Untapped Potential

[Eddie]

4 minutes ago, EggFace said:

CFL never was a minor League from what I have read about it in the 1950s to 80s but it seems to be not getting any better and be and be comparison it's like Super League while NRL is like the NFL in a way.

They average 23k per match, it’s def not minor league. 

[gingerjon]

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

They average 23k per match, it’s def not minor league. 

It is by gridiron standards.

[Eddie]

17 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

It is by gridiron standards.

Agreed, but so is every other sport in North America. 

[Big Picture]

3 hours ago, EggFace said:

CFL never was a minor League from what I have read about it in the 1950s to 80s but it seems to be not getting any better and be and be comparison it's like Super League while NRL is like the NFL in a way.

For decades the CFL has been full of coaches and players who would rather be in the NFL except they aren't good enough.  It's been the gridiron equivalent of triple-A baseball and the AHL for a long time now.

[gingerjon]

42 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Agreed, but so is every other sport in North America. 

Highest paid CFL player - $600k pa

Lowest paid MLB player - $740k

[Eddie]

25 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Highest paid CFL player - $600k pa

Lowest paid MLB player - $740k

I was taking about other sports and the NFL, I didn’t for one minute try to compare CFL with MLB. 

[sam4731]

4 hours ago, Eddie said:

They average 23k per match, it’s def not minor league. 

Minor league is just what American sports class as feeder leagues, which the CFL isn't because it's a completely different sport to American Football with different rules. Therefore it is major league but of its own sport.

[EagleEyePie]

The difference in wages in the US compared to the UK means there would be absolutely no incentive when it comes to Super League.

Maybe there's a better chance when it comes to the NRL but I think overall it would be high risk, low reward.

[BristolDevonCharlie]

One of main problems with ex-college footballers is how long it will take to get them up to speed in a couple of key aspects of rugby. 

Firstly on stamina.The average play in American Football lasts 4 seconds. Whereas in Rugby League you can be on the move for 10 to 15 minutes at a time. They'd be going from ball in play time of circa 11 minutes with unlimited substitutions to over 60 minutes with eight interchanges. They would need to get fit quick. 

Secondly is ball handling. Watching a lot of American Football I am astounded by how few people touch the ball in the course of a game. Plus whilst wide receivers, tight ends, (occasionally) running backs and some defenders catch the ball, generally only quarterbacks throw it, overarm. Watch some of the nutty plays at the end of games when they try and 'lateral' it to string the play out attempting to score, and it is obvious very few learn how to handle the ball well. At the higher levels of RL that takes years to master. 

Whilst the physicality of American Footballers is impressive, the likelihood of getting many to easily transfer is not high. Persistance will be needed, all round. 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by BristolDevonCharlie

[Eddie]

37 minutes ago, BristolDevonCharlie said:

One of main problems with ex-college footballers is how long it will take to get them up to speed in a couple of key aspects of rugby. 

Firstly on stamina.The average play in American Football lasts 4 seconds. Whereas in Rugby League you can be on the move for 10 to 15 minutes at a time. They'd be going from ball in play time of circa 11 minutes with unlimited substitutions to over 60 minutes with eight interchanges. They would need to get fit quick. 

Secondly is ball handling. Watching a lot of American Football I am astounded by how few people touch the ball in the course of a game. Plus whilst wide receivers, tight ends, (occasionally) running backs and some defenders catch the ball, generally only quarterbacks throw it, overarm. Watch some of the nutty plays at the end of games when they try and 'lateral' it to string the play out attempting to score, and it is obvious very few learn how to handle the ball well. At the higher levels of RL that takes years to master. 

Whilst the physicality of American Footballers is impressive, the likelihood of getting many to easily transfer is not high. Persistance will be needed, all round. 

 

If I understand it correctly the QB can’t pass it to some members of his offence, even if he wanted to. 

[gingerjon]

7 minutes ago, Eddie said:

If I understand it correctly the QB can’t pass it to some members of his offence, even if he wanted to. 

Have fun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eligible_receiver

[BristolDevonCharlie]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

If I understand it correctly the QB can’t pass it to some members of his offence, even if he wanted to. 

Yes, as per @gingerjon's link, only certain offensive players can receive the one forward pass allowed on each play, however all players are allowed to receive a 'lateral'. 

[Sports Prophet]

1 hour ago, gingerjon said:

Have fun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eligible_receiver

And this is why the NFL have 47 umpires dotted around the pitch with yellow hankies.

Interesting fact, when the NFL experimented with European development, the French umpires used to use white flags instead of yellow, because the NFL thought they would use local traditions where possible to make the game more attractive to the locals.

[Damien]

3 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Have fun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eligible_receiver

Geez I've watched American Football for over 30 years and didn't know this.