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7 hours ago, Sports Prophet said:

I will stop short of suggesting @The Rocket gives touch Aussie Rules (AFL 9s) a go, but it is growing in popularity without being anywhere close to touch rugby participation. Good for a run out though. I enjoy playing AFL 9s more than touch footy.

I can only imagine what a schmozzle it must be.

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, HawkMan said:

Why is Soccer dominant in a country with no real Soccer history , certainly internationally or locally in terms of a top pro league, ( A league is awful), and why is basketball number 1 in Victoria? You'd think the number 1 participation sport would translate to a top pro league. Does every Aussie Soccer fan just follow A European team or the EPL? This seems bizarre to me.

Edit ; Does the Soccer figures include other formats as the League figures do? Futsal, five- a- side?

I spent many years attending suburban soccer in Canberra. My local suburban soccer club has around 15 to 20 teams in the youngest age group and then 1 (sometimes 2) team in the early teen age groups. It’s an absolutely massive sport for tiny kids. The drop out rate is huge as they lose interest.

The kids generally supported non Australian soccer teams and NRL teams. The club would even have a “Go Raiders!” sign up occasionally.

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Here's a question for the Oz posters,  Tasmanian sport ? Rugby League, Fumbleball, Soccer,  what goes on down there? We don't hear about that on this side of the planet.🤷‍♂️

Posted
4 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Well, on the one hand, we have an independent and thorough survey with a published methodology that has shown that the world's two most popular team sports by participation are popular in Australia and then broken down the rest.

And, on the other, some old blokes and their vibes.

I'll go with the fact based one for now. 

More Tackle players than Touch players. Fact or vibe?

Our survey says 💩. Which hints at flawed methodology.

The last UK census reported substantially higher rates of trans identities among people born overseas. This correlation was a fact and remained a fact until some analysts (possibly old blokes) started having vibes that something might be amiss.

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2 hours ago, Copa said:

The kids generally supported non Australian soccer teams and NRL teams. The club would even have a “Go Raiders!” sign up occasionally.

It was the same when I was growing up on the mid-north coast, League was huge and I reckon at school on sports day the split was probably 50/50 League Soccer and pretty much the same on weekends. Back in those days everyone followed Rugby League, even the soccer participants, very few would have followed EPL.

Having said that League at junior levels is still very strong in the larger regional towns and I`d say going close to matching it with soccer, a few of the smaller towns would no longer field league teams, but they might have a soccer team.

I remember when I was about 14 our village fielded a soccer team for a couple of years, one team we came up against was a team from a neighbouring small town whos` League team were playing soccer for a year, let`s put it this way, they were very physical.

 

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17 hours ago, corkonian77 said:

The addition  of Kiwis could  lead to a decline in playing numbers in Australia. 

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So the NRL will be like NFL with a large number of players being Afro American.

Posted
11 hours ago, HawkMan said:

Here's a question for the Oz posters,  Tasmanian sport ? Rugby League, Fumbleball, Soccer,  what goes on down there? We don't hear about that on this side of the planet.🤷‍♂️

Tasmania Jackjumpers are the current NBL champions while the cricket team is usually competitive in Sheffield Shield and BBL. They have a team entering the AFL in 2027 I think.

Posted (edited)
On 29/11/2024 at 19:36, HawkMan said:

Why is Soccer dominant in a country with no real Soccer history , certainly internationally or locally in terms of a top pro league, ( A league is awful), and why is basketball number 1 in Victoria? You'd think the number 1 participation sport would translate to a top pro league. Does every Aussie Soccer fan just follow A European team or the EPL? This seems bizarre to me.

Edit ; Does the Soccer figures include other formats as the League figures do? Futsal, five- a- side?

Yes. It is that simple.

It's not bizarre at all. We have an enormous diaspora of Britons and Europeans living in this country. 

There are a minority of elitists who call anyone that chooses to watch European leagues over the domestic league as Eurosnobs. Well, I've been following the PL since the mid-90s, and people older than me before then. The A-League was created in the mid-2000s. 

Most football fans developed an affinity for a European club long before the A-League came around. 

The PL's international broadcast rights are now worth more than the domestic rights. What's bizarre is the attitude the English fans have towards this. It's very easy for someone who lives 10,000kms away to follow Liverpool or United. In fact, here in Australia, we have way better coverage than you do in Blighty (all games live and on-demand), and it costs us way less.

 

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I don’t think the numbers originally posted stack up.

Basketball has had more failed teams and new starts than any other major sport I can think of other than maybe football/soccer

If there are that many Basketball fans why would that be the case?

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

I believe the most popular sport in Australia is FISHING.

Cricket is the National sport apparently.

Football/soccer is a game that parents or the Schools have the kids play at School similar to Basketball and Volleyball.

Few go on to play those sports after leaving School.

Football/Soccer was bigger in Australia in the past when the immigrants came from European nations where it was the major sport in their homeland.

Many immigrants to Australia currently are from India, China or Kiwi/ Indian, Chinese heritage.

Cricket will do ok and maybe Fishing.

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, EggFace said:

So the NRL will be like NFL with a large number of players being Afro American.

In my humble  opinion  it appears  so. 

But in NRL case of Polynesian heritage. 

Unless some magic system  can be developed at youth level to keep  players from other backgrounds  involved. 

 

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7 hours ago, Jonty58 said:

I don’t think the numbers originally posted stack up.

Basketball has had more failed teams and new starts than any other major sport I can think of other than maybe football/soccer

If there are that many Basketball fans why would that be the case?

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

I believe the most popular sport in Australia is FISHING.

Cricket is the National sport apparently.

Football/soccer is a game that parents or the Schools have the kids play at School similar to Basketball and Volleyball.

Few go on to play those sports after leaving School.

Football/Soccer was bigger in Australia in the past when the immigrants came from European nations where it was the major sport in their homeland.

Many immigrants to Australia currently are from India, China or Kiwi/ Indian, Chinese heritage.

Cricket will do ok and maybe Fishing.

 

 

 

That is not the case.

Only 1 team has ‘failed’ in the NBL in the last 10 years…the Townsville Crocodiles. Its a league that has successfully expanded to Tasmania and added a second team in Melbourne and has participants in every state and in new zealand. It has competitive balance with 5 different champions in the last 10 years. It has sponsorships with major national companies.

Its a league that sends players to the NBA, has players from US sign as an alternative route to NBA to the US college system.

It has a TV contract with ESPN covering every game live. Most teams play in large stadiums. Brisbane, for example, have moved stadium twice in the last 8 years to accommodate bigger crowds.

 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Anita Bath said:

That is not the case.

Only 1 team has ‘failed’ in the NBL in the last 10 years…the Townsville Crocodiles. Its a league that has successfully expanded to Tasmania and added a second team in Melbourne and has participants in every state and in new zealand. It has competitive balance with 5 different champions in the last 10 years. It has sponsorships with major national companies.

Its a league that sends players to the NBA, has players from US sign as an alternative route to NBA to the US college system.

It has a TV contract with ESPN covering every game live. Most teams play in large stadiums. Brisbane, for example, have moved stadium twice in the last 8 years to accommodate bigger crowds.

 

Yes you are right, I stand corrected.

I was thinking of the times in the 90’s to around 2014 where teams came and went like yoyo’s

 

 

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