going to ground on the last play of the second half thus giving George Williams a shot at a feld goal.

2. Dropped ball in golden point.

3. Forward pass in golden point.

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Just now, barnyia said:

By tomkins to welsby at the play the ball. 

But there was clearly no forward pass apart from the pass that was, erm, forward.

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Just now, gingerjon said:

That's a really decent observation.

If the RFL are serious about England winning then, firstly, England have to play more games and, secondly, they have to find a way of putting up enough money that the NRL will release players for full internationals more often.

I'm not optimistic.

Not a chance.

The oceania cup will be the main international comp outside of World Cups now, and there's more chance of Lebanon being invited to that than us.

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1 minute ago, The Masked Poster said:

Not here, I couldn't care less about other countries. I wanted England to win or nobody. 

My enemy's enemy doesn't do anything for me. 

Im not overly patriotic so can probably take some emotion out of it, Samoa getting to a world cup final is huge for our game

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2 minutes ago, DavidM said:

Welsby was really poor I’m afraid . Williams tried hard . Mcilorum , no idea what he was doing there 

McIlorum has no place at this level. Even earlier in the tournament when we played well he stuck out like a sore thumb. 

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Best team won. That was never a penalty on Tomkins. The officials did their best for us to get us through but we wasn't good enough. 

I think Phil Gould will say "He who laughs last, laughs longest" he certainly won't be getting tweeted by the England fans now like he did after the first game. 

Some young kids in there like Young and Welsby cracked with the pressure but they have the time on their hands and can only gain experience from that. I feel sorry for the older guys like Tomkins, Whitehead and Hill who's time is over. 

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1 minute ago, DavidM said:

Welsby was really poor I’m afraid . Williams tried hard . Mcilorum , no idea what he was doing there 

To be fair I think there’s only Makinson, Farnworth, Whitehead and Bateman who played anywhere near what they’re capable of. The rest were either below average or poor including the two young guns of Young and Welsby who were both lacking composure at key times today.

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