Dupree hands in Transfer request

[Red Willow]

Seems his agent has requested a transfer with 2years on his contract.

Really dislike mid season requests like this.

Seems only last week he was complaining about Leeds did the dirty on him and this is how he repays Salford.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

It's been brewing for a while this, been lots of rumours about Rovers making formal offers to Salford including a transfer fee. I guess Dupree now hasn't been happy they've not entertained it - how long has he left on his contract?

I'm surprised we're looking at paying fees though to be honest... would rather we put the money towards an East Stand extension! He's certainly the right type of player though 

[Saint Toppy]

6 minutes ago, Red Willow said:

Seems his agent has requested a transfer with 2years on his contract.

Really dislike mid season requests like this.

Seems only last week he was complaining about Leeds did the dirty on him and this is how he repays Salford.

I'm not sure why your so shocked by this, it was pretty much inevitable and I suspect Dupree is just the first to bolt.

Everyone knows Salford are deep in the financial doo doo and that their only way of keep their heads above water is to sell off their assets (their players). The club know this and thats the only reason they got so many of their players to commit to new longer term contracts knowing the club would never be able to honour them financially. The club did these knowing they'd be due transfer fees (which they desperately need) and the players signed them knowing that wherever they end up playing they are guaranteed a SL contract for that extended period of time. It was a win-win all round (well except for the Salford fans who are likely to see an exodus of players over the next few years unless there's massive new external investment)

[Red Willow]

2 and half years left, he only just signed a new contract.

Disappointed more than shocked, not much has changed since he signed the extension it's timing that annoys me.

Might explain his performance on Saturday though.

[DG70]

Poor all round from the player and his agent, Salford have been very good for him and the contract extension and this how they are repaid with a ton of disregard and disrespect.

[super major]

30 minutes ago, Red Willow said:

2 and half years left, he only just signed a new contract.

Disappointed more than shocked, not much has changed since he signed the extension it's timing that annoys me.

Might explain his performance on Saturday though.

Maybe he prefers capitalism to socialism?

[Jill Halfpenny fan]

57 minutes ago, Red Willow said:

Seems his agent has requested a transfer with 2years on his contract.

Really dislike mid season requests like this.

Seems only last week he was complaining about Leeds did the dirty on him and this is how he repays Salford.

Were you happy when you took him from Widnes last mid season?

[LeytherRob]

36 minutes ago, Red Willow said:

2 and half years left, he only just signed a new contract.

Disappointed more than shocked, not much has changed since he signed the extension it's timing that annoys me.

Might explain his performance on Saturday though.

This is why it surprises me Salford have turned it down (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/65674364). There is no value to keeping a player who isn't happy and the longer it drags on, the more it poisons the whole dressing room and the transfer fee offers get smaller as other clubs realise SRD are stuck with a net liability who doesn't want to be there. If Hull KR are offering 6-figures as reported, I'd be snapping their hand off because more than likely the next clubs to come knocking will be from the NRL and I highly doubt he wouldn't just do the same thing to Hull KR further down the line.

 

I don't particularly blame him, it's a short career made shorter considering he's been a bit of a late bloomer so you  have to get what you can and there is no doubt his stock would have risen considerably since he accepted the new contract last year. 

[Arizonared]

1 hour ago, Hull Kingston Bronco said:

It's been brewing for a while this, been lots of rumours about Rovers making formal offers to Salford including a transfer fee. I guess Dupree now hasn't been happy they've not entertained it - how long has he left on his contract?

I'm surprised we're looking at paying fees though to be honest... would rather we put the money towards an East Stand extension! He's certainly the right type of player though 

I agree with this. If we can find the money for a transfer fee, let's get the rest of the ground sorted first

However, if he comes over and helps us win a trophy at some point, I would be happy

[DimmestStar]

6 minutes ago, Arizonared said:

I agree with this. If we can find the money for a transfer fee, let's get the rest of the ground sorted first

However, if he comes over and helps us win a trophy at some point, I would be happy

After years of sub salary cap Rovers are now very...very.. strong financially.

The ground will be 'sorted' (it's pretty good already) AND Rovers will make marquee signings and pay transfer fees as required.

It's not an either or situation.

As for Tyler Dupree Rovers made an offer for 2024 it was turned down twice and the player wanted the move and so has handed in a transfer request. That has created the possibility of a move in 2023. Rovers didn't engineer that.

[idrewthehaggis]

3 hours ago, Red Willow said:

2 and half years left, he only just signed a new contract.

Disappointed more than shocked, not much has changed since he signed the extension it's timing that annoys me.

Might explain his performance on Saturday though.

Well good luck to him as if he doesn't want to wear the maillot éscarlate any more and intends to leave Team A in the Big City-2 finals/2 semi finals recently for Team B on  the trailer camp side of a large town-1 final/1 semi final/ 1 relegation also recently.

Of course it might be more about tapping up more money whereever he ends up.. (Or even a "sinister" attempt to unsettle the Reds before that Cup tie?)

it's a short career and it's a job not a calling after all. And who'd blame him.

However there is a right and wrong way to go about it......

Maybe he wishes to emulate other recently departed Reds like Evalds, Griffith, (both of them) Biddy, Yates, Jones, Dudson, Lolohea, whose progress has "skyrocketed" since leaving.

For every Theo there seems a dozen Daggers these days.

2 hours ago, Arizonared said:

I agree with this. If we can find the money for a transfer fee, let's get the rest of the ground sorted first

Priorities- generational comfort for the fans or a couple of summers prop? 

2 hours ago, LeytherRob said:

This is why it surprises me Salford have turned it down (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/65674364).

£14k came in today for the Community Share offer. That's how it will be for the "Peoples Club."

Salford rely on its supporters and the council, opposed to the typical meat factory merchants, financiers dealing with autocratic states, ambulance chasing solicitors, horse owners or construction bosses.

That £3m liability is mostly to a former owner and having been owed for more a decade,  I wonder how much urgency there is to pay it back. Probably as much as those industrial loans that various club owners generously oblige.

I am sure £175k affords as good or better.

2 hours ago, super major said:

Maybe he prefers capitalism to socialism?

Nationwide, John Lewis, Bayern Munich, CIS, Partick Thistle.

Erm it is a wide stretch to call partial supporter ownership "Socialism." 

But hey ho. 

 

Edited May 22, 2023 by idrewthehaggis

[Exiled red]

2 hours ago, LeytherRob said:

This is why it surprises me Salford have turned it down (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/65674364). There is no value to keeping a player who isn't happy and the longer it drags on, the more it poisons the whole dressing room and the transfer fee offers get smaller as other clubs realise SRD are stuck with a net liability who doesn't want to be there. If Hull KR are offering 6-figures as reported, I'd be snapping their hand off because more than likely the next clubs to come knocking will be from the NRL and I highly doubt he wouldn't just do the same thing to Hull KR further down the line.

 

I don't particularly blame him, it's a short career made shorter considering he's been a bit of a late bloomer so you  have to get what you can and there is no doubt his stock would have risen considerably since he accepted the new contract last year. 

What's the point in tying down your assets and then selling them to the first offer that comes along. 

By publicly turning it down they will hopefully attract more bids of a higher nature.

[LeytherRob]

Just now, Exiled red said:

What's the point in tying down your assets and then selling them to the first offer that comes along. 

By publicly turning it down they will hopefully attract more bids of a higher nature.

6-figure transfer bids are almost unheard of these days in SL, especially for a prop forward. Turning it down when it is public knowledge the player wants to leave is a gamble, it may lead to increased bids or it could end up with an unhappy and disruptive player phoning in performances and if that happens and other clubs realise that SRD want to get rid, those offers will quickly become 5-figure offers.. An asset is only an asset if they want to play for you, otherwise they can be dead weight that clubs short of cash can't afford to keep. There is still 80k to target for the share issue, if the documentation is correct then 100k+ from dupree secures SRD's short/medium term future and means more investment in the commercial debt to grow crowds.

[DI Keith Fowler]

3 hours ago, Jill Halfpenny fan said:

Were you happy when you took him from Widnes last mid season?

Indeed I came in to the post the same. Salford benefited from him doing it to us it's a bit rich to be complaining about it happening to them down the line. 

[moorside roughyed]

He played for Oldham a while back. He was way above our league. Glad he's had success.

[Pete Grady]

Dupree is only 23 years old and yet already he's had more clubs than Arnold Palmer (7) and so its no suprise really.

I trust King, Blease and Rowley to do the right thing, and if they think its best to see him off the premises for a fat fee, thats fine by me. 

Disappointing, but we move on.

[idrewthehaggis]

46 minutes ago, LeytherRob said:

 There is still 80k to target for the share issue, if the documentation is correct then 100k+ from dupree secures SRD's short/medium term future and means more investment in the commercial debt to grow crowds.

It's £184 with a fortnight to go. £14k came in today alone. Plus what can arise from applying to various charitable/grants that this community thang opens up.

No choice. When the Reds start receiving a share of gameday food and drink revenue, then my gaggle of fellow matchday goers will be obliged to have a pasty, whether they want to. No choice.

And then whatever fee Tyler's contract sale amasses. And don't mention how much Brodie will be after he leads us to a SRD trophy haul.

Win Win.

I am suspecting this is more about the "agency" of an embittered  former hapless coach than anything. 

 

 

[Chris22]

If Salford are in as much financial strife as is being made out, then it's hard to blame a players for wanting to leave.  

If my employer was at the risk of financial ruin, I think I'd look for another job too. Our players aren't particularly wealthy and this career won't give them financial security for life, so I wouldn't blame a player for trying to ensure their future is as secure as possible.

[Red Willow]

10 hours ago, Chris22 said:

If Salford are in as much financial strife as is being made out, then it's hard to blame a players for wanting to leave.  

If my employer was at the risk of financial ruin, I think I'd look for another job too. Our players aren't particularly wealthy and this career won't give them financial security for life, so I wouldn't blame a player for trying to ensure their future is as secure as possible.

The situation is exactly the same as when he signed the extension. This is an agent stirring the pot. 

 

[Wollo Wollo Wayoo]

11 hours ago, Chris22 said:

If Salford are in as much financial strife as is being made out, then it's hard to blame a players for wanting to leave.  

Or clubs with a pocket full of cash doing a bit of ambulance chasing.  

[ELBOWSEYE]

5 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

Or clubs with a pocket full of cash doing a bit of ambulance chasing.  

Could be a club putting player's on contacts to have resale value when they have to sell them.

[Saint Toppy]

Whats probably made things worse was Dupree's recent England call up. Most players who aren't already internationals when they sign will have a clause in their contract that entitles them to an automatic contract upgrade (or bonus) if they become internationals.

What we don't know is whether Dupree had such a clause (i'd be surprised of his agent didn't have it put in his latest contract), and if he did whether Salford are financially in a position to honor it. Maybe this is whats now prompted Dupree to hand in a transfer request because Salford can't pay up ?

There's always 2 sides to this. The club will paint the player to be the villain for wanting to leave but there's usually something going on behind the scenes that triggers a player wanting out mid-season.

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

13 hours ago, moorside roughyed said:

He played for Oldham a while back. He was way above our league. Glad he's had success.

There’s some clips of him at Oldham on YouTube, I know highlights can mislead but looked like men against boys in some moments in those games. Very fast for a prop. 

[Hull Kingston Bronco]

37 minutes ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

Or clubs with a pocket full of cash doing a bit of ambulance chasing.  

Well, our owner is a specialist in that field…  

[Nothus]

There's no loyalty in sport, and a rugby league career is a short one. Tyler is just trying to get the best deal possible for himself, and the recent England call up will have increased his worth significantly.