Wakefield pitch

[graveyard johnny]

10 hours ago, GUBRATS said:

They are less prone to wear , and you can ( providing you look after them ) get more usage out of them 

said the salesman from the hybrid pitch company

[GUBRATS]

14 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

said the salesman from the hybrid pitch company

, They are better , but with this particular type you need time to establish them 

[graveyard johnny]

6 minutes ago, GUBRATS said:

, They are better , but with this particular type you need time to establish them 

said the salesman from the hybrid pitch company when Wakey rang him and said they weren't happy with it

Edited March 17, 2023 by graveyard johnny

[GUBRATS]

33 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

said the salesman from the hybrid pitch company when Wakey rang him and said they weren't happy with it

As I explained way way back Johnny , 2 types of hybrid 

[PREPOSTEROUS]

Trinity social media outlets pushing the game this Friday so presumably the brave souls who put themselves in danger to inspect the pitch this morning have survived and deemed it appropriate to play on. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 20, 2023 by PREPOSTEROUS

[Agbrigg]

On 20/03/2023 at 11:45, PREPOSTEROUS said:

Trinity social media outlets pushing the game this Friday so presumably the brave souls who put themselves in danger to inspect the pitch this morning have survived and deemed it appropriate to play on. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its on confirmed today. I suppose if you have 4 players unavailable with HIA protocol ,it was worth a try to get the game cancelled. 

After all you would not want any more injuries on such a dangerous pitch.

[DimmestStar]

[DimmestStar]

Jorge Taufua at HT v Huddersfield.

[Agbrigg]

Those photos look bad, I think your coach needs to send your reserve team Friday night, better not to risk Your best players

Edited March 21, 2023 by Agbrigg

[tonyXIII]

The injuries look painful, but not life-threatening. Something to be avoided if at all possible.

This got me thinking about American Football. They have decades of experience with artificial playing surfaces, so must know a thing or two. Their players wear knee-length "shorts", which must mitigate these injuries. (I think they pre-date AstroTurf, tbh.)

Is it possible for RL players to wear similar when playing at Belle Vue. Are they permitted? Do they pose a different risk of injury? Anybody know?

[Harry Stottle]

All the players who go over the white line onto Wakefield's paddock should be dressed like Rodney in Fools and Horses when he was skateboarding, helmet, knee and elbow protection.

[RP London]

2 hours ago, tonyXIII said:

The injuries look painful, but not life-threatening. Something to be avoided if at all possible.

This got me thinking about American Football. They have decades of experience with artificial playing surfaces, so must know a thing or two. Their players wear knee-length "shorts", which must mitigate these injuries. (I think they pre-date AstroTurf, tbh.)

Is it possible for RL players to wear similar when playing at Belle Vue. Are they permitted? Do they pose a different risk of injury? Anybody know?

Knee length but not knee covering.

They don't tend to get tackled as much or hit the ground in a sliding motion as much.. they also spend a lot more on their grounds and have the best stuff... saracens etc don't seem to have a big issue neither do many others with similar or more artificial grounds..  its because wakey did it on the cheap and didn't get in the needed extras to make the actual grass grow! It really is that simple. 

Anything that is knee covering will simply stop it happening the first time, second time you have already gone through the covering so you're back to bare knees

Edited March 22, 2023 by RP London

[dboy]

55 minutes ago, RP London said:

Knee length but not knee covering.

They don't tend to get tackled as much or hit the ground in a sliding motion as much.. they also spend a lot more on their grounds and have the best stuff... saracens etc don't seem to have a big issue neither do many others with similar or more artificial grounds..  its because wakey did it on the cheap and didn't get in the needed extras to make the actual grass grow! It really is that simple. 

Anything that is knee covering will simply stop it happening the first time, second time you have already gone through the covering so you're back to bare knees

How much did Wakey spend on the pitch and what are the "needed extras" that they didn't get in to make the grass grow?

[Tommygilf]

45 minutes ago, dboy said:

How much did Wakey spend on the pitch and what are the "needed extras" that they didn't get in to make the grass grow?

The grow lamps, or rather lack of, appear to be a clear misstep by the club. This problem is entirely down to their not being enough natural grass there.

[dboy]

10 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

The grow lamps, or rather lack of, appear to be a clear misstep by the club. This problem is entirely down to their not being enough natural grass there.

Yes, I understand the lamps would have been helped, but are they an essential requirement that the club have failed to purchase/hire?

[OMEGA]

The issue has been caused by overuse too early in the growing process, nothing more, nothing less!

The new pitch itself is a state of the art Hybrid 90%/95% grass and is the same grading as Manchester City’s stadium and training pitches. There was no scrimping on the quality or scraping on the “extras”

The problems have been 100% caused by certain club officials thinking they knew better and deciding to play 3 pre season friendliest on it, against the advice of the supplier/installers. They’ve also trained on it too much again, against the advice of the supplier/installers.

 

[dboy]

1 minute ago, OMEGA said:

The issue has been caused by overuse too early in the growing process, nothing more, nothing less!

The new pitch itself is a state of the art Hybrid 90%/95% grass and is the same grading as Manchester City’s stadium and training pitches. There was no scrimping on the quality or scraping on the “extras”

The problems have been 100% caused by certain club officials thinking they knew better and deciding to play 3 pre season friendliest on it, against the advice of the supplier/installers. They’ve also trained on it too much again, against the advice of the supplier/installers.

 

I tend to agree that it was the training aspects of over-use, but I'm sure it could take the games and haven't seen anything from suppliers/installers - is it just your opinion, or have you some tangible evidence/links?

[Tommygilf]

7 minutes ago, dboy said:

Yes, I understand the lamps would have been helped, but are they an essential requirement that the club have failed to purchase/hire?

If (enough of) the grass isn't there, I'd suggest it's nearly as bad as not buying the seed in the first place given the timescales and seasons they were expecting the turf to grow in; added to the use they were planning on putting it through.

[Jughead]

Didn’t Theo Fages wear tights (y’know, the sports variety not his wife’s) the other week at Wakefield?

[whatmichaelsays]

30 minutes ago, OMEGA said:

The issue has been caused by overuse too early in the growing process, nothing more, nothing less!

The new pitch itself is a state of the art Hybrid 90%/95% grass and is the same grading as Manchester City’s stadium and training pitches. There was no scrimping on the quality or scraping on the “extras”

The problems have been 100% caused by certain club officials thinking they knew better and deciding to play 3 pre season friendliest on it, against the advice of the supplier/installers. They’ve also trained on it too much again, against the advice of the supplier/installers.

 

Leeds has a similar style of hybrid pitch, where a third of it was pretty much stripped bare by a music concert. They've also played friendlies on that surface and yet, despite Leeds and Wakefield sharing a very similar climate, have managed to restore the pitch with no risk to players. 

There must be something that the club is doing differently in what are very similar circumstances. 

[dboy]

29 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

If (enough of) the grass isn't there, I'd suggest it's nearly as bad as not buying the seed in the first place given the timescales and seasons they were expecting the turf to grow in; added to the use they were planning on putting it through.

So not a stated essential, just a (probably wise, in retrospect), suggestion.

[Tommygilf]

8 minutes ago, dboy said:

So not a stated essential, just a (probably wise, in retrospect), suggestion.

If this isn't a stated essential then there are no such things as stated essentials.

[graveyard johnny]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

The grow lamps, or rather lack of, appear to be a clear misstep by the club. This problem is entirely down to their not being enough natural grass there.

which is ironic - there must be thousands of grow lamps in the agbrigg area

[Tommygilf]

31 minutes ago, graveyard johnny said:

which is ironic - there must be thousands of grow lamps in the agbrigg area

Not enough and not big enough sadly!

[daz39]

6 hours ago, Harry Stottle said:

All the players who go over the white line onto Wakefield's paddock should be dressed like Rodney in Fools and Horses when he was skateboarding, helmet, knee and elbow protection.