Worzel Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 3 hours ago, Archie Gordon said: Mourgue needs a fresh start. He's a 6 but has been played at 1 and 9 for too long and is just not developing. Should have done this 2 years ago. He's not displacing Lewis at 6, we've signed him to replace Evalds who will be 32 by the end of the season Rovers will no doubt pick up a new #7 at some point in 2025 ahead of the following season, I think Peters knows the Lewis/May combination is sub-optimal. May brings a lot and Lewis has now got the game management role, but May's lack of a kicking game has held us back, makes our end of sets too predictable and reduces Lewis run threat on the 5th too. Specifically it lost us the away game at Wigan, and a poor May kick selection was a turning point in the Grand Final. 1
binosh Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 I thought Hull KR had high hopes for young Laulu-Togagae
northamptoncougar Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, binosh said: I thought Hull KR had high hopes for young Laulu-Togagae I can only comment on 2023 but he struggled (especially defensively) at Championship level.
Worzel Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 2 hours ago, binosh said: I thought Hull KR had high hopes for young Laulu-Togagae Don't think he's up to it. This season we'll see if he can step up in the Championship, but I think it's a very big "if" and you can't build your plans on hope eh.
LeeF Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 20 hours ago, NRLandSL said: I’d disagree, before this year, yes. But he has developed his game a lot this season after becoming Catalans regular starting FB. He’s developed his general attacking/decision making and passing game heaps. Not to mention he is a brilliant goal kicker, which (Hull KR need). His safety under the high ball as improved heaps as well as his defence, and as you mentioned he’s running game is exceptional. Hull KR have already signed one of the best goal kickers in SL
The Future is League Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 John Bateman https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-league/articles/cq628e7m98vo
Trojan Horse Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 8 hours ago, LeytherRob said: Seems to be a common theme with French players - bursting on to the scene with much promise only to stagnate and not really develop the Rugby IQ to take the next step. Gigot, Escare, Fages all spring to mind. I have to admit that Escare came to mind when I was writing my post about Mourgue.
Trojan Horse Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 10 hours ago, NRLandSL said: No, I disagree still. We will agree to disagree, and I stand by every thing I said. In prior years he has certainly struggled in attacking 3 on 2 situations to play the right pass or right decision but this season he has looked far better and more composed. He is still not perfect but the signs of improvement are most certainly there. He has been very solid very for Catalans this year and I think he is great signing to replace an aging Evalds or Tyrone May. Fullback is probably the position with the most talent in rugby league currently, so not sure what you mean by that last comment. Looks like we have a clear difference in opinion here. I can only go on what I saw last season and I watched Catalans a lot last year. I think he has some developing to do to reach the level of either of those quoted but he’s got his chance so it’s up to him. My comment on full backs was more to do with homegrown/local talent. There’s a lot of talent brought in from overseas and a few of the recently decent full backs are coming to their twilight. I don’t believe there is that much young talent in the full back position looking at the list. Not that are noteworthy that is.
NRLandSL Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 42 minutes ago, Trojan Horse said: Looks like we have a clear difference in opinion here. I can only go on what I saw last season and I watched Catalans a lot last year. I think he has some developing to do to reach the level of either of those quoted but he’s got his chance so it’s up to him. My comment on full backs was more to do with homegrown/local talent. There’s a lot of talent brought in from overseas and a few of the recently decent full backs are coming to their twilight. I don’t believe there is that much young talent in the full back position looking at the list. Not that are noteworthy that is. I agree Mourge has still not reached his potential. He can still improve quite a lot. I think there is a lot of young fullback talent in Europe if that’s what you’re referring to. Cai Taylor-Wray and Harry Robertson are generational talents and 2 of the 3 best U18s players in the world. Logan Moy too is special, and there are other guys like Fletcher Rooney, George Flanagan and Alfie Edgell. I’d say England have a very strong generation of fullbacks coming through right now.
audois Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 21 hours ago, NRLandSL said: I think Cesar Rogué could end up at fullback. Aispuro-Bichet is absolutely phenomenal though, I think he will become one of the best outside backs in SL. Clement Martin is aswell very special, some exciting youth at Catalans. Also Lenny Marc and Giovanni Descalzi-Ganthier will be great SL players in the future. Yes I misted Clement Martin who came from Lezignan - a centre and wigner. These are the only full time with the Dragons "It involves matters much greater than drafting the new rules...the original and existing games have their own powerful appeal to their players and public and have the sentiments which history inspires" - Harold 'Jersey' Flegg 1933 "Just as we had been Cathars, we were treizistes, men apart." - Jean Roque, Calendrier-revue du Racing-Club Albigeois, 1958-1959 Si tu( Remi Casty) devais envoyer un fax au Président Guasch? " Un grand bravo pour ce que vous avez fait,et merci de m 'avoir embarqué dans cette aventure"
Trojan Horse Posted December 19, 2024 Posted December 19, 2024 (edited) 10 hours ago, NRLandSL said: I agree Mourge has still not reached his potential. He can still improve quite a lot. I think there is a lot of young fullback talent in Europe if that’s what you’re referring to. Cai Taylor-Wray and Harry Robertson are generational talents and 2 of the 3 best U18s players in the world. Logan Moy too is special, and there are other guys like Fletcher Rooney, George Flanagan and Alfie Edgell. I’d say England have a very strong generation of fullbacks coming through right now. Don’t get me wrong I agree that he can and still has the ability to improve. Time will tell on that. Good list but I’ll disagree on Moy. He's poor imho. Only vastly overhyped by Hull fans and Sky team for a couple of runs in a completely inept team. Hull FC defensively were the worst I have seen ever in SL last season of any team. Dropped some real poor high balls last year too that put FC square under pressure. He wouldn’t get in any other SL team. Needs time to develop at Championship level imo. That is a good list for academy level rugby absolutely. All those listed though are largely unproven at SL level and as we know some will transition well but others won’t as is usually the case. My point was more Europe fullbacks who are already at SL standard but have years ahead of them. There’s quite a big gap and void. Hopefully a couple of those young lads will transition and prove themselves at SL level. Edited December 19, 2024 by Trojan Horse
DCRL Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Jack Bussey to Sheffield and Kieran Hudson to York in a couple of Championship moves https://13v13.com/championship/
Trojan Horse Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) KR done the right thing signing Batch up long term. One player Trinity fans were very gutted to lose. Good to see a Trinity product get recognised as the quality player he is too. Losing Johnstone and Batchelor same time seriously hurt Trinity. I expect he will play for England soon too. Good luck to him. Edited December 20, 2024 by Trojan Horse
Agbrigg Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 36 minutes ago, Trojan Horse said: KR done the right thing signing Batch up long term. One player Trinity fans were very gutted to lose. Good to see a Trinity product get recognised as the quality player he is too. Losing Johnstone and Batchelor same time seriously hurt Trinity. I expect he will play for England soon too. Good luck to him. Good player is Batch (james) and I think he is better than his brother at Saints . Pity him and a few Others were taken from Trin over to KR. However, the days of HKR looking to Trin to source players is now over
Charlie Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Trojan Horse said: KR done the right thing signing Batch up long term. One player Trinity fans were very gutted to lose. Good to see a Trinity product get recognised as the quality player he is too. Losing Johnstone and Batchelor same time seriously hurt Trinity. I expect he will play for England soon too. Good luck to him. Batch is decent but way of England
DoubleD Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Rumours, as yet unsubstantiated, that Newman has signed for Saints for 2026.
phiggins Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Will Hadley move to prop now for KR now? Otherwise it will be difficult to accommodate him, Martin, Tanginoa and Batchelor in their regular 17
Wollo Wollo Wayoo Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 2 hours ago, Agbrigg said: Pity him and a few Others were taken from Trin over to KR. However, the days of HKR looking to Trin to source players is now over Is there now a production line of home grown Academy and Reserve players just waiting to step up? 1 This world was never meant for one as beautiful as me. Wakefield Trinity RLFC 2012 - 2014 "The wasted years" 2013, 2014 & 2015 Official Magic Weekend "Whipping Boys" 2017 - The year the dream disappeared under Grix's left foot. 2018 - The FinniChezz Bromance 2019 - The Return of the Prodigal Son
Kirmonds pouch Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 5 hours ago, Charlie said: Batch is decent but way of England Well you’re wrong on that 1
wakeyranger Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 23 hours ago, DoubleD said: Rumours, as yet unsubstantiated, that Newman has signed for Saints for 2026. Would make sense to replace Hurrell I suppose. 1
MZH Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 Hugo Salabio to Hull. Bit of a project signing. Not sure he makes the first choice 17 initially but lets see how he goes. He's certainly got the tools to be decent. Hopefully Cartwright can bring another level or two out of him.
Archie Gordon Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 41 minutes ago, MZH said: Hugo Salabio to Hull. Bit of a project signing. Not sure he makes the first choice 17 initially but lets see how he goes. He's certainly got the tools to be decent. Hopefully Cartwright can bring another level or two out of him. I like Salabio - hope he makes the breakthrough, as much for France as Hull.
daz39 Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 3 minutes ago, Archie Gordon said: I like Salabio - hope he makes the breakthrough, as much for France as Hull. I'm a bit surprised we released him, very raw but definitely had potential and i believe we signed him as a project, he looked fine the times he got game time so a strange one really but i trust Robbo to make the right decisions for his club. HGSA.org.uk proudly partnering with https://www.sportsandbetting.net/ the ultimate destination for people who enjoy sports betting.
Dullish Mood Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 2 hours ago, wakeyranger said: Would make sense to replace Hurrell I suppose. Perfect player temperament wise for the mighty Saints. 1
Charlie Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 On 21/12/2024 at 00:49, Kirmonds pouch said: Well you’re wrong on that In your opinion you mean kpp nsemba Nicholson then maybe even Radley
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