bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 The discussion on the NRL having an input into to SL has me thinking about an idea I’ve had for a while. What if we reversed that and the RFL took over an NRL expansion side. Perth for example it could be run as a development tool for England players.
Sports Prophet Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 The RFL can’t afford to suitably fund expansion in London or France, how would it afford it in Perth or any other NRL expansion destination?
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 Just now, Sports Prophet said: The RFL can’t afford to suitably fund expansion in London or France, how would it afford it in Perth or any other NRL expansion destination? They would receive the NRL tv money like all NRL sides. That would go along way in SL. Could probably afford all England players not already in the NRL add to that a core of NRL players for the first few years.
Whippet13 Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 Why would SL teams bother running academies if the best young players disappeared off to play in the NRL? It would quickly turn the current trickle into a flood.
sam4731 Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 11 minutes ago, bobbruce said: The discussion on the NRL having an input into to SL has me thinking about an idea I’ve had for a while. What if we reversed that and the RFL took over an NRL expansion side. Perth for example it could be run as a development tool for England players. Unless England players were put on central contracts, how would you expect SL clubs to just send their best English players to Perth to aid their development?
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 13 minutes ago, bobbruce said: They would receive the NRL tv money like all NRL sides. That would go along way in SL. Could probably afford all England players not already in the NRL add to that a core of NRL players for the first few years. It's an interesting idea that England do the same as PNG and NZ.....just join as a nation Maybe the NRL's main goal is just that.....NRL become international RL
Bedfordshire Bronco Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 7 minutes ago, sam4731 said: Unless England players were put on central contracts, how would you expect SL clubs to just send their best English players to Perth to aid their development? Would a share of the NRL money allow them to make Central Contracts ? ....unbelievably it is actually making me consider it!! Ha ha
John bird Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 Would be the final nail in the coffin for domestic RL in England.
John bird Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said: It's an interesting idea that England do the same as PNG and NZ.....just join as a nation Maybe the NRL's main goal is just that.....NRL become international RL NZ and PNG don’t have a professional league.
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 12 minutes ago, Whippet13 said: Why would SL teams bother running academies if the best young players disappeared off to play in the NRL? It would quickly turn the current trickle into a flood. This is going to happen anyway with NRL central funding at $13m+ and only going one way. The best players are going to end up there anyway at least we would have a bit of control of it.
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 14 minutes ago, sam4731 said: Unless England players were put on central contracts, how would you expect SL clubs to just send their best English players to Perth to aid their development? You just pick up off contract players no SL club could compete for wages. It’s just it could be run to the benefit to the England team. I’m not saying you would have the full England team in as some wouldn’t go and others would sign for established NRL clubs. It could be run to develop British players.
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 10 minutes ago, John bird said: Would be the final nail in the coffin for domestic RL in England. I think it could give the amateur game in England a real boost as young kids see the opportunity. If pro clubs can’t see the benefits it wouldn’t surprise me the good clubs would though I’m sure.
gingerjon Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 46 minutes ago, bobbruce said: The discussion on the NRL having an input into to SL has me thinking about an idea I’ve had for a while. What if we reversed that and the RFL took over an NRL expansion side. Perth for example it could be run as a development tool for England players. Are fans in Perth going to turn out to watch a Pommies Development XIII? Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 1 minute ago, gingerjon said: Are fans in Perth going to turn out to watch a Pommies Development XIII? I don’t know but there are a lot of expats in that area.
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 3 minutes ago, gingerjon said: Are fans in Perth going to turn out to watch a Pommies Development XIII? Just to add I’m not saying this would be purely run as an England team it would have to be run as a proper NRL team with some experienced NRL players in there especially at the start. Just with an eye on doing it to the benefit of the England team. You could even scout a few South African players as they also have a large expat community in the area.
ATLANTISMAN Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 Only way forward is with an NRL (Europe) conference 8 clubs max
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 2 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Only way forward is with an NRL (Europe) conference 8 clubs max What’s the benefit though they aren’t suddenly get £billions in a tv deal just because the NRL is involved.
John bird Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 18 minutes ago, ATLANTISMAN said: Only way forward is with an NRL (Europe) conference 8 clubs max I like it. a bit like the old NFL Europe from 90’s with the London monarchs and Scottish claymores .
sam4731 Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 3 hours ago, bobbruce said: You just pick up off contract players no SL club could compete for wages. It’s just it could be run to the benefit to the England team. I’m not saying you would have the full England team in as some wouldn’t go and others would sign for established NRL clubs. It could be run to develop British players. So a SL player with a year left on his contract has to make a decision either to sign a contract extension with his current club or risk being without a club to have a chance of playing for Perth?
bobbruce Posted May 27, 2024 Author Posted May 27, 2024 45 minutes ago, sam4731 said: So a SL player with a year left on his contract has to make a decision either to sign a contract extension with his current club or risk being without a club to have a chance of playing for Perth? No it would be run like any other team just ran by the RFL. Most British players in the NRL were signed off contract.
N2022 Posted May 27, 2024 Posted May 27, 2024 8 hours ago, bobbruce said: I don’t know but there are a lot of expats in that area. There are a lot of people in London, but only 1 in 5,000 of them go to each Broncos game. Still, 150,000 Brits living in Perth apparently, so on a similar ratio that's at least 30 tickets sold ...
bobbruce Posted May 28, 2024 Author Posted May 28, 2024 6 hours ago, N2022 said: There are a lot of people in London, but only 1 in 5,000 of them go to each Broncos game. Still, 150,000 Brits living in Perth apparently, so on a similar ratio that's at least 30 tickets sold ... I thought Perth had already proved it can sell tickets for RL.
Sports Prophet Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 2 hours ago, bobbruce said: I thought Perth had already proved it can sell tickets for RL. 17 hours ago, bobbruce said: This is going to happen anyway with NRL central funding at $13m+ and only going one way. The best players are going to end up there anyway at least we would have a bit of control of it. It requires a lot more than just $13m+ in central funding to financially support a NRL club. This is a non starter Bob. If the RFL want to “develop” home grown players, they would be better off investing time, energy and finances into improving those opportunities at home, instead of in Perth or another NRL destination.
Harry Stottle Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 On 27/05/2024 at 14:24, bobbruce said: They would receive the NRL tv money like all NRL sides. That would go along way in SL. Could probably afford all England players not already in the NRL add to that a core of NRL players for the first few years. No disrespect Bob, but this does sound a lot like how France were going to develop internationally with the advent of Catalan Dragons.
Gomersall Posted May 28, 2024 Posted May 28, 2024 On 27/05/2024 at 19:37, bobbruce said: No it would be run like any other team just ran by the RFL. Most British players in the NRL were signed off contract. You’d let the RFL run it?
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