Wigan Friendly

[Pigeon Lofter]

4 hours ago, sheddingswasus said:

 

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What percentage would you estimate were Wigan fans? Thanks.

[Bert Street]

2 minutes ago, Pigeon Lofter said:

What percentage would you estimate were Wigan fans? Thanks.

Maybe 500 from Wigan. Mainly in the Rochdale Rd.

[Stevos Barber]

12 hours ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

I know it was a friendly and it's about getting game time and ironing out the snags, but at least we won the second half. Can't wait for Wednesday,  need to get a decent pair of gloves and ear warmers though. How did I survive winter rugby up at sheddings? Oh that's right i was much younger!!

I can remember, back in the nineties, When Saturday Comes, the football fanzine had a fan poll every year and Boundary Park was always listed as the coldest ground in the Football League 

[shrewsbury roughyed]

11 minutes ago, Stevos Barber said:

I can remember, back in the nineties, When Saturday Comes, the football fanzine had a fan poll every year and Boundary Park was always listed as the coldest ground in the Football League 

Cue for the affectionate memories about how much colder it was at our spiritual home of Watersheddings!!!

[Stevos Barber]

11 minutes ago, shrewsbury roughyed said:

Cue for the affectionate memories about how much colder it was at our spiritual home of Watersheddings!!!

Birthplace of cryogenics

[shrewsbury roughyed]

4 minutes ago, Stevos Barber said:

Birthplace of cryogenics

Looking at the advanced age of many of us fans you could well be right!

[Bert Street]

2 hours ago, shrewsbury roughyed said:

Cue for the affectionate memories about how much colder it was at our spiritual home of Watersheddings!!!

There was a Wiganer sat behind me wearing shorts. Odd behaviour.

Very high pie sales in In the Rochdale Rd.

[Stevos Barber]

2 hours ago, Bert Street said:

There was a Wiganer sat behind me wearing shorts. Odd behaviour.

Very high pie sales in In the Rochdale Rd.

Makes up for the World Cup game at the DW I couldn't get a pie before the game or at half time! In Wigan! I thought the world was going to end

 

[jroyales]

I know it was only a friendly and Wigan left out some of their big guns, but the side they put out I'm sure would have held its own against many superleague sides.

Having said that with a better start, a little more luck and a decent ref we could, and should have won. Like someone on this site has said Wigan were knackered towards the end but we were still forcing the game late on. Looking forward to the Law Cup on Wednesday, just hope all of the lads came through OK. Then Rochdale again on Sunday i.e. Mayfield in the cup.

It's a shame the promise they made about them bringing all of their trophies didn't materialise but it was good to see our trophies.

[Tim G]

It was great to see so many youngsters attending the match yesterday.   Mike and Bill's hard work off the field too,seems to be paying off big time. I was wondering what sort of crowd we would get if we proceed to later stages of the cup. Wigan, Leeds, Hull at Boundary Park? Would 6to 8 thousand be a possibility?  When you look at where we have come from in less than 2 years, the thought gives me goosebumps about how far we could go. In my lifetime I have never seen such a professional outlook by the current men in charge. Thanks again 

[Bedford Roughyed]

 

[Pigeon Lofter]

Three seconds into the game, "....and rugby league starts in 2025 with a knock-on..." But, it didn't.

The ball clearly went backwards, why do referees have no intelligent concept of what a knock-on, (according to the published laws), actually is? RU have sorted out that a knock-on has to be projected forward, yet we in RL seem confused by a simple definition, when it would be so easy to adjudicate correctly.

"Knock On means to knock the ball towards the opponent's dead ball line with hand or arm." 

 

[Anita Bath]

8 hours ago, jroyales said:

I know it was only a friendly and Wigan left out some of their big guns, but the side they put out I'm sure would have held its own against many superleague sides.

Having said that with a better start, a little more luck and a decent ref we could, and should have won. Like someone on this site has said Wigan were knackered towards the end but we were still forcing the game late on. Looking forward to the Law Cup on Wednesday, just hope all of the lads came through OK. Then Rochdale again on Sunday i.e. Mayfield in the cup.

It's a shame the promise they made about them bringing all of their trophies didn't materialise but it was good to see our trophies.

No worries, Hornets wont be leaving any trophies at home. As soon as I finish typing Ill be looking for the right size Asda bag to bring them in.

Have to make sure there is room for the Law Cup.

[tandle]

just watched the highlights on youtube.

the second try by wigan which was a high kick.

there was 3 wigan players yards off side and i mean yards.

should have been a penalty to oldham.

and the first try after a alleged knock on.

the ball went backwords  not a knock on.

[roughyed8]

4 hours ago, tandle said:

just watched the highlights on youtube.

the second try by wigan which was a high kick.

there was 3 wigan players yards off side and i mean yards.

should have been a penalty to oldham.

and the first try after a alleged knock on.

the ball went backwords  not a knock on.

Ref was a YTS trainee

Just watched it and he points at the offside players then ignores the offsides when Dixon drops the ball

Edited January 21 by roughyed8

[Bert Street]

3 hours ago, tandle said:

just watched the highlights on youtube.

the second try by wigan which was a high kick.

there was 3 wigan players yards off side and i mean yards.

should have been a penalty to oldham.

and the first try after a alleged knock on.

the ball went backwords  not a knock on.

Fair point on the second try.

[sheddingswasus]

2 hours ago, roughyed8 said:

Ref was a YTS trainee

Just watched it and he points at the offside players then ignores the offsides when Dixon drops the ball

He was the same “ref” that we had at Keighley when we won the league. He was dreadful that day and was on Sunday. I read somewhere that he is one of the refs being fast tracked. As one of the Wigan fans near us said, please don’t let him anywhere near SL

[tandle]

watched it again just look how close the wigan player is to dixon when he looses the ball about 2 foot, the ref should have blown for a oldham penalty way before then.

just a question can a linesman flag for a forward pass ?

[m brooksy]

Stats-

Johnson-7 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. 8 carries=57m

Sambou-9 tackles. 4 misses. one offload. 4 tackle breaks. one clean break. 12 carries=111m

Thornley-one tackle. one miss. one tackle break. one clean break. 4 carries=33m

Turner-5 tackles. one offload. 5 carries=34m

Dixon-one tackle. one miss. 2 tackle breaks. one clean break. 9 carries=45m

Craven-13 tackles. one miss. one tackle break. 3 carries=6m

Drinkwater-11 tackles. one miss. one try assist. 2 carries=7m

Dudson-13 tackles. 4 carries=32m

Wildie-30 tackles. 2 misses. 

Baxter-24 tackles. one tackle break. 6 carries=22m

Ashurst-26 tackles.2 misses. 3 carries=13m

Taylor-33 tackles. 2 misses. one clean break. 2 carries=30m

Milner-13 tackles. 2 misses. 3 carries=9m

subs

Aldridge-22 tackles. one miss. one carry=4m

J Chapelhow-30 tackles. one miss. one tackle break. one clean break. 9 carries=75m

T Chapelhow-15 tackles. 2 misses. 5 carries=46m

Moran-41 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. one tackle break. 10 carries=66m

O'Keefe-6 tackles. 4 carries=24m

Tyrer-3 tackles. 3 tackle breaks. 5 carries=41m

Farnworth-20 tackles. 2 misses. 6 carries=43m

Forster-13 tackles. 2 misses. 2 carries=8m

Agoro-3 tackles. 4 carries=36m

Dean-7 tackles. one miss. one offload. one tackle break. 2 try assists. 5 carries=28m

Astley-6 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. 3 tackle breaks. one clean break. 5 carries=39m

Kopzcak-7 tackles. 2 misses. 3 carries=21m

Obviously a massive caveat on the stats because of the huge amount of subs but still some interesting stats. Moran and Jay were superb of the bench.

[shrewsbury roughyed]

3 hours ago, m brooksy said:

Stats-

Johnson-7 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. 8 carries=57m

Sambou-9 tackles. 4 misses. one offload. 4 tackle breaks. one clean break. 12 carries=111m

Thornley-one tackle. one miss. one tackle break. one clean break. 4 carries=33m

Turner-5 tackles. one offload. 5 carries=34m

Dixon-one tackle. one miss. 2 tackle breaks. one clean break. 9 carries=45m

Craven-13 tackles. one miss. one tackle break. 3 carries=6m

Drinkwater-11 tackles. one miss. one try assist. 2 carries=7m

Dudson-13 tackles. 4 carries=32m

Wildie-30 tackles. 2 misses. 

Baxter-24 tackles. one tackle break. 6 carries=22m

Ashurst-26 tackles.2 misses. 3 carries=13m

Taylor-33 tackles. 2 misses. one clean break. 2 carries=30m

Milner-13 tackles. 2 misses. 3 carries=9m

subs

Aldridge-22 tackles. one miss. one carry=4m

J Chapelhow-30 tackles. one miss. one tackle break. one clean break. 9 carries=75m

T Chapelhow-15 tackles. 2 misses. 5 carries=46m

Moran-41 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. one tackle break. 10 carries=66m

O'Keefe-6 tackles. 4 carries=24m

Tyrer-3 tackles. 3 tackle breaks. 5 carries=41m

Farnworth-20 tackles. 2 misses. 6 carries=43m

Forster-13 tackles. 2 misses. 2 carries=8m

Agoro-3 tackles. 4 carries=36m

Dean-7 tackles. one miss. one offload. one tackle break. 2 try assists. 5 carries=28m

Astley-6 tackles. 2 misses. one offload. 3 tackle breaks. one clean break. 5 carries=39m

Kopzcak-7 tackles. 2 misses. 3 carries=21m

Obviously a massive caveat on the stats because of the huge amount of subs but still some interesting stats. Moran and Jay were superb off the bench.

Ankara for this. Interesting reading. Not a lot of metres made beyond clean breaks but that was inevitable given the opposition and the early time of the season. It’s the not always noticed hard tackling stuff that is impressive. As you say, Moran and JC were excellent, particularly Pat Moran. Elijah Taylor always gives 100% in defence, too. He’s all about work, work, work and a real leader. Respect is due. 

[The Grinder]

On 21/01/2025 at 12:07, tandle said:

just watched the highlights on youtube.

the second try by wigan which was a high kick.

there was 3 wigan players yards off side and i mean yards.

should have been a penalty to oldham.

and the first try after a alleged knock on.

the ball went backwords  not a knock on.

This one of the rule changes for 2025, see details here: https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/docs/Law Changes - 2025.pdf

Snip:

>>>>>

Offside Kick Chasers

Referees and video referees will now differentiate between active and passive players when awarding penalties for offside. An active player will be defined as one who takes part in and/or influenced the course of the game.

A passive player will be defined as one who does not influence the course of the game.

>>>>>

So it becomes like offside in football, at the discretion of the ref as to "...who does not influence the course of the game..." going to be lots of complaints about that during the year.

Edited January 22 by The Grinder

[tandle]

6 minutes ago, The Grinder said:

This one of the rule changes for 2025, see details here: https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/docs/Law Changes - 2025.pdf

Snip:

>>>>>

Offside Kick Chasers

Referees and video referees will now differentiate between active and passive players when awarding penalties for offside. An active player will be defined as one who takes part in and/or influenced the course of the game.

A passive player will be defined as one who does not influence the course of the game.

>>>>>

So it becomes like offside in football, at the discretion of the ref as to "...who does not influence the course of the game..." going to be lots of complaints about that during the year.

so grinder are you saying that the 3 wigan players who chased the kick where passive players. never in a month of sundays they had been worned by the ref that they where offside and carried on with intent. plain and simple off side.

[Bert Street]

1 hour ago, The Grinder said:

This one of the rule changes for 2025, see details here: https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/docs/Law Changes - 2025.pdf

Snip:

>>>>>

Offside Kick Chasers

Referees and video referees will now differentiate between active and passive players when awarding penalties for offside. An active player will be defined as one who takes part in and/or influenced the course of the game.

A passive player will be defined as one who does not influence the course of the game.

>>>>>

So it becomes like offside in football, at the discretion of the ref as to "...who does not influence the course of the game..." going to be lots of complaints about that during the year.

Thanks for that information.

Have just rewatched with that in mind.

All three players to the right of the kicker are in front, one of whom catches the rebound and passed to another for the try.

So you would think it is still offside. 

Made much simpler if Dixon makes the catch. Very impressed with Agoro and Tyrer on Sunday. Less so Dixon.

Interesting to see how football ability vs goalkicking plays out.

 

Edited January 22 by Bert Street
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[shrewsbury roughyed]

48 minutes ago, Bert Street said:

Thanks for that information.

Have just rewatched with that in mind.

All three players to the right of the kicker are in front, one of whom catches the rebound and passed to another for the try.

So you would think it is still offside. 

Made much simpler if Dixon makes the catch. Very impressed with Agoro and Tyrer on Sunday. Less so Dixon.

Interesting to see how football ability vs goalkicking plays out.

 

As Brian Clough said about the offside rule in football -“If they’re not interfering with play, what the hell are they doing on the pitch?” Or words to that effect.

[oldham maxonian]

Shrewsbury roughyed had it dead right as to why Elijah got League Express man of the match - tho Jay, Moran, Astley were also contenders.