Pulga Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 25% increase. Now 3X the Super League salary cap. https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/12/23/nrl-announces-record-high-salary-caps-for-2023-season/ NRLW is now $884,000 (+153%) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pulga said: 25% increase. Now 3X the Super League salary cap. https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/12/23/nrl-announces-record-high-salary-caps-for-2023-season/ NRLW is now $884,000 (+153%) Great news for RL down under and obviously for the players. Dont understand why it quotes two sets of figures at $11.45 million and $12.1 million? edit. Just read the article again and seen that the additional $650k is for development contracts. Edited December 23, 2022 by Tosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copa Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 That’s good steady growth for the women. I hope the new NRLW deal still includes 2 marquee players per team. It’ll probably be a few million in the not too distant future. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Would be interesting to see if this significant salary cap increase would see a shift in policy of NRL clubs targeting Super rugby Union players from Australia, NZ and the pacific but especially from New Zealand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulga Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Tosh said: Would be interesting to see if this significant salary cap increase would see a shift in policy of NRL clubs targeting Super rugby Union players from Australia, NZ and the pacific but especially from New Zealand? Without starting anything, I don't think there are any Super Rugby players NRL clubs would want that they don't already have. Australian Union players are more and more just guys who aren't good enough for League. NZ has the pull if the All Blacks jersey still but that is fading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, Tosh said: Would be interesting to see if this significant salary cap increase would see a shift in policy of NRL clubs targeting Super rugby Union players from Australia, NZ and the pacific but especially from New Zealand? NRL news 2022: The Mole, Wests Tigers sign Ben Houston from rugby union (nine.com.au) "The Tigers may have pulled off a coup by snaring the captain of the famous Randwick rugby union club. Ben Houston, a big, mobile prop or second-rower, made the most tackles in the Shute Shield last season and has decided to try his hand at league. His loss will be seen as a blow in rugby - only two months ago Waratahs head coach Darren Coleman invited Houston to join his squad." Probably see more of this kind of thing, NRL clubs being able to afford to take more chances on union players they think may make the switch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pulga said: Without starting anything, I don't think there are any Super Rugby players NRL clubs would want that they don't already have. Australian Union players are more and more just guys who aren't good enough for League. NZ has the pull if the All Blacks jersey still but that is fading. NZ rugby Union has some terrific talent that could make the grade in the NRL as does Fiji. Dont think the pull of the AB’s jersey is fading but the appeal of super rugby definitely is fading and fading fast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Rocket said: NRL news 2022: The Mole, Wests Tigers sign Ben Houston from rugby union (nine.com.au) "The Tigers may have pulled off a coup by snaring the captain of the famous Randwick rugby union club. Ben Houston, a big, mobile prop or second-rower, made the most tackles in the Shute Shield last season and has decided to try his hand at league. His loss will be seen as a blow in rugby - only two months ago Waratahs head coach Darren Coleman invited Houston to join his squad." Probably see more of this kind of thing, NRL clubs being able to afford to take more chances on union players they think may make the switch. I agree that we will probably see more and more Union players targeted at lower levels compared to the more established players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-2022-the-mole-jeral-skelton-canterbury-bulldogs/a83236b4-054d-4f8d-ad6c-731b1f6314f4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Could also see the early return of RTS back to league which would be another positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomersall Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 A minimum wage for the 30 man squad of $120,000 (approx £66,000). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Gomersall said: A minimum wage for the 30 man squad of $120,000 (approx £66,000). Didn't the UK clubs vote to reduce ours to less than £15,000? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommygilf Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Talent drain from Super League will likely continue as per recent trends. By the same token will less players come to England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 I think it's great news. An increasing salary cap is the sign of a healthy and vibrant competition. That level of salary cap is also more than enough to attract the premier rugby talent in the Pacific and make RL the game of choice. It is also very competitive with any rugby competition in the world, many of which are seeing declining salary caps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxford Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Talent drain from Super League will likely continue as per recent trends. By the same token will less players come to England? Yes that's what an insular model and business plan looks like and achieves. Then NRL clubs won't release any English players for internationals if it doesn't suit and then they'll decide England are not good enough to play against. It's the Downunder version of ever decreasing circles. 2 warning points Non-Political Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rocket Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Pulga said: 25% increase. Now 3X the Super League salary cap. https://www.nrl.com/news/2022/12/23/nrl-announces-record-high-salary-caps-for-2023-season/ NRLW is now $884,000 (+153%) There`s been a lot of people saying the NRL would be better off spending the money directly on junior development and/or ploughing more money into N.Z., Western Australia etc. and you`d have to think they might have a point. However this announcement seems to follow the template that V`landy`s has so successfully used in his role of CEO of N.S.W. Racing, i.e. reward the participants, with record investment in that sport in N.S.W. I suppose the thinking goes somewhat along the lines of bigger, richer clubs with bigger richer players will attract more investment in their own right. People and businesses see these headlines and see a flourishing code and want to get on board. Recent multi-million dollar sponsorship tie-ups with banking giant Westpac and only days ago with a 3 year $10 million deal with Korean car manufacturing giant Kia suggest something is working. As Abdo says " we`re looking for a tie-up with a major supermarket chain and health insurance company next." Edited December 23, 2022 by The Rocket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 The RLPA aren't happy though. Im not sure the big issue as this is a healthy increase to give clubs some clarity for next season while negotiations are ongoing for the CBA: It sets the scene for a tense meeting between the NRL and RLPA when they are expected to resume talks in the new year, with the players' union accusing head office of undermining their attempts to strike agreement on the CBA. "To announce new salary caps for players without their agreement and bypassing their association is unprecedented," RLPA chair Deidre Anderson said. "To the best of our knowledge, clubs were also not provided with the details of the new salary caps and player payment structure until approximately five minutes before the ARLC's public announcement. "For a governing body to set its own salary cap disrespects the entire player representation movement and the importance of collective bargaining. "Today's announcement goes against negotiating in good faith and only damages the trust between the players and the governing body." The RLPA say they only received an "185-word financial proposal" on Wednesday which related to all player payments and benefits with a deadline to respond on Thursday. https://www.examiner.com.au/story/8030621/rlpa-slam-nrl-over-salary-cap-increase/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Talent drain from Super League will likely continue as per recent trends. By the same token will less players come to England? There will always be a large pool of players to come to England. They will just be players of a progressively worse standard, as we have seen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmduck Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Didn't the UK clubs vote to reduce ours to less than £15,000? That's horrendous. I get 17K GBP just on the Age Pension and I don't have to go to training or get injured or do drug tests. 5 minutes ago, Oxford said: Yes that's what an insular model and business plan looks like and achieves. Then NRL clubs won't release any English players for internationals if it doesn't suit and then they'll decide England are not good enough to play against. It's the Downunder version of ever decreasing circles. So NRL players should be paid less to help the Brit game? Interesting take. Also why would it matter whether the 5 or 6 Brit players of international standard in the NRL were released? Can't England beat France or Wales without them? Some might look at this as an opportunity for fringe ENG squad players to get a run in the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerjon Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 29 minutes ago, Tommygilf said: Didn't the UK clubs vote to reduce ours to less than £15,000? Wasn't that a temporary thing done during Covid? (i.e. related to a shorter season?) Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulga Posted December 23, 2022 Author Share Posted December 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Oxford said: Yes that's what an insular model and business plan looks like and achieves. Then NRL clubs won't release any English players for internationals if it doesn't suit and then they'll decide England are not good enough to play against. It's the Downunder version of ever decreasing circles. Just spitballing here but maybe if enough English players were in the NRL we might see the men's English squad almost being an NRL property in the same way Samoa and Tonga almost are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2010 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Damien said: There will always be a large pool of players to come to England. They will just be players of a progressively worse standard, as we have seen. That's the issue. SL clubs signing players who aren't good enough to play in the NRL instead of developing their own players 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Damien said: I think it's great news. An increasing salary cap is the sign of a healthy and vibrant competition. That level of salary cap is also more than enough to attract the premier rugby talent in the Pacific and make RL the game of choice. It is also very competitive with any rugby competition in the world, many of which are seeing declining salary caps. Factor in the standard of living and climate in Australia and you’ve arguably got the best domestic rugby competition on the planet with maybe the top14 competition in France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madrileño Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Tommygilf said: Didn't the UK clubs vote to reduce ours to less than £15,000? Yet there is a guy on here who friskily tells us the 2 leagues are not that far apart in level, and sulks whenever someone points out that the blatant gulf. #deluded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tosh Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 With the record amount of investment within the NRL on top of the record salary cap the game would be missing a trick in not trying to sew up the pacific region and making a bigger play in the NZ market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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