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The 2025 rugby league World Cup in France is on the brink of collapse. Sport Confidential can reveal a crisis meeting between the International Rugby League Federation and French officials will take place on Friday night where it is highly likely moves to host the competition in France will be scrapped.

Cost bloating from next year’s Olympics and political uncertainty in the country has led to rugby league becoming an unlucky casualty.

France was due to host their first stand alone World Cup since 1972. The IRLF have been bracing for this news and have been working on contingency plans. The late timing will make it difficult to receive alternative government funding which could result in a scaled down tournament. The southern hemisphere nations could be leant on to give assists in rescuing the competition.

Sixteen teams competed in the highly successful World Cup in England last year. There are hopes that the USA will host the tournament in 2029.

 

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This reminds me of a lesson I was trying to give my son the other day. Silver linings. What a great opportunity this presents the NRL to reach out to the Aus government. V’landys: “Hey Albo,

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You reap what you sow.  The lack of groundwork has meant the whole international game has no real foundations.  To think we can just stage four huge world cups combined when we don't even st

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This is all the fault of something that happened 90 years ago and in no way reflects the chronic incompetence of French rugby league over decades and decades.

Or to put it another way: entirely predictable.

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This was always going to be contingent on Government funding, it not really the fault if the French Rugby League if this funding has been pulled. You'd think the funding would have been more locked in though.

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6 minutes ago, Damien said:

This was always going to be contingent on Government funding, it not really the fault if the French Rugby League if this funding has been pulled. You'd think the funding would have been more locked in though.

You don't agree to host the tournament unless the funding is 100% secure. Just yet another "hold your breath, hopefully it'll work out somehow" failure of governance within back-of-a-fag-packet rugby league. Amateur hour time after time. 

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21 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

You don't agree to host the tournament unless the funding is 100% secure. Just yet another "hold your breath, hopefully it'll work out somehow" failure of governance within back-of-a-fag-packet rugby league. Amateur hour time after time. 

That goes without saying. However we don't know the details at all at this point and it's not like anyone else wanted it.

I do think the French Rugby League were pushed into this somewhat by the IRL and the Australian game, who were all too quick to try and duck out of hosting it after the USA bid fell through.

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Incredibly and awfully depressing… I was so looking forward to coming over to France in 2025, to say nothing of my hopes that the World Cup would give rugby league the boost it needs in France.

I can’t believe the government funding was not locked in… Remember the big launch a year ago with no less than the French prime minister presenting etc?!?!

perhaps the French rugby union got in the ears of the French government? I would not put it past them!

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53 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

You don't agree to host the tournament unless the funding is 100% secure. Just yet another "hold your breath, hopefully it'll work out somehow" failure of governance within back-of-a-fag-packet rugby league. Amateur hour time after time. 

They said at the time it was down to cities bidding. There was even a list of those who'd expressed an interest.

Unfortunately, it was very vague on what expressing an interest meant. Or what had really been confirmed, offered, was available etc.

If it's been messed up then there is no one to blame but the French Rugby League, however tempting it is to find other villains.

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30 minutes ago, Damien said:

That goes without saying. However we don't know the details at all at this point and it's not like anyone else wanted it.

I do think the French Rugby League were pushed into this somewhat by the IRL and the Australian game, who were all too quick to try and duck out of hosting it after the USA bid fell through.

Aye you might be right

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1 minute ago, gingerjon said:

They said at the time it was down to cities bidding. There was even a list of those who'd expressed an interest.

Unfortunately, it was very vague on what expressing an interest meant. Or what had really been confirmed, offered, was available etc.

If it's been messed up then there is no one to blame but the French Rugby League, however tempting it is to find other villains.

Totally agree French RL own any failure on the ground, but the international board are responsible for assessing whether they have their ducks in a row before giving them the competition. Can't shirk that responsibility. Same reason the Qatar world cup was FIFAs fault, not the Qataris for wanting to host it. 

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2 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

Totally agree French RL own any failure on the ground, but the international board are responsible for assessing whether they have their ducks in a row before giving them the competition. Can't shirk that responsibility. Same reason the Qatar world cup was FIFAs fault, not the Qataris for wanting to host it. 

I'm more than happy to blame IRL for their bits but this bit we're reading about now ... that's just another one to add to the  big pile of French Rugby League's self-inflicted mess ups.

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7 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

I'm more than happy to blame IRL for their bits but this bit we're reading about now ... that's just another one to add to the  big pile of French Rugby League's self-inflicted mess ups.

It's a few barely competent blokes pretending to run a sport in their spare time. I think that makes the French rugby league organisation almost the most distilled version of rugby league there is: 100% committed to our brand values 🤣

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1 hour ago, Damien said:

This was always going to be contingent on Government funding, it not really the fault if the French Rugby League if this funding has been pulled. You'd think the funding would have been more locked in though.

Stop talking sense for heavens sake. 

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1 hour ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

You don't agree to host the tournament unless the funding is 100% secure. Just yet another "hold your breath, hopefully it'll work out somehow" failure of governance within back-of-a-fag-packet rugby league. Amateur hour time after time. 

How can funding ever be 100% secure if they didn’t have it in their bank account? If the government told them the money was there and have now pulled it there’s nothing the French RL can do about that. 

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2 minutes ago, Eddie said:

How can funding ever be 100% secure if they didn’t have it in their bank account? If the government told them the money was there and have now pulled it there’s nothing the French RL can do about that. 

I don't imagine for one second that's precisely how it played out. If after all the failings of French rugby league organisation and the IRL over the decades our response is to give them all the benefit of the doubt, then you're all more generous than I am. 

 

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Just now, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

I don't imagine for one second that's precisely how it played out. If after all the failings of French rugby league organisation and the IRL over the decades our response is to give them all the benefit of the doubt, then you're all more generous than I am. 

 

I'm sure they will be able to point some legal documents, emails and the like confirming the funding.

*pause*

No, no, turns out I can't say that with a straight face.

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12 minutes ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

It's a few barely competent blokes pretending to run a sport in their spare time.

Now, are we talking IRL or FFRXIII here?

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If this world cup doesn't go ahead at all (because let's face it, asking anyone to plan and stage a world cup with 3 years notice us a recipe for disaster), would it be an exaggeration to say that the international game is dead?

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