NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) 17 year old hooker playing for Villeneuve. The kid is seriously seriously special. The second youngest player in Super XIII and already one of the best hookers in the competition. Small player only around 5’3 but as insanely good defender, will one and one tackle players genuinely double his size with ease and can put on a big shot. In attack he reads the game very well, great passing game and deception out of dummy half. Very quick and dangerous running game. He plays way out of his years, you would think you’re watching a 25 year old watching him play but he still doesn’t turn 18 for 5 months. He is one of the best 2007 born players in the world. He has world class potential in my opinion. Obviously a big issue is his size, which may be an issue at NRL or SL Level, but he is still only 17 and I’m sure he will grow plenty. Edited December 22, 2024 by NRLandSL 1
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DoubleD said: Are you his agent? Just commenting on a good player as a lot of people do on this forum. Not everyday a 17 year old is starring agaisnt grown men in a semi-pro/pro comp. Edited December 22, 2024 by NRLandSL 5
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 5 hours ago, NRLandSL said: 17 year old hooker playing for Villeneuve. The kid is seriously seriously special. The youngest player in Super XIII and already one of the best hookers in the competition. Small player only around 5’4 but as insanely good defender, will one and one tackle players genuinely double his size with ease and can put on a big shot. In attack he reads the game very well, great passing game and deception out of dummy half. Very quick and dangerous running game. He plays way out of his years, you would think you’re watching a 25 year old watching him play but he still doesn’t turn 18 for 5 months. He is one of the best 2007 born players in the world. He has world class potential in my opinion. Obviously a big issue is his size, which may be an issue at NRL or SL Level, but he is still only 17 and I’m sure he will grow plenty. Another good performance this weekend? 1
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 5’4 is seriously small for top flight RL but like you say maybe he hasn’t stopped growing and can get to 5’6 at least.
Griff Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 30 minutes ago, warriors 95 said: 5’4 is seriously small for top flight RL but like you say maybe he hasn’t stopped growing and can get to 5’6 at least. Remind me how tall Rob Burrow was. 3 1 "We'll sell you a seat .... but you'll only need the edge of it!"
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 10 minutes ago, Griff said: Remind me how tall Rob Burrow was. 5’5 according to wiki
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 1 hour ago, warriors 95 said: 5’4 is seriously small for top flight RL but like you say maybe he hasn’t stopped growing and can get to 5’6 at least. Maybe even taller hopefully, Men only stop growing at around 20, I’ve heard of a lot of people having late growth spurts where they grow 5+ inches after 17.
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 1 hour ago, warriors 95 said: Another good performance this weekend? Yeah another solid performance, especially defensively, it amazes me how he can tackle 100+ kg front rowers with ease and drops them on their backs by himself. Very good organising in attack aswell and great deception.
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, NRLandSL said: Maybe even taller hopefully, Men only stop growing at around 20, I’ve heard of a lot of people having late growth spurts where they grow 5+ inches after 17. Hopefully so. Being 5’4 shouldn’t hamper his prospects and career if he has the talent but getting to at least 5’6 would make life so much easier for him.
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Just now, NRLandSL said: Yeah another solid performance, especially defensively, it amazes me how he can tackle 100+ kg front rowers with ease and drops them on their backs by himself. Very good organising in attack aswell and great deception. Did he start or come on for the bench?
barnyia Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 He is 1m 58, 60kg he started off the bench. He played really well and even put our aussie 6 foot 4 105 kg prop on his back best player in the world is a big statement, I was speaking to his coach yesterday and he says he's special but doesn't think he can go much higher due to his height etc, but we all hope he can, you never know, He reads the game well, he's smaller than guasch.
Charlie Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 59 minutes ago, barnyia said: He is 1m 58, 60kg he started off the bench. He played really well and even put our aussie 6 foot 4 105 kg prop on his back best player in the world is a big statement, I was speaking to his coach yesterday and he says he's special but doesn't think he can go much higher due to his height etc, but we all hope he can, you never know, He reads the game well, he's smaller than guasch. I’ve always thought France struggled in the pack is there any good props coming through
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 hour ago, barnyia said: He is 1m 58, 60kg he started off the bench. He played really well and even put our aussie 6 foot 4 105 kg prop on his back best player in the world is a big statement, I was speaking to his coach yesterday and he says he's special but doesn't think he can go much higher due to his height etc, but we all hope he can, you never know, He reads the game well, he's smaller than guasch. Tbf I think the op meant best player at this age group. Was he on the French junior tour to Australia recently? 1
barnyia Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 No he played in the u17s against England in Nantes, 1
barnyia Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 9 minutes ago, Charlie said: I’ve always thought France struggled in the pack is there any good props coming through Adrien de la rose who is the youngest player in elite, he turned 17 last month, Giovanni at the catalans is 18 and a good prospect too, 2 1
barnyia Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, warriors 95 said: Tbf I think the op meant best player at this age group. Was he on the French junior tour to Australia recently? Even in his age group i reckon there may be a couple of Aussies a little better, 1
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, barnyia said: He is 1m 58, 60kg he started off the bench. He played really well and even put our aussie 6 foot 4 105 kg prop on his back best player in the world is a big statement, I was speaking to his coach yesterday and he says he's special but doesn't think he can go much higher due to his height etc, but we all hope he can, you never know, He reads the game well, he's smaller than guasch. I am pretty confident he has grown since that last measurement. I didn’t say he is one of the best players in the world, I assume you’re referring to me saying he is one of the best 2007 born playrers. I think that is a fair comment, guys like Onitoni Large, Haemasi Makasini, Rex Bassingthwaite are better but he is not far behind. I watch a lot of Junior Australian rugby league and Beauvilliers would without a doubt be one of the best players in Harold Matthew’s (U17s) comp. Let’s hope he grows because he undoubtedly has the skill set to go right to the top. As mentioned though Rob Burrow is an all time great at only 5’5 so anything is possible. Edited December 22, 2024 by NRLandSL 1
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, barnyia said: Adrien de la rose who is the youngest player in elite, he turned 17 last month, Giovanni at the catalans is 18 and a good prospect too, Really think these juniors should spend a couple of seasons down under in the Aussie youth competitions and reserve grade comps. 1
barnyia Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 Just now, NRLandSL said: I am pretty confident he has grown since that last measurement. I didn’t say he one of the best players in the world, I assume you’re referring to me saying he is one of the best 2007 born playrers. I think that is a fair comment guys like Onitoni Large, Haemasi Makasini, Rex Bassingthwaite are better but he is not far behind. I watch a lot of Junior Australian rugby league and Beauvilliers would without a doubt be one of the best players in Harold Matthew’s (U17s) comp. Let’s hope he grows because he undoubtedly has the skill set to go right to the top. As mentioned though Rob Burrow is an all time great at only 5’5 so anything is possible. My son was at the creps school in Toulouse with him last season, he was chatting with him yesterday, he's still the same height, he may grow but he's never going to be tall,
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 13 minutes ago, Charlie said: I’ve always thought France struggled in the pack is there any good props coming through Giovanni Desclazi-Ganthier 2006 Catalans Adrian De La Rose 2007 Limoux Sacha Kouassi 2005 Villenueve Alexis Lis 2005 Avignon these guys are certainly the best front rowers coming through. 1
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 1 hour ago, warriors 95 said: Did he start or come on for the bench? Came off the bench after about 15 minutes but then played the rest of the game, that’s how Villeneuve use him most of the time. Similiar to Harry Grant for the storm in the past.
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, barnyia said: Even in his age group i reckon there may be a couple of Aussies a little better, And kiwis. 1
NRLandSL Posted December 22, 2024 Author Posted December 22, 2024 7 minutes ago, barnyia said: No he played in the u17s against England in Nantes, Won player of the tournament as well I read. 1
warriors 95 Posted December 22, 2024 Posted December 22, 2024 1 minute ago, NRLandSL said: Came off the bench after about 15 minutes but then played the rest of the game, that’s how Villeneuve use him most of the time. Similiar to Harry Grant for the storm in the past. Sounds like good game management by villeneuve.xx
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