Big New Ideas for the Overall World Cup System

[Rethink]

What would it be like if one month of the year in this sport worldwide were devoted only to a new Global Trophy of Rugby League, a tiered ladder system, in which we have one team from each Local Govt Area in NSW (or let's say one each for its 40 biggest population LGAs and the rest come into north, central and south alliances). Each LGA team is to contain only the best players among those who have slept more nights in this LGA than in any other. We would also set up approx'ly 38 equally carved out to be evenly matched region teams for the rest of Australia and one participating team per other country in the world all competing for a place in the global top ten and better....

 

Two options A or B

 

Option A is we set up a world ladder system where,

In year 1, 3,5, 7 … teams currently ranked 1-6 compete in Pool A,

teams currently ranked 4-10 compete in Pool B,

teams currently ranked 11-14 compete in Pool C,

teams currently ranked 15-18 compete in Pool D,

teams currently ranked 19-22 compete in Pool E,

and all other teams compete in regional qualifying contests with a chance to win a place in the top 28

(bearing in mind that we could gather tons of good salary and attendance figures data to properly pre-seed each team in the rankings) 

and in Years 2,4,6,8,….  (even number years)

teams currently ranked 1-4 compete in Pool A,

teams currently ranked 5-8 compete in Pool B,

teams currently ranked 9-12 compete in Pool C,

teams currently ranked 13-16 compete in Pool D,

teams currently ranked 17-20 compete in Pool E,

and all others who qualified to play in Pool F (21-28, consisting of six who advanced up from the regional

and continental qualifying events and two who came in from the 19-22 pool E.

 

 Please discuss this concept for potential use in country teams, LGA teams and club teams levels of rugby league play.

 

 

Option B is that instead of separating teams of different skill category levels out,

We split only the one top country & club team up, into three new remit zones, creating boundaries within these countries and hope for a more exciting outcome:

 

For example we decide that instead of playing a team Australia who is so much better that it spoils everyone else's chances too much, we instead enter a Team NSW, a Team Queensland and a Team Rest of Australia (VicWA if we name it after its two largest components).

Or maybe we decide instead that NZ will be split into five, England will be split into 20, New South Wales will be split into 15 and the rest of Australia will be split into 15 teams,

Each with a bit of land to call its own and each competing for a place in the lucrative world cup finals, and in the home continent’s championships.

 

 

So how do we best go about splitting NZ five? England into 20? NSW into 15? and the rest of Australia into 15 teams?

Well, that’s a very tough one to answer particularly well, but I believe in using the local govt areas as they come, as these are boundaries that already exist,

Are very clear on where they are, and already mean something, plus each local govt area already has a widely accepted and well-established name.

 

There are other ways this could be done, but how about we consider working out which three of NZ’s regions have the best line-up of players to utilise,

And these three each get a team of their own, while the rest of North Island, and then the rest of the country (to consist mostly of allied South Island regions) then makes the 5^th and final NZ team.

 

Each region team uses the name of the region as the team name, and each rest of … alliance area uses a mixture of its two most populous component regions as its team name.

In working out which regions of NZ and which LGAs of England and NSW to choose as a top area, I think we should go for a split of data obtained and gathered that unites three studies into one by approximately 4% being the population figure of the area in question; 49% being the cumulative player pay of the top ten potential signings from this region and 47% being the sum of the five highest attendance figures for each player over the past three years (in which the number of viewers in the stadium + 10% of estimated TV and streaming viewers are added up), thus arriving as a solidly convincing system of finding which regions are most likely to perform well if given a team of its own.

 

The task of splitting England into 20 is tricky, as England has nine regions, 47 police force areas, 148 main council areas (referring to the boroughs, shires and unitary areas) and 309 districts. I propose to use all four (each with a full 49%+47%+4% analysis of data) in deciding which parts of England to put under which team. The top 10 districts by expected team strength as calculated using the 49% player wages + 47% attendance figures + 4% raw population analysis of data formula are each chosen and are each given their own team, leaving 10 remit area left to allocate. We then remove the areas we have already chosen from the regions’ scores and give the top 3 main council areas each a team of their own, plus then the top 3 police force areas among those ranked areas who do not yet a team of their own, then we give the three top regions a team each (so if your district and your region both have a team, the remit area of the region excludes the district that has its own team and united the rest of the wider region into one team remit area) and the rest of the regions automatically go into a rest of England catch-all alliance of weaker areas team. These 20 teams would then compete against each other year after year, and only after seven years do we look into making one further change, which splits up the strongest region or county team into two remit areas and unites two of the weakest areas into one).

 

Splitting NSW into 15 is fairly straight-forward, once we have the required 49% player wages + 47% attendance figures + 4% raw population analysis of data formula data, as the top 12 local government areas can each be identified and be given a team of their own, and the rest of NSW will be split into three catch-all alliance areas North Central and South with the boundaries set in such a way that each one of them contains five of the NSW LGAs ranked 13-27.

 

And splitting the rest of Australia into 15 is certainly a matter for wider debate and a matter that requires further data before proceeding. Once we have gathered our 49%+47%+4% data for all the states and territories and for all Queensland LGAs we then give the top 12 on this list each a team of their own, and we then also do a rest of Queensland alliance team, a rest of Australia alliance team and a 15^th team that might either have been the next state or territory of Australia on down, but why, if it is certain to lose all its games?  OR it could be and is far more likely to be stronger and better chosen as being the top 25% of the number one area from our list of all the states and territories and for all Queensland LGAs ranked using the 49%+47%+4% data, and by this I mean we simply stamp an X through the middle of the top LGA area or state thus splitting it into North, South, East and West, and one of these four will then be chosen to be a separate team of its own, departing out of the remit area it might otherwise have been in, which will now consist only of the other three parts. This wise approach ensures that we end up with no obvious strong favourite to be the winner among these 15 teams every year, thus improving the quality, excitement, viewability and the evenness of the competition greatly. If for example Victoria comes up as number one (above Brisbane and the others), which it might or might not, we would allocate each full LGA of Victoria according to which side of the X each LGA’s majority sits, thus keeping each LGA area undivided and bringing in rounded lines rather than straight lines as the barriers between the NSEW 4.

 

 

What about France, Fiji, Tonga and PNG? Well, these could also be split up in later years if any one of them proves to be too dominant to be beatable by any other team. I would say let’s keep them all with one team per full country initially, and then, if any one of these has won the world cup three of four consecutive times or more, it will then be split into two remit areas from then onwards, with its top region or province being ‘boundaried off’ from the rest of the country. The same also goes for all the newly created NZ, Eng, NSW and other teams: if any one of them wins three of the first four world cups or three of any four however you row it up, we then give its best 25% NSEorW using our 49%+47%+4% data a team of its own. This way, the competition gets more and more evenly matched, close, exciting and open to new winners as it progresses.

 

 

 

[Jughead]

My head hurts. 

[Gerrumonside ref]

The font got so big that I thought I was at the opticians at one point.

[Ragingbull]

No chance am i reading all that.  Someone has wasted a lot of time and effort creating that post for nothing

Edited January 28, 2023 by Ragingbull

[DI Keith Fowler]

Martyn just post this under your own name come on. 

[welshmagpie]

I have no idea what has just happened in my brain but call me confused. 

[Dunbar]

3 hours ago, Rethink said:

Each LGA team is to contain only the best players among those who have slept more nights in this LGA than in any other.

We have done the eligibility chat to death over the years but I think this is a new one.

[hw88]

Sorry mate, that is a non-starter.

Australia are the best, it is up to us to rise to their standard not to split them up into different states.

PS Reduce the font size!

[Man of Kent]

How about the Waistby League World Cup? 

It’s like the Rugby League World Cup but different countries can tackle different parts of the body.

Tier 2 countries can tackle below chest height. Tier 1 nations below the waist. 

Being top nation, Australia can only tackle below the ankle. 

[Bedfordshire Bronco]

Big font

[Veridical]

Aye, could do.

Edited January 29, 2023 by Veridical

[thebrewxi]

Mornington Crescent!

Edited January 29, 2023 by thebrewxi

[RP London]

Can we bring the start of the leagues forward a week please..  that should stop these sorts of posts..