IMG Grading System (Many Merged Threads)

[sentoffagain2]

      Poor season,it's all Hull FC's fault.

[gingerjon]

19 minutes ago, JAG said:

The reason I frame this argument in a tv show metaphor is RL whether it likes it or not is in the entertainment business. The product or "show" is what happens on the field and what it means in the story arch of the entire season. If the show is samey and predictable people will switch off. If this RL season were a TV series I'd be asking myself; What was the point? Was it worth it?

And yet, it appears, that the actual TV figures were decent and, for the Grand Final itself, some of the highest recorded.

[Damien]

There was a lot of positives this season. There were some great crowds with average attendances up, record play off crowds, big increases in both Challenge Cup final and Grand Final crowds, with both having the best crowds in years, and some good viewing figures. Some great games and moments too.

Sure some things can always be better but unless you are purposely looking at it with a the game is doomed in this country view then some good progress was made this year.

[Mumby Magic]

As I've said previously any A or B graded teams in the Championship (yes I know there will hardly be any A grades in the Championship) should be announced as Clubs that can be promoted that season. Possibly a grading system for entry from League One to Championship. You have your jeopardy but clubs being promoted are doing well with the respected criteria aswell. Maybe a long term target of say 20 A grades within the next 5 to 10 years will enhance our game off the field but also allow for promotion and relegation.

[Damien]

4 minutes ago, Mumby Magic said:

As I've said previously any A or B graded teams in the Championship (yes I know there will hardly be any A grades in the Championship) should be announced as Clubs that can be promoted that season. Possibly a grading system for entry from League One to Championship. You have your jeopardy but clubs being promoted are doing well with the respected criteria aswell. Maybe a long term target of say 20 A grades within the next 5 to 10 years will enhance our game off the field but also allow for promotion and relegation.

Which is basically like the minimum standards we have tried to implement at various times in the past. This is all well and good, and sports like Football have implemented it perfectly fine for years, but we had just as many complaints as we see now. Those moaning about IMG are largely the same ones that would moan about minimum standards if it happened.

[Harry Stottle]

19 hours ago, The Daddy said:

OMG please stop spreading nonsense and false rumours on this forum. I've seen you regurgitating this on several threads here. 

The Toulouse club have resigned most of the players from this year's squad on 1-3 year FULL-TIME CONTRACTS and the owner has clearly referenced his vision for the future of the club in several interviews. 

Usual garbage from you but I don't expect anything else. Keep praying for another clubs downfall. 

Well if most player's from this year have re-signed for Toulouse and especially at this time of year when the player shopping shelves are almost bare they will struggle to improve the squad.

If they do get elevated to SL they will be bigger canon fodder than both Hull FC and London last year, what do you think being on the end of humiliating scorelines will do for them with the people of Toulouse as far as support goes where they have both Union and Football to go at.

So tell me what is the owners vision for the future, and why not the here and now given they were in the top 12 in the prelim gradings? Was he just expecting to be elevated?

Of the clubs below Toulouse on those gradings was Wakefield, Leigh and Cas don't bank on beating Cas who were 13th on the list the score they are being tipped to obtain is an A or just short, Leigh were 12th and their score is said to be over 15 getting an A, and Wakefield the one immediately above Toulouse we all know that they will beat Toulouse in the gradings, so why has Toulouse sat on its laurels?

Look, I am not praying for any clubs downfall, if you look at what I have always said about this grading excersise I would file it vertically in the bin, and have P&R in its rightful place contested on the field of play, but we know the gradings are here now and those clubs in 11th, 12th and 13th have taken action to thwart of the threat of being in the Championship from 2025.

[ELBOWSEYE]

Well that's 1 minute I won't get back, have we not seen the best play off series and a final decided by brilliance rather than officials mistake or controversial decisions. Some people will never appreciate anything until it's well in the past.

[sam4731]

11 minutes ago, Mumby Magic said:

As I've said previously any A or B graded teams in the Championship (yes I know there will hardly be any A grades in the Championship) should be announced as Clubs that can be promoted that season. Possibly a grading system for entry from League One to Championship. You have your jeopardy but clubs being promoted are doing well with the respected criteria aswell. Maybe a long term target of say 20 A grades within the next 5 to 10 years will enhance our game off the field but also allow for promotion and relegation.

'A' grade is automatic SL.

[N2022]

45 minutes ago, RS said:

I enjoyed it there was and still is a lot to like 

The season or the article?

[sweaty craiq]

10 minutes ago, Damien said:

Which is basically like the minimum standards we have tried to implement at various times in the past. This is all well and good, and sports like Football have implemented it perfectly fine for years, but we had just as many complaints as we see now. Those moaning about IMG are largely the same ones that would moan about minimum standards if it happened.

Min standards was a joke, hopefully IMG don’t attract the same conclusion. Promises/porkies of new stadia kept at least 2 clubs alive in SL.

Crusaders were deemed fit for purpose also

[The Third Man]

Any Championship Clubs which achieve Grade A will automatically be promoted to the Superleague. None will achieve it. Be hilarious if half a dozen did as the current clubs would then have to share the TV money with them.

[Damien]

2 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

Min standards was a joke, hopefully IMG don’t attract the same conclusion. Promises/porkies of new stadia kept at least 2 clubs alive in SL.

Crusaders were deemed fit for purpose also

Well yes, promises aren't what minimum standards are about if it is being done properly.

[sweaty craiq]

Just now, Damien said:

Well yes, promises aren't what minimum standards are about if it is being done properly.

The IF word eh

[Agbrigg]

I just dont understand how Tolouse are ready for SL they are from being another Catalan. From the times I have seen them at home on TV their crowds look extremely poor. The fact that they were in a final last night albeit in Wakey and their final ticket sale was 30 tells me there is insufficient interest from the Tolouse public 

[N2022]

1 hour ago, The Daddy said:

That's sarcasm right? Please tell me yr being sarcastic 

I think so, but it really does say something about the state of it all that we can't be sure whether it's satire or serious ...

[N2022]

1 minute ago, Agbrigg said:

I just dont understand how Tolouse are ready for SL they are from being another Catalan. From the times I have seen them at home on TV their crowds look extremely poor. The fact that they were in a final last night albeit in Wakey and their final ticket sale was 30 tells me there is insufficient interest from the Tolouse public 

I think the key there is 'albeit in Wakey'. Don't remember there being frequent, if indeed any, direct flights Leeds to Toulouse, and some of the routes to SW of France are seasonal with none in October. You'd be looking at a lengthy or expensive transfer from Manchester or Birmingham.

[Damien]

5 minutes ago, sweaty craiq said:

The IF word eh

It was done badly but that is like most things the sport has tried to do to progress things over the last 30 years. Framing the future, minimum standards, licensing etc all became a fudge to placate too many and failed as a result. Let's see what happens with the IMG process as that should be black and white. Anything else and it will go the same way.

[Chronicler of Chiswick]

Have to say that I enjoyed the season even if the Cru were a bit patchy, some people are never satisfied!

[Griff]

1 hour ago, Wollo Wollo Wayoo said:

I don't think Toulouse have improved their score enough to beat Cas's addition of bolted on bench seating. Think Cas will just hang onto 12th spot.

How do you think these seats should be fastened on?

Sellotape?  Blutak?

[JohnM]

Clearly a lot of thought, time and effort had put into the opening post, but I'm afraid it's been in vain and falls at the first fence.

2024 was not the worst Rugby League season and therefore no one can be at fault .

In my opinion, there is much misunderstanding of the Re-imagining Rugby League project and IMGs part in this . Sure, the RFL could have communicated more effectively and robustly about the project and about the mis-representation

It's always helpful, I think, to go back to first principles and look at the presentation that covers the whole project, of which gradings are only the third part of several.

The presentation is here: https://www.superleague.co.uk/article/3094/reimagining-rugby-league-–-img-present-recommendations

Edited October 20, 2024 by JohnM

[Agbrigg]

1 minute ago, N2022 said:

I think the key there is 'albeit in Wakey'. Don't remember there being frequent, if indeed any, direct flights Leeds to Toulouse, and some of the routes to SW of France are seasonal with none in October. You'd be looking at a lengthy or expensive transfer from Manchester or Birmingham.

You make a reasonable point but I would counter it with this. Many fans of Championship clubs have visited tolouse this season and the travel difficulties would be identical. How many did Bradford take last week ? I dont know, but suspect it was far more than 30 and well into three figures. I know Fev took quite a few for their league fixture too.

[Agbrigg]

1 minute ago, N2022 said:

I think the key there is 'albeit in Wakey'. Don't remember there being frequent, if indeed any, direct flights Leeds to Toulouse, and some of the routes to SW of France are seasonal with none in October. You'd be looking at a lengthy or expensive transfer from Manchester or Birmingham.

You make a reasonable point but I would counter it with this. Many fans of Championship clubs have visited tolouse this season and the travel difficulties would be identical. How many did Bradford take last week ? I dont know, but suspect it was far more than 30 and well into three figures. I know Fev took quite a few for their league fixture too.

[Agbrigg]

1 minute ago, N2022 said:

I think the key there is 'albeit in Wakey'. Don't remember there being frequent, if indeed any, direct flights Leeds to Toulouse, and some of the routes to SW of France are seasonal with none in October. You'd be looking at a lengthy or expensive transfer from Manchester or Birmingham.

You make a reasonable point but I would counter it with this. Many fans of Championship clubs have visited tolouse this season and the travel difficulties would be identical. How many did Bradford take last week ? I dont know, but suspect it was far more than 30 and well into three figures. I know Fev took quite a few for their league fixture too.

[Agbrigg]

6 minutes ago, N2022 said:

I think the key there is 'albeit in Wakey'. Don't remember there being frequent, if indeed any, direct flights Leeds to Toulouse, and some of the routes to SW of France are seasonal with none in October. You'd be looking at a lengthy or expensive transfer from Manchester or Birmingham.

Bradford had the exact same problem in reverse last week, I wonder how many they took. I suspect far more than 30 and well into three figures

[Chrispmartha]

Not being funny but it’s not hard to see why away fans travel to Toulouse and not many toulouse fans travel to Bradford or Wakefield.