Sat 19 Nov: Women's RLWC Final: Australia v New Zealand KO 1.15pm

[Iceberg Slim]

2 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

I don’t disagree Leonard, I was just saying that the Jillaroos will dominate the women’s game certainly in the way the Kangaroos did in the 1970s to the 1990s IMO. 

I think athletically as athletes yes. I think it’s more to do with the state leagues as well. 
 

Nswrl and qrl both got 20 million each to run their programs for grassroots from nrl. 
 

nzrl got 250k from nrl for whatever reason. 
 

that isn’t a reflection of the women’s game but the whole game and I’m telling you the NZRL are broke. That’s essentially 40 million to 250k that tells you were light years apart in terms of being able to compete at grassroots level and international pathways. 
 

the way we circumvent this issue is aussie scouts take our talent and develop it in australia similar to nrl but yet again we will have the same issues as the men once women’s origin is viewed as the pinnacle and once our younger talent becomes eligible for origin you will see them then play for the jillaroos which again limits the kiwis to keeping their top talent. 
 

it’s an unfortunate reality but until some billionaire investor can give us 40 million a year to build our programs nothing much will change. 
 

we have the talent as you see with the black ferns but rugby league in nz is broke. 

[YCKonstantine]

Did he give the bloke a kiss on the cheek too?

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Iceberg Slim said:

I think athletically as athletes yes. I think it’s more to do with the state leagues as well. 
 

Nswrl and qrl both got 20 million each to run their programs for grassroots from nrl. 
 

nzrl got 250k from nrl for whatever reason. 
 

that isn’t a reflection of the women’s game but the whole game and I’m telling you the NZRL are broke. That’s essentially 40 million to 250k that tells you were light years apart in terms of being able to compete at grassroots level and international pathways. 
 

the way we circumvent this issue is aussie scouts take our talent and develop it in australia similar to nrl but yet again we will have the same issues as the men once women’s origin is viewed as the pinnacle and once our younger talent becomes eligible for origin you will see them then play for the jillaroos which again limits the kiwis to keeping their top talent. 
 

it’s an unfortunate reality but until some billionaire investor can give us 40 million a year to build our programs nothing much will change. 
 

we have the talent as you see with the black ferns but rugby league in nz is broke. 

That's why they need to tour GB !

[Gomersall]

6 minutes ago, Leonard said:

Yes - and fair play to them.

But, to me at least, smacks a bit of Ireland getting excited about winning a hurling or Gaelic football world cup.

However, it's up to other countries to play the women's game and to challenge them. But that could be decades away outside of England and NZ.

To be fair only Ireland play GAA games to any decent level AFAIA.

[StandOffHalf]

Bit presumptuous and hetero-normative for Troy Grant to be kissing all the Jillaroos on the cheeks as he presents the medals.

It might be a tad unwanted for bisexual or lesbian players such as Brigginshaw, who didn't seem all that keen as he pulled her towards him to plant a smacker on her cheek.

I think he should ask the players individually.

Edited November 19, 2022 by StandOffHalf

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, StandOffHalf said:

Bit presumptuous and hetero-normative for Troy Grant to be kissing all the Jillaroos on the cheeks as he presents the medals.

It might be a tad unwanted for bisexual or lesbian players such as Brigginshaw, who didn't seem all that keen as he pulled her towards him to plant a smacker on her cheek.

I think he should ask the players individually.

It looked weird and uncomfortable 

[Chrispmartha]

Lovely interview with Sammy Bremner

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Gomersall said:

To be fair only Ireland play GAA games to any decent level AFAIA.

Completely agree. Women's RL is not much better off - albeit improving.

[Dave T]

What a beautiful interview. 

[Gomersall]

3 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:

Bit presumptuous and hetero-normative for Troy Grant to be kissing all the Jillaroos on the cheeks as he presents the medals.

It might be a tad unwanted for bisexual or lesbian players such as Brigginshaw, who didn't seem all that keen as he pulled her towards him to plant a smacker on her cheek.

I think he should ask the players individually.

Without going off topic, give over.

[Iceberg Slim]

5 minutes ago, Leonard said:

That's why they need to tour GB !

Don’t have the money mate lol 

[Dave T]

3 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:

Bit presumptuous and hetero-normative for Troy Grant to be kissing all the Jillaroos on the cheeks as he presents the medals.

It might be a tad unwanted for bisexual or lesbian players such as Brigginshaw, who didn't seem all that keen as he pulled her towards him to plant a smacker on her cheek.

I think he should ask the players individually.

I'm not sure of the relevance of lesbian and bisexual players, but I did find it odd. 

Grant does appear to be tactile, he hugged all the wheelchair players last night. 

It did jar a bit tbh 

[Chrispmartha]

Just like the Wheelchair game the Women’s game has been absolutely brilliant in this WC I just hope we can capitalise on it

[17 stone giant]

Congrats to the Jillaroos. They are a fantastic RL team and fantastic ambassadors for the sport. I hope we can see them playing in England outside of World Cups.

[Chrispmartha]

Also im not a huge fan of double headers but I think its worked well in this instance, Im sure the players would prefer to be playing st Old Trafford rather than a smaller ground

[StandOffHalf]

2 minutes ago, Dave T said:

I'm not sure of the relevance of lesbian and bisexual players, but I did find it odd. 

Grant does appear to be tactile, he hugged all the wheelchair players last night. 

It did jar a bit tbh 

Tactile, I like that word.

[Dunbar]

Despite being massive underdogs, I would love to see Emgland play the Jillaroos. A three match series would be great.

They didn't match the Kiwis power in the semi but I would love to see some of our athletes test themselves againt the best in the world.  

[sentoffagain2]

  Aussies to strong,fast and clinical.Kiwis far below their best but the Aussies are different class think they would have beaten England easily on today's form.I thought the referee had a good game she didn't miss much.I was impressed with her handling of the England v Greece game.

[Gomersall]

2 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:

Tactile, I like that word.

I like irascible myself.

[Futtocks]

7 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:

Tactile, I like that word.

Sounds better than "gropey".

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Iceberg Slim said:

Don’t have the money mate lol 

Hopefully we make money and pay you - but this is the RFL we would be relying upon.

[Iceberg Slim]

3 minutes ago, Leonard said:

Hopefully we make money and pay you - but this is the RFL we would be relying upon.

We are massively dependant on the rfl and nrl to do anything. They are the only ones with professional leagues. Unfortunately as you can see we get hard a cent from the nrl for our grassroots programs and there’s no rules in place that we can get money from them when they scout in nz. It’s a free market and people will go where the money is just like the amount of kiwi expats in aus. It’s where the money is. 

[Gomersall]

10 minutes ago, Futtocks said:

Sounds better than "gropey".

Wasn’t he a friend of Snow White?

[Futtocks]

Just now, Gomersall said:

Wasn’t he a friend of Snow White?

After Grumpy and Dopey accidentally stepped into the teleporter from The Fly, Snow White started to feel nostalgic for the days when all she had to worry about was an evil Witch-Queen.

[Man of Kent]

Sat near the Kiwi Ferns bench and after the game the captain Krystal Rota came up the stand to see her family.

She gave her little daughter - who has a serious health issue - what might be the longest hug in the history of the world. A mix of happiness to see her and the sadness of losing the match. It was so moving I felt like crying.