2025 Attendance Thread

[Ethereal]

5 hours ago, RayCee said:

SL attendance progress report:

https://rugbyl.blogspot.com/2025/05/super-league-attendances-2025-rounds-1-9.html

Great work as usual. 

If you remove London/Wakefield's figured and the Vegas game, do you know what the like for like averages would be?

[Damien]

Great TV figures for Women's SOO, allied to a record SOO crowd. It'll be really interesting what happens with TV rights for the women's game come the next negotiations:

 

Edited May 2 by Damien

[Pulga]

50 minutes ago, Damien said:

Great TV figures for Women's SOO, allied to a record SOO crowd. It'll be really interesting what happens with TV rights for the women's game come the next negotiations:

 

And what a game! Legitimately the best women's sport I've ever seen barring possibly tennis.

[Damien]

4 minutes ago, Pulga said:

And what a game! Legitimately the best women's sport I've ever seen barring possibly tennis.

In its own right it must be worth a decent TV deal, women's soccer got one.

[Exiled Wiganer]

2 hours ago, Ethereal said:

Great work as usual. 

If you remove London/Wakefield's figured and the Vegas game, do you know what the like for like averages would be?

I think the average drops about 1k if you lose the frankly ridiculous Vegas figure they have included for Wigan. So, still good.
 

However, it deserves a much deeper dive. For instance, how skewed is it by FC having had 2 home derbies, and, as you say, to what extent is the increase simply a result of Trinity for London? 

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

I think the average drops about 1k if you lose the frankly ridiculous Vegas figure they have included for Wigan. So, still good.
 

However, it deserves a much deeper dive. For instance, how skewed is it by FC having had 2 home derbies, and, as you say, to what extent is the increase simply a result of Trinity for London? 

I get what you’re saying but other sports wouldn’t worry about stuff like that, if Bournemouth went down and Leeds went up the PL would be saying their attendances are up for example. 

[Ethereal]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

I get what you’re saying but other sports wouldn’t worry about stuff like that, if Bournemouth went down and Leeds went up the PL would be saying their attendances are up for example. 

There's the PR side and the analysis side.

The PR side you take the best figure and trumpet it everywhere.

From the analysis side it would be interesting/useful to know the most like for like comparisons possible.

[RayCee]

12 hours ago, Ethereal said:

Great work as usual. 

If you remove London/Wakefield's figured and the Vegas game, do you know what the like for like averages would be?

Thanks for the appreciation.

If the Vegas figure is removed, the increase for Wigan is 30.2% increase which is still a good figure. When I went to see what Wakefield's difference made, I realised I'd made a mistake with the totals and average. I'll fix that and then see what difference Wakey has had. 

 

[RayCee]

12 hours ago, Ethereal said:

If you remove London/Wakefield's figured and the Vegas game, do you know what the like for like averages would be?

By replacing Wakefield's first four games with London's first four from 2024, the total goes down from 17.0% to 13.7%. 

Thanks for showing the interest in the subject in a positive way, in wanting more detail. Some can be superficially quick to see negatives with a 'glass half empty' attitude. 

[Exiled Wiganer]

21 minutes ago, RayCee said:

By replacing Wakefield's first four games with London's first four from 2024, the total goes down from 17.0% to 13.7%. 

Thanks for showing the interest in the subject in a positive way, in wanting more detail. Some can be superficially quick to see negatives with a 'glass half empty' attitude. 

Thanks a million for your work. This is of course only a snapshot, and includes what are likely to be the 3 biggest home crowds of the year, and the loaded Good Friday fixture list. Which is good PR, but may give a misleading impression as to where we might end up. We shall see! 

[RayCee]

14 minutes ago, Exiled Wiganer said:

Thanks a million for your work. This is of course only a snapshot, and includes what are likely to be the 3 biggest home crowds of the year, and the loaded Good Friday fixture list. Which is good PR, but may give a misleading impression as to where we might end up. We shall see! 

Attendances can vary across a full season too. It gives a glimpse of what is happening but the end of the season figure is the critical one.

[Dave T]

Any mention of today's crowd? Rare for it not to be announced on social media and stuff. 

[langpark]

Thunder did not publish a figure last night either. Which sadly, makes me suspect it was underwhelming at best. 

[The Masked Poster]

On 02/05/2025 at 13:29, Eddie said:

I get what you’re saying but other sports wouldn’t worry about stuff like that, if Bournemouth went down and Leeds went up the PL would be saying their attendances are up for example. 

Correct. Bradford City had a full house today but they wouldn't say "normally during a rubbish season it would only be X"

[Odsal Outlaw]

50 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Any mention of today's crowd? Rare for it not to be announced on social media and stuff. 

I’ve also had a look and can’t find it anywhere. Unusual at a magic weekend.

[The Masked Poster]

18 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

I’ve also had a look and can’t find it anywhere. Unusual at a magic weekend.

They used to always announce it on the day, very strange. 

 

[sweaty craiq]

Fixtures play a huge role Wigan ( great to see those numbers btw) benefited from Saints and Leigh games at home, Leigh have only had Wire as an ‘attractive’ fixture and have had little away support from Hudds/wakey/Cats as the other 3 home games. Hull have had the derby etc

SL and RL is definitely on the up again - and will continue to rise after what will be a record Ashes series on free to air but please import Aussie commentators for it

All this puts us in a good place to negotiate a tv deal NOW using the NRL rumours/threats to drive the deal back to where it should be or lose it.

[Worzel]

On 02/05/2025 at 11:25, Exiled Wiganer said:

I think the average drops about 1k if you lose the frankly ridiculous Vegas figure they have included for Wigan. So, still good.
 

However, it deserves a much deeper dive. For instance, how skewed is it by FC having had 2 home derbies, and, as you say, to what extent is the increase simply a result of Trinity for London? 

I agree that we need more matches to assess trends and ascribe meaning, but also as a sport we need to sell the sizzle not just the sausage so I’m fully behind RL Commercial spruiking our stats. 

[Exiled Wiganer]

1 hour ago, sweaty craiq said:

Fixtures play a huge role Wigan ( great to see those numbers btw) benefited from Saints and Leigh games at home, Leigh have only had Wire as an ‘attractive’ fixture and have had little away support from Hudds/wakey/Cats as the other 3 home games. Hull have had the derby etc

SL and RL is definitely on the up again - and will continue to rise after what will be a record Ashes series on free to air but please import Aussie commentators for it

All this puts us in a good place to negotiate a tv deal NOW using the NRL rumours/threats to drive the deal back to where it should be or lose it.

The sport would be insane to lock in a deal before hearing what the NRL are offering, if anything. If, as rumoured, they are interested in major investment with a few tweaks to the structure then a comparison between the respective TV deals available would be a key factor. 

[up the robins]

For a sport that is apparently dying and on life support and in desperate need of rescuing, how dare you  post such a positive attendance report @RayCee. 

A great little report and as a sport we should be shouting about or success, because there aren't many sports which have growing attendance figures. 

[EggFace]

It looked like 20,000 yesterday for MW and it was Hull KR who seemed to have the biggest and loudest crowd with Leigh 2nd but Leeds v St.Helens game seemed quite low but it was freezing by the start of that game.

[Odsal Outlaw]

Dave Woods just confirmed that this will be the first Magic where day 2 has a  bigger crowd than day 1.

[bratman]

2 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

Dave Woods just confirmed that this will be the first Magic where day 2 has a  bigger crowd than day 1.

That'll be all the pie-eaters!

[langpark]

10 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

Dave Woods just confirmed that this will be the first Magic where day 2 has a  bigger crowd than day 1.

Great analysis, while still not providing us with any real figures.  Safe to say it's been a failure?

[langpark]