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After some interesting comments on rugby what ifs forum I want to play a simulation in which we collectively simulate the trajectory of rugby league/rugby union as sports based on each submission 

The rules:

Simply quote the previous person and add on to what they have stated ideally accounting for all prior submissions. 

No consecutive submissions by a single person unless 3 or more days have passed.

 

1900: The Welsh governing body adopts Northern Union rules. Scotland/Ireland win the subsequent Rugby Union Home Nations Championship.

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50 minutes ago, SouthBedfordshireFan said:

After some interesting comments on rugby what ifs forum I want to play a simulation in which we collectively simulate the trajectory of rugby league/rugby union as sports based on each submission 

The rules:

Simply quote the previous person and add on to what they have stated ideally accounting for all prior submissions. 

No consecutive submissions by a single person unless 3 or more days have passed.

 

1900: The Welsh governing body adopts Northern Union rules. Scotland/Ireland win the subsequent Rugby Union Home Nations Championship.

The last sentence (from memory) in the book The Forbidden Game - The Untold Story by Mike Rylance was:-

"If Rugby League had never been Invented, today we would only have Rugby League"

Which I took to mean that Union would have evolved to make their game more open, attractive and aesthetically pleasing, but could not copy Rugby League in doing so.

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1 hour ago, SouthBedfordshireFan said:

1900: The Welsh governing body adopts Northern Union rules. Scotland/Ireland win the subsequent Rugby Union Home Nations Championship.

1901: Pontypridd become the first Welsh club to win the Challenge Cup Final.

Wales lose to England in the first Northern Union Test Match.

edit note* did I do that right?

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3 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

1901: Pontypridd become the first Welsh club to win the Challenge Cup Final.

Wales lose to England in the first Northern Union Test Match.

edit note* did I do that right?

1902: The Northern Rugby Football Union decide to change the name of the sport from Northern Union to TryBall to distinguish it from Rugby Union as people had thought the Test Match was just Rugby Union. They had considered Rugby League but this was deemed problematic as it was too similar to Rugby Union.

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2 minutes ago, Damien said:

1902: The Northern Rugby Football Union decide to change the name of the sport from Northern Union to TryBall to distinguish it from Rugby Union. They had considered Rugby League but this was deemed problematic as it was too similar to Rugby Union.

1903-1905 - inspired by the thriving Lancs, Yorks and South Wales comp, more clubs move from Rugby Union to Try Ball, including those in Sheffield, Barnsley, Rotherham, Burnley, Blackburn and Preston. 

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24 minutes ago, Eddie said:

1903-1905 - inspired by the thriving Lancs, Yorks and South Wales comp, more clubs move from Rugby Union to Try Ball, including those in Sheffield, Barnsley, Rotherham, Burnley, Blackburn and Preston. 

1906-1909 - Teams in Cumbria make big drives to poach Rugby Union players from Scotland. Ireland starts to dominate the Rugby Union Home Championships. The RFU and WRU declare bankruptcy and assimilate into the RFL.

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49 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

1906-1909 - Teams in Cumbria make big drives to poach Rugby Union players from Scotland. Ireland starts to dominate the Rugby Union Home Championships. The RFU and WRU declare bankruptcy and assimilate into the RFL.

1906-1909 - The pre RFU dissolution organised rugby union tour to New Zealand results in the adoption of the game of TryBall there. 

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3 hours ago, Eddie said:

1903-1905 - inspired by the thriving Lancs, Yorks and South Wales comp, more clubs move from Rugby Union to Try Ball, including those in Sheffield, Barnsley, Rotherham, Burnley, Blackburn and Preston. 

Hartlepool Rovers joins the Northern Rugby League in 1895 with South Shields and then Gateshead in 1903 etc

Scottish Borders join up as well.

Micheal Cusack unhappy with the elitism in Rugby Union and the rise of Soccer forms the All Ireland Rugby League in agreement with the Northern League

The Victorian game is split in Australia with the the formation of the Victorian Rugby Football League which would be become the national Football code in Australia alongside its northern couterparys the NSW Rugby League while the VFA would go to Soccer FA rules.

In Canada the East Divsion and West Divison would form the CRFL and move away from first Rugby Union and then the Gridiron game.

Eggface be then a happy bunny.

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5 hours ago, EggFace said:

Hartlepool Rovers joins the Northern Rugby League in 1895 with South Shields and then Gateshead in 1903 etc

Scottish Borders join up as well.

Micheal Cusack unhappy with the elitism in Rugby Union and the rise of Soccer forms the All Ireland Rugby League in agreement with the Northern League

The Victorian game is split in Australia with the the formation of the Victorian Rugby Football League which would be become the national Football code in Australia alongside its northern couterparys the NSW Rugby League while the VFA would go to Soccer FA rules.

In Canada the East Divsion and West Divison would form the CRFL and move away from first Rugby Union and then the Gridiron game.

Eggface be then a happy bunny.

1910-1920

A two separate tours to South Africa are arranged. One from Britain and one from New Zealand/Australia. They both are in South Africa at the same time. However South Africa has developed its own football code derived from the game played at Winchester school. One member each from the touring party noticed the lack of adoption of this African code of football among the Afrikaners. Therefore the touring party spread the game to that section of South African society.

The assassination of Archduke Ferdinand breaks out and Europe and the rest of the world plunges into war. All competitive Tryball ceases with players moving to the war front however this resulted in the contact of Tryballers from all over to be in contact leaving a legacy in France. In Amiens players establish the Federation of International Tryball Associations.

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The war is quickly over as the two sides agree that the outcome should be decided by a Tryball match on Christmas Day 1914.

The Allies win by 10 points to 8.

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On 30/05/2024 at 15:33, unapologetic pedant said:

After which the value of the drop goal was reduced. Or was that 1919?

If you say so.  This is the alternative history.

"We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!"

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On 30/05/2024 at 08:27, sam4731 said:

1914- As a condition in the Treaty of Versaille, Germany is forced to adopt TryBall as their national sport.

1914-1920 With the end of the war international tours resumed with the tours from the Antipodes to Europe and vice versa stopover on the West coast of North America establishing the game of Tryball in the Western United States and strengthening the Western teams in the CRFL such that the top 10 teams of the CRFL out of the 20 for the next 6 seasons are all from the Western half of the country. 

US Professional Tryball League is established with the following teams:

WA: Seattle, Spokane, Yakima

CA: Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Sacramento, Fresno, Bakersfield

NM: Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Las Cruces

TX: El Paso

ID: Boise

NV: Reno, Las Vegas

UT: Salt Lake City, Provo

Oregon: Portland, Eugene

 

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42 minutes ago, SouthBedfordshireFan said:

1914-1920 With the end of the war international tours resumed with the tours from the Antipodes to Europe and vice versa stopover on the West coast of North America establishing the game of Tryball in the Western United States and strengthening the Western teams in the CRFL such that the top 10 teams of the CRFL out of the 20 for the next 6 seasons are all from the Western half of the country. 

US Professional Tryball League is established with the following teams:

WA: Seattle, Spokane, Yakima

CA: Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego, Sacramento, Fresno, Bakersfield

NM: Santa Fe, Albuquerque, Las Cruces

TX: El Paso

ID: Boise

NV: Reno, Las Vegas

UT: Salt Lake City, Provo

Oregon: Portland, Eugene

 

1920: On the eve of the creation on the NFL, TryBall bosses strike a deal to create a joint governing body to promote both games under the same banner. They name the new organisation WorldBall.

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1 hour ago, Damien said:

Well he did say the war was finished in 1914.

But it was never started as they caught Gavrillo Princip and Nedeljko Nabrinovic before the planned attack.

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1 minute ago, EggFace said:

But it was never started as they caught Gavrillo Princip and Nedeljko Nabrinovic before the planned attack.

Don't think you get this game 😂

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1 minute ago, EggFace said:

I thought I was doing quite well till that one.

No worries. It might be worth to recap what has taken place so people need not to scroll back to ensure consistency.

1900: Wales adopts Northern Union Rules

1901: Pontypridd wins Challenge Cup

1902: Northern Union is named Tryball

1903-1905: more clubs switch from Rugby Union to Tryball

1906-09: Scottish players adopt Tryball by playing for Cumbrian clubs; RFU and WRU merge into the RFL; a tour to New Zealand establishes Tryball there; tryball is adopted in Ireland; NSW, Qld and parts of Victoria adopt Tryball too; Canada establishes a Tryball league.

1910-1920: Tours to South Africa are arranged. An African Rules football game has been created based on Winchester School football; Afrikaners adopt Tryball; in Amiens an International Tryball Federation is created; the war ends early after a Tryball match and Germany is forced to adopt Tryball as a national sport; The US Tryball League is established with teams primarily based in the Western half of the country.

1920: The NFL and International Tryball Federation merge to create a WorldBall organisation to promote the games.

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On 01/06/2024 at 17:48, sam4731 said:

1920: On the eve of the creation on the NFL, TryBall bosses strike a deal to create a joint governing body to promote both games under the same banner. They name the new organisation WorldBall.

1921: the African Rules game also join this organisation to push back the influence of soccer and an agreement is made to promote each game wherever possible and support the game that is most capable of challenging soccer in that region/community. 

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