Dunbar Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said: Young's in a tricky spot now. Marzhew did well so not easy to get back in. Spending much of the season in the NSW Cup won't help prep him for a big first season at the Roosters. There are loads of variations in a full season, players pick up injuries, suspensions etc. plus changes in form. They are 4 rounds into the season, I expect he will get plenty of NRL game time this year. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 43 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I expect he will get plenty of NRL game time this year. i expect he wont - nrl coaches wont gamble their jobs on erratic clumsy liabilities -like shaun wane gambled our wc chances and it blew up on us 4 2 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolford6 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 26/03/2023 at 19:19, graveyard johnny said: nrl coaches wont gamble their jobs on erratic clumsy liabilities -like shaun wane gambled our wc chances and it blew up on us At the moment we're gambling our season with Leeds' clumsy liabilities. A Leeds Rhinos fan yesterday: Under Scrutiny by the Right-On Thought Police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Greg Marzhew had a very strong game at the weekend in Newcastle's win and absolutely deserves to keep his spot. Equally, Young had a few poor errors in the first couple of rounds and cannot complain about others being given a chance. He has to work hard to get his spot back now. But, despite the agenda of some (well one!) on here, let's not get carried away. In a full season in 2022 Marzhew made more errors per game than Young did and so we are talking about very few games here to say one of them is a 'clumsy liability'. 2 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSTUD Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I am no RL coaching expert. However I would imagine that it does a young player no harm to be taken out of the equation for a while, re assess, up skill certain areas and come again. Think about it. Dom made a massive decision to chance his arm on the other side of the world. The initial chances were that he may never have made a first grade appearance etc and people would not have thought anything else of it. However - made lots of appearances scoring lots of try’s. Plays for England scoring lots of try’s. Seals a big money move to one of the NRL’s more established club’s next season. I think he has done ok! I have stated before that Dom has certain areas where he needs to work on and I am sure he will. Did I ever think he would get this far when I watched him at school and junior level- I certainly did not. I always questioned his heart and desire for such a physically developed young man. However he is well ahead of his time and doing absolutely great at this stage of his career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Dunbar said: Greg Marzhew had a very strong game at the weekend in Newcastle's win and absolutely deserves to keep his spot. Equally, Young had a few poor errors in the first couple of rounds and cannot complain about others being given a chance. He has to work hard to get his spot back now. But, despite the agenda of some (well one!) on here, let's not get carried away. In a full season in 2022 Marzhew made more errors per game than Young did and so we are talking about very few games here to say one of them is a 'clumsy liability'. nothing would make me happier than to see Dom Young become one of the worlds top wingers and hope that he can achieve that goal at the Roosters - just because I didn't join in with the earlier "well over the top" ratings of the lad on here and had concerns about parts of his game doesn't mean I have an agenda - he has the world at his feet and I wish him nothing but the best 1 see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said: nothing would make me happier than to see Dom Young become one of the worlds top wingers and hope that he can achieve that goal at the Roosters - just because I didn't join in with the earlier "well over the top" ratings of the lad on here and had concerns about parts of his game doesn't mean I have an agenda - he has the world at his feet and I wish him nothing but the best I don't really care about your attitiude or hopes, that is up to you. What I am pushing back against is your assertion that he won't get back into the Knights team because he is a (in your words) 'clumsy liability' when the player who replaced him mades more errors per game last season. I prefer to deal with sensible and reasonable descriptions of players based on evidence rather than over dramatic and over the top characterisation. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graveyard johnny Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dunbar said: I don't really care about your attitiude or hopes, that is up to you. What I am pushing back against is your assertion that he won't get back into the Knights team because he is a (in your words) 'clumsy liability' when the player who replaced him mades more errors per game last season. I prefer to deal with sensible and reasonable descriptions of players based on evidence rather than over dramatic and over the top characterisation. ok - that sounds great - although you might need that bike chain oiling as I can hardly hear you for the sound of back peddling see you later undertaker - in a while necrophile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Bath Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Dunbar said: I don't really care about your attitiude or hopes, that is up to you. What I am pushing back against is your assertion that he won't get back into the Knights team because he is a (in your words) 'clumsy liability' when the player who replaced him mades more errors per game last season. I prefer to deal with sensible and reasonable descriptions of players based on evidence rather than over dramatic and over the top characterisation. “More errors per game last season…..” but they are picking a team for this season. On current form who offers more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, Anita Bath said: “More errors per game last season…..” but they are picking a team for this season. On current form who offers more? I have already answered that. 1 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports Prophet Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Just scored his 4th and the match. Bang average player. Dunno what the Roosters see in him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HartwoodHarvard Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Absolutely incredible game from Young Edited April 1, 2023 by HartwoodHarvard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkgee Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 He played very well. Ended in a draw as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 On 26/03/2023 at 22:19, graveyard johnny said: i expect he wont - nrl coaches wont gamble their jobs on erratic clumsy liabilities -like shaun wane gambled our wc chances and it blew up on us That aged well. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davo5 Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 On 29/03/2023 at 23:13, Anita Bath said: “More errors per game last season…..” but they are picking a team for this season. On current form who offers more? Well you seem to like using 1 game as a basis for current form so you’d have to say Young. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Pleased to see Young bounce back so well. A bit of good fortune for him that he got a chance back in first grade so quickly due to the injury to Hunt but he had to take the chance and he did. Personally, I think Marzhew and Young are the best wingers at the Knights and quite a formidable pair given their size and tackle busting. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 It’s quiet isn’t it "Freedom without socialism is privilege and injustice, socialism without freedom is slavery and brutality" - Mikhail Bakunin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Phil said: It’s quiet isn’t it johnny won't be able to post for a few hours because he is on the way to Australia as he has been recruited by a top NRL club as Chief Scout. 1 2 "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anita Bath Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Davo5 said: Well you seem to like using 1 game as a basis for current form so you’d have to say Young. Well done …lets hope he can improve his all round game while keeping up the scoring. You can only play the team in front of you but he will face better teams than the northern beachballs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 Quite possibly the worst full back play I've seen from Miller: 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbruce Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Damien said: Quite possibly the worst full back play I've seen from Miller: Where was he hoping to stop him by the burger bar. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunbar Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 27 minutes ago, Damien said: Quite possibly the worst full back play I've seen from Miller: Lachlan Miller is a good broken field runner but very very green at full back positionally in both attack and defence. You would have to think that Bailey Hodgson would be in with a shout of an NRL start if his NSW Cup form continues. Maybe with Miller as an impact role off the bench. "The history of the world is the history of the triumph of the heartless over the mindless." — Sir Humphrey Appleby. "If someone doesn't value evidence, what evidence are you going to provide to prove that they should value it? If someone doesn't value logic, what logical argument could you provide to show the importance of logic?" — Sam Harris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Futtocks Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Dirkgee said: He played very well. Ended in a draw as well Not just the tries he scored, but he also made the try-saving tackle that sent the game into Golden Point. Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted. Ralph Waldo Emerson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Damien said: Quite possibly the worst full back play I've seen from Miller: I've watched it 3 times and I have absolutely no idea what he was trying to accomplish. Was he trying to psych him out, pretend the try line no longer existed in this dimension? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien Posted April 1, 2023 Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 minute ago, dkw said: I've watched it 3 times and I have absolutely no idea what he was trying to accomplish. Was he trying to psych him out, pretend the try line no longer existed in this dimension? Maybe he was trying to trick him into putting the ball down over the dead ball line? Pity someone put those big posts there to give the try line away! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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