Man of Steel Voting

[sam4731]

I know that the Man of Steel voting system has only recently changed and we're always moaning about things changing but I do think the current system is flawed.

- It favours players for who play for teams that are reliant on them (i.e. one man teams).

- It gives the same amount of points regardless of the team you are playing. You get 3 points for being the standout player against Wigan and against Wakefield)

- It is judged differently for every game based on which panel member is evaluating the game, meaning sending a different panel member to each game could result in a completely different result.

-Former players on the panel and the lack of transparency on which panel member was judging the game, opens up the problem of potential bias.

 

Solution: The end of season vote was a good idea. Giving that vote to the players was what was wrong. A 3-2-1 point system at the end of the season given to; the head coach, the captain and a media representative (local paper) for each club. Obviously teams wouldn't be allowed to vote for there own players.

 

Thoughts?

[RigbyLuger]

Do local papers still exist?

We have the current mess thanks to some players taking the Mickey, and, if we stick with this, don't actually make any fuss about the "legends" who are scoring the games as it seems to be kept secret.

[GUBRATS]

The MOM and therefore the MOS voting all went to pot because Stevo just constantly gave it to one of the hookers , it's like kids teams having top tackler , unsurprisingly it was almost always a player in the middle who would win it , the hooker touches the ball more than anybody else , therefore can appear to have the most influence 

[sam4731]

1 minute ago, GUBRATS said:

The MOM and therefore the MOS voting all went to pot because Stevo just constantly gave it to one of the hookers , it's like kids teams having top tackler , unsurprisingly it was almost always a player in the middle who would win it , the hooker touches the ball more than anybody else , therefore can appear to have the most influence 

To be honest, I don't think any system is likely to produce too many props as MOS. Its unfortunate but the fact is, it just isn't a box office position most of the time.

[gingerjon]

3 hours ago, sam4731 said:

- It favours players for who play for teams that are reliant on them (i.e. one man teams).

Isn't a team being disproportionately dependent on a player a good indicator that they are a good MoS candidate?

[BadlyOverdrawnBoy]

4 hours ago, sam4731 said:

You get 3 points for being the standout player against Wigan and against Wakefield)

Or even Leigh.

(Every thread seems to involve Leigh at some stage so it's my turn to start it, for the first and last time).

[SalfordSlim]

Genuine question OP.

Who do you support?

Edited January 22, 2023 by SalfordSlim

[BadlyOverdrawnBoy]

15 minutes ago, SalfordSlim said:

Wo do you support?

Labour 

[Jughead]

I don’t like the current system and quite liked the old system but it was left open to “abuse”, which it was abused by the players. I know there was anger about players voting for their mates or just picking anyone (I’m sure Danny Addy got a vote one year despite missing the whole year through injury) but I don’t think it ever really made the award a mockery by who won it, as it was usually a deserving winner. 

I don’t like the current system because we tend to see a sympathy point handed out to a player on the losing side, regardless of the margin of defeat. There’s been some relative blowouts in the past that have seen a point handed out when you could have made a case for 5-6 of the winning teams squad for their contribution. That said, it’s not really caused for any controversy. 

There’s not really an ideal way of doing it.

[sam4731]

59 minutes ago, SalfordSlim said:

Genuine question OP.

Who do you support?

Saints, which is probably a common complaint amongst our fans given hhat we don't seem to win it often.

[SalfordSlim]

1 hour ago, sam4731 said:

Saints, which is probably a common complaint amongst our fans given hhat we don't seem to win it often.

Yup as I thought. It's usually Wigan or Saints fans complaining because "players from sh*t teams have an advantage because they only have one or 2 good players that get all the votes". I mean it's disgraceful that in the last 45 years Wigan & Saints have only won it 20 times between themselves.

God forbid you lot ever have to watch a sh*t team week in week out... you'd really have something to moan about.

 

[Eddie]

22 hours ago, BadlyOverdrawnBoy said:

Or even Leigh.

(Every thread seems to involve Leigh at some stage so it's my turn to start it, for the first and last time).

They’re the new Toronto Wolfpack. 

[JohnM]

Here's how it should work.

[HullWire]

That would certainly work to keep it secret until the end, as the wave function would only collapse and resolve once the result was observed by opening the enverlope

[Saint Toppy]

Any voting system based purely on 'opinion' is always going to cause controversy. Personally i'd have a 'Dual' system where MOS points are allocated on an 'opinion voting' as we have now and also on a 'performance measured' system, a bit like the VB hard earned index they have in the NRL. So your overall MOS score is based on 50% opinion voting and 50% measurable performance.

That way players who aren't necessarily the commentators 'favourites' wont always win MOS, players who consistently make large numbers of tackles, tackle busts, Hit-ups, offloads etc. will pick up MOS points week after week.