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1 hour ago, graveyard johnny said:

I have a problem with the word "EARN " used in this context - scaffolders putting 6 lifts round the town hall clock in January "EARN"  their wage

I have a problem with the word "EARN " used in this context - a VP of Learning who knocks out a pivot table before lunch to work out which of their courses are generating the most revenue "EARN" their wage

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Surely we can agree that someone who has trained hard enough, and has the skill, to play international RL has 'earned' their wage. 

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It’s just appalling, it makes RL look what it is, small time 

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Why is it always people that have never played or represented their country in any competition/sport that usually are the ones that say.

"You shouldn't be paid to represent the country, they should be playing for the pride of the shirt!"  

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The rewards for playing rugby league are nowhere near what they should be for a multitude of reasons, but paying international players a £250 match fee is staggeringly poor. I agree players should have pride in their shirt and shouldn't be particularly motivated by money to represent their country but, at the same time, they should be paid an amount that correspondingly elevates the achievement of reaching that level.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Click said:

Why is it always people that have never played or represented their country in any competition/sport that usually are the ones that say.

"You shouldn't be paid to represent the country, they should be playing for the pride of the shirt!"  

IMO the players are professionals and should be rewarded for playing. They still have bills to pay like the rest of us and playing RL is their job. If they choose or can afford not to accept any payment for representing their country good luck to them.

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23 hours ago, phiggins said:

Not sure I agree with players not being paid at all. They should be given fair pay for their work in relation to the amount of money that the organisers are making. Sadly, I suspect £250 is a fair reflection of how much money the RFL are making out of the events. 

It'd be interesting if players didn't receive a payment. It'd sort out the one's that "really" want to play for their country and those that don't.

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1 hour ago, moorside roughyed said:

It'd be interesting if players didn't receive a payment. It'd sort out the one's that "really" want to play for their country and those that don't.

You'd only be able to make that judgement if all players circumstances were identical, which they never will be.

A 30 year old who has already had a good career and made decent money playing in SL and/or the NRL, might be happy to pull on an England shirt and play for pride and £250.

But a 20 year old, who could have an equal desire to play for England, might think the prudent thing is to turn down the cap and concentrate on their club career that will give them and their family the best possible life.

I think you'd possibly end up with only older players putting their names forward.

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1 hour ago, 17 stone giant said:

You'd only be able to make that judgement if all players circumstances were identical, which they never will be.

A 30 year old who has already had a good career and made decent money playing in SL and/or the NRL, might be happy to pull on an England shirt and play for pride and £250.

But a 20 year old, who could have an equal desire to play for England, might think the prudent thing is to turn down the cap and concentrate on their club career that will give them and their family the best possible life.

I think you'd possibly end up with only older players putting their names forward.

Or players who aren’t deserving if the team was selected on merit rather than only those who can afford it.

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3 hours ago, moorside roughyed said:

It'd be interesting if players didn't receive a payment. It'd sort out the one's that "really" want to play for their country and those that don't.

Another comment to add to my firm belief that a lot of the modern RL fraternity would have stayed in the Union in 1895.

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18 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Another comment to add to my firm belief that a lot of the modern RL fraternity would have stayed in the Union in 1895.

I wouldn't have stayed in the union. I just think that to represent your country should be an honor and above money. 

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2 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:

You'd only be able to make that judgement if all players circumstances were identical, which they never will be.

A 30 year old who has already had a good career and made decent money playing in SL and/or the NRL, might be happy to pull on an England shirt and play for pride and £250.

But a 20 year old, who could have an equal desire to play for England, might think the prudent thing is to turn down the cap and concentrate on their club career that will give them and their family the best possible life.

I think you'd possibly end up with only older players putting their names forward.

Perhaps a younger player might put his hands up to play for England in the hope that being an international might increase his club wages. Just saying.

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1 hour ago, moorside roughyed said:

I wouldn't have stayed in the union. I just think that to represent your country should be an honor and above money. 

And therefore well beyond the reach of those pesky non-Corinthian types.

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Hearing the RFL have struck a ground breaking agreement with Klarna, the players will now get their £250 per match over three monthly payments. 

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1 hour ago, Phil W said:

Hearing the RFL have struck a ground breaking agreement with Klarna, the players will now get their £250 per match over three monthly payments. 

OMG just how close to the edge are they if they can't even afford a bit more than 6,000 £ in one-time payments for the players???

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Posted
12 minutes ago, Big Picture said:

OMG just how close to the edge are they if they can't even afford a bit more than 6,000 £ in one-time payments for the players???

I don’t think Phil was being serious BP. At least I hope he wasn’t.

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2 minutes ago, Gomersall said:

I don’t think Phil was being serious BP. At least I hope he wasn’t.

Yeah I was only joking but this is rugby league so it'll probably be on an article somewhere tomorrow!

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Phil W said:

Yeah I was only joking but this is rugby league so it'll probably be on an article somewhere tomorrow!

Serious about Rugby League are copying and pasting as we speak... 

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So I'm a bit on the Fence on this one

On the one hand, most of us would play for our country for free, but then its not our day job to play RL, we do other jobs. I'm a project manager (sad I know), but if I was asked to PM a project say for the King (hence by default for the country), I would still expect to be paid for it, I would not do it for free, just because Charles asked me to. Same is somebdy asked me to PM the Olympic games, I'd expect to be paid for it.

So personally I think players should be paid if they are playing for the national team, as RL is their day job.  Now they could always turn it down, donate it to a RL charity etc, but we are a professional sport, that means that the players are paid to play.  The fact they are playing for the national team to me is irrelvant, if the sport is a professional one

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Question loosely linked to this. What kind of deals do England RFL have with SL clubs for, say, insurance and compensation? A player might play Eng for minimal fee, but who, if anyone, pays them if they get seriously injured on international duty?

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On 19/06/2024 at 21:59, Mathius Hellwege said:

1.000 GBP according to RFL when the daily payments for the camp are included 

If correct, this is sharing the bulk of payment evenly across the squad rather than being focused on match fees to create equality. Sensible approach.

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