Dual reg.

[bromleybulldog]

Wakefield Trinity secure dual-reg partner despite link-up with Super League rival - YorkshireLive

 

Matthew Shaw confirming that we have linked up with Wakefield Trinity for the next season

[phildog]

Now, the usual argument of how much we use it, do we swap and change every 2 weeks and keep pushing a signed player out, do we use it to plug any injury gaps, do we go for season-long loans for lads to buy in to Batley Bulldogs? We know we need to use the system, which we haven't done successfully in the past, to keep up with this year's top 6 even though fans mightn't like it, but not in a way which upsets our way.

[Keep The Faith]

14 minutes ago, phildog said:

Now, the usual argument of how much we use it, do we swap and change every 2 weeks and keep pushing a signed player out, do we use it to plug any injury gaps, do we go for season-long loans for lads to buy in to Batley Bulldogs? We know we need to use the system, which we haven't done successfully in the past, to keep up with this year's top 6 even though fans mightn't like it, but not in a way which upsets our way.

We use the quality they have to offer… if we can get the everyone else would do 

[distantdog]

1 hour ago, Keep The Faith said:

We use the quality they have to offer… if we can get the everyone else would do 

I think there is a balance to be had. As an example, l think Robbie Butterworth deserves a prolonged run in the side this season. If that is to be at full back, what do you do if we are offered Rourke for a game? I'm never convinced that those short term players are much of an answer. Last season, l thought Hooley was useful and l thought Nixon Putt was a useful addition too. I suspect they were the ones who played the most on DR (maybe Kibula too). So the balance is developing and trusting our own players over the course of the season, or using short-term gap fillers. Of course, there is a third way with DR. Long term DR additions who know they are going to be with us for a substantial length of time and get to know us.

[Keep The Faith]

2 hours ago, distantdog said:

I think there is a balance to be had. As an example, l think Robbie Butterworth deserves a prolonged run in the side this season. If that is to be at full back, what do you do if we are offered Rourke for a game? I'm never convinced that those short term players are much of an answer. Last season, l thought Hooley was useful and l thought Nixon Putt was a useful addition too. I suspect they were the ones who played the most on DR (maybe Kibula too). So the balance is developing and trusting our own players over the course of the season, or using short-term gap fillers. Of course, there is a third way with DR. Long term DR additions who know they are going to be with us for a substantial length of time and get to know us.

Robbie for me is a 6 but we won’t move our current 6 to 13 

[distantdog]

Just now, Keep The Faith said:

Robbie for me is a 6 but we won’t move our current 6 to 13 

Fair enough, for what it's worth, l agree that RB might be worth a shot at 6. But it's not my point - which was, how does the club choose to use DR? Do they have a strategy for it that takes into account our own players and their development, or do they just take anybody Wakefield offer.

[Keep The Faith]

1 hour ago, distantdog said:

Fair enough, for what it's worth, l agree that RB might be worth a shot at 6. But it's not my point - which was, how does the club choose to use DR? Do they have a strategy for it that takes into account our own players and their development, or do they just take anybody Wakefield offer.

Best of asking the club or Coach… 

[distantdog]

2 hours ago, Keep The Faith said:

Best of asking the club or Coach… 

Why on earth would l do that when l can put it as a discussion point on here and read the interesting and fulfilling replies?

[LINNERS]

7 hours ago, distantdog said:

Fair enough, for what it's worth, l agree that RB might be worth a shot at 6. But it's not my point - which was, how does the club choose to use DR? Do they have a strategy for it that takes into account our own players and their development, or do they just take anybody Wakefield offer.

https://wakefieldtrinity.com/trinity-and-batley-enter-into-dual-registration-agreement/

A few quotes in here from Batley officials. Would be good for them to put the quotes in an article on our website so we can get them sweet sweet clicks.

[Keep The Faith]

5 hours ago, distantdog said:

Why on earth would l do that when l can put it as a discussion point on here and read the interesting and fulfilling replies?

So the fans like myself you and Phil pick the team? Or the squad? 
 

If you look at their numbers and things we’ll end up with a Lawford, Booth, Lingard and Croft 

[distantdog]

6 hours ago, Keep The Faith said:

So the fans like myself you and Phil pick the team? Or the squad? 
 

Sounds like a plan.

[distantdog]

7 hours ago, Keep The Faith said:

So the fans like myself you and Phil pick the team? Or the squad? 

Oh by the way KTF, I never suggested this. I was openly musing (on a public forum god forbid!!) whether our club might have an approach to DR. I then gave an example of what l was thinking. I was interested in any possible replies from some of the people who regularly post on here. This is because l am genuinely interested in the views of others on here, whether l agree with them or not. 

Surely that's the essence of a forum? 

[phildog]

Same discussion every year when we get a pair-up, we try sensible discussion every year. More often than not, apart from Aiden McGowan who we got a great season out of, we end up getting little help anyway ie the number of times this last season when we had DR names in the declared squad but the faces weren't seen in the ground on match day. I've been vociferous in the past about getting a good DR partnership to keep up with other clubs (over) using, taking the p, about it, but I also try and put myself in the mind of the player who has come to Batley because he wanted to, only to find himself pushed out by a player who isn't necessarily keen on been thrown out by his own club and maybe less interested in going to wherever he's being sent. So, our coach has to be sure on both levels that the thing works whilst not affecting our results on the field. If we're going to use it, get someone in either young enough to take on the Batley ethos, possibly long-term, or someone who comes in with no prejudices.

[gittinsfan]

On 07/11/2024 at 17:19, phildog said:

Same discussion every year when we get a pair-up, we try sensible discussion every year. More often than not, apart from Aiden McGowan who we got a great season out of, we end up getting little help anyway ie the number of times this last season when we had DR names in the declared squad but the faces weren't seen in the ground on match day. I've been vociferous in the past about getting a good DR partnership to keep up with other clubs (over) using, taking the p, about it, but I also try and put myself in the mind of the player who has come to Batley because he wanted to, only to find himself pushed out by a player who isn't necessarily keen on been thrown out by his own club and maybe less interested in going to wherever he's being sent. So, our coach has to be sure on both levels that the thing works whilst not affecting our results on the field. If we're going to use it, get someone in either young enough to take on the Batley ethos, possibly long-term, or someone who comes in with no prejudices.

The thing wrong with DR is Wakefield will want some benefit out of this arrangement.If they want to send a player to us to gain match fitness and we say no,then they may not be so keen  to help us when we want cover for injuries.

Unfortunately we have to take the rough with yhe smooth.

[Blind side johnny]

On 08/11/2024 at 22:02, gittinsfan said:

The thing wrong with DR is Wakefield will want some benefit out of this arrangement.If they want to send a player to us to gain match fitness and we say no,then they may not be so keen  to help us when we want cover for injuries.

Unfortunately we have to take the rough with yhe smooth.

Are they any different to other SL clubs in this respect?

[gittinsfan]

3 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Are they any different to other SL clubs in this respect?

Of course not.I said that's what is wrong with DR.I used Wakefield as an example because we are on the Batley forum.

[The scrim reaper]

I guess this the end of Hooley playing for us then? 

[Keep The Faith]

17 hours ago, The scrim reaper said:

I guess this the end of Hooley playing for us then? 

Why… anything can happen with Hooley ourselves and Castleford 

[phildog]

Which brings us back to Robbie's progression....

[Kevin Nicholas]

DR is always a tricky topic with mixed views to say the least. I personally am unsure about it but the discussions we have had with Wakefield has filled us with more optimism than ever before. Only time will tell but if this relationship does not work we will be surprised and obviously disappointed. All i can say is that we are very positive that it can work hopefully for both Clubs. Ste Mills at Wakefield has had links with us doing work for coaches for a few years now and knows Moko well. Then Matt Ellis as new to RL administration is a breathe of fresh air for our sport of that there is no doubt. Once he gets settled in SL and then knows how it works at both levels of our sport he will bring a lot of integrity and common sense to the table which is very promising going forward.