IMG, it might be working?

[Bedfordshire Bronco]

53 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

So, with that in mind, what score would you have given them for the financial section, and what then would have been their overall score?

Salford should have negative score for financials...disgraceful they have been allowed to sign/pay for top notch players and be in such a financial mess

[Damien]

14 minutes ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

You do realise this is a forum don't you Damien? 

I.e. differing opinions 

Well yes of course there are different opinions and it's more nuanced. Its pretty obvious what was meant by 2 sides in the post I replied to and that you were either one or the other and no in between.

The rest of my post that you selectively ignored and didn't quote went into that and why it was more nuanced than that black and white view of just 2 viewpoints. I'm literally saying there are more opinions than being pigeonholed into one or the other.

[gittinsfan]

1 hour ago, Tommygilf said:

Again, that's why they scored so lowly for their finances...

But surely,when this grading system is meant to determine the strongest 12 clubs.these low scores on finance should have raised red flags somewhere.

[Charlie]

7 minutes ago, gittinsfan said:

But surely,when this grading system is meant to determine the strongest 12 clubs.these low scores on finance should have raised red flags somewhere.

Think it shows you how poor the rest of the clubs are 

[LeeF]

2 hours ago, Tommygilf said:

Again, that's why they scored so lowly for their finances...

Stop providing evidence it will blow his mind

[LeeF]

1 hour ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

What's a ninnyhammer? 

Probably someone who claims that a club lied and then can’t provide any evidence to support so resorts to throwing insults around

[Bedfordshire Bronco]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

Well yes of course there are different opinions and it's more nuanced.

No worries.....just checking you remembered 

[Salford Devil]

2 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

Salford should have negative score for financials...disgraceful they have been allowed to sign/pay for top notch players and be in such a financial mess

Salford are a basket case but you can't just make it up as you go along.

[Tommygilf]

1 hour ago, gittinsfan said:

But surely,when this grading system is meant to determine the strongest 12 clubs.these low scores on finance should have raised red flags somewhere.

As Charlie said, it's not Salford's fault they can a) make up the difference elsewhere in the gradings, and b) that the rest of the clubs are so bad they can't overtake them.

And likewise, if Salford did go into administration, they would automatically be downgraded from B to C and therefore relegated from Super League.

[Salford Devil]

17 hours ago, Damien said:

This outlook pretty much sums it up. Why should there be sides? Again this type of viewpoint seems to be held exclusively by those very much anti IMG and ignores the fact that it is far more nuanced than that.

I am supportive of the process because I think something needs to change and the game needs to do far better in just about every area. I'm not even sure if its the road I would go down and there is plenty I would do differently. Indeed my preference would be far different. I am certainly not on the side of a billion pound corporation. It is though better than nothing.

Yes I agree. I don't know if IMG is the way to go and I doubt it will benefit my club in the long run but the game has to progress and can't keep doing the same and expecting it to work.

[Archie Gordon]

6 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

...

And likewise, if Salford did go into administration, they would automatically be downgraded from B to C and therefore relegated from Super League.

This was softened recently to losing half your finance score.

[Salford Devil]

2 hours ago, Bedfordshire Bronco said:

You do realise this is a forum don't you Damien? 

I.e. differing opinions 

That's exactly what he's saying, and you ignored it to just be combative. No offence, but this style of posting where people overlook what’s actually said to instead attack others has really made this forum a much worse place. Every thread is now littered by it and by the same people.

As a largely long time lurker who has enjoyed reading this forum for a long time it's pretty sad to see.

[gittinsfan]

10 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

As Charlie said, it's not Salford's fault they can a) make up the difference elsewhere in the gradings, and b) that the rest of the clubs are so bad they can't overtake them.

And likewise, if Salford did go into administration, they would automatically be downgraded from B to C and therefore relegated from Super League.

That's all fair comment, but if the grading system is to recognise the 12 strongest clubs then something went wrong.If Salford were to go into administration in say March the season would be a farce.

[lucky 7]

On 23/12/2024 at 19:42, LeeF said:

Don’t blame IMG they aren’t the ones who made that decision. The numbers in SL is a decision made by the clubs. 
 

BTW London under their previous ownership were a poorly run club

Are Salford a well run club?

[redjonn]

7 minutes ago, lucky 7 said:

Are Salford a well run club?

that depends upon what or whose definition of a well run club is..

[lucky 7]

1 minute ago, redjonn said:

that depends upon what or whose definition of a well run club is..

Indeed it does, so lets make this simple who were the worst 2 run clubs in Super League this past season in your opinion?

[redjonn]

1 minute ago, lucky 7 said:

Indeed it does, so lets make this simple who were the worst 2 run clubs in Super League this past season in your opinion?

again and sorry to be a pain that depends upon the definition and knowing internal information to make an assessment.

Nevertheless based upon knowing almost nowt .... strike that... should say knowing nowt

Hull FC seemed to have had a poorly run team across all aspects over the last couple of seasons...looking forward to them improving. No idea about their financial aspects but one would have to suspect not too well otherwise they may have invested more valued time, effort & monies into the playing side.

London seemingly have had an investor over many years that the club could have done more with the money invested. The last season being a result of the poor running over those wasted years.

Although must be said they managed their cash flow better than Salford and maybe cut their cloth accordingly to meet their finances.

 

[LeeF]

33 minutes ago, lucky 7 said:

Are Salford a well run club?

Define well run club

[lucky 7]

1 minute ago, LeeF said:

Define well run club

Small debts. Good sponsors and a good junior development program and working in schools.

[lucky 7]

2 hours ago, LeeF said:

Probably someone who claims that a club lied and then can’t provide any evidence to support so resorts to throwing insults around

Just like you have as you don't know the meaning of the word.

Little wonder Salford have financial problems with people like you in their corner.

Are you the comptroller there?