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17 hours ago, Eddie said:

 

Actually semi final attendances. 

 

Hull KR/ Catalans- 8,480

Leigh/Warrington- 11,722

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17 hours ago, turn it in said:

If the Perth bears model works and is successful i.e. we see big crowds in Perth and the away support for the bears in Sydney helps swell attendances etc then i can see calls for poorly supported clubs in Sydney like Cronulla copying Perth bears and relocating to Adelaide getting louder.

id also move the dragons to Wollongong fulltime with 1 or 2 dragons “home” games played at Kogarah and especially Allianz for dragons v roosters.

I want a team on the Central Coast.

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6 hours ago, Eddie said:

I think there should be over 60k for this final though, KR might take more than they did to the Leigh final. 

The final with 60k should be played else where it's not a good look on tv.

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1 minute ago, EggFace said:

The final with 60k should be played else where it's not a good look on tv.

Definitely needs to be played in the north for me going forward.

the newly expanded 62k etihad stadium Manchester fits the bill nicely.

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7 minutes ago, EggFace said:

The final with 60k should be played else where it's not a good look on tv.

Where would you play it? Wembley is the traditional home of the CC final and is the most famous stadium in the world, it’s a good thing for our sport to play there imho, and it’s not all about armchair seat counters. 

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3 minutes ago, turn it in said:

Definitely needs to be played in the north for me going forward.

the newly expanded 62k etihad stadium Manchester fits the bill nicely.

Further contraction and the final in the same city as the GF. There’s also no guarantee that crowds would be the same at Man City as they are at Wembley, I suspect they’d be smaller after the novelty quickly wore off. 

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Just now, Eddie said:

Where would you play it? Wembley is the traditional home of the CC final and is the most famous stadium in the world, it’s a good thing for our sport to play there imho, and it’s not all about armchair seat counters. 

It's a final that should be celebrated with a full house and i don't know the answer how to get a full house at Wembley but like the Super Bowel it should be mob=ved around and i'm not the only one thinking that.

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10 minutes ago, EggFace said:

I want a team on the Central Coast.

Would be nice but the only problem is that the central coast has vibes of being a smaller version of the Gold Coast in that RL fans in the region already have their own teams to support.

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3 minutes ago, EggFace said:

It's a final that should be celebrated with a full house and i don't know the answer how to get a full house at Wembley but like the Super Bowel it should be mob=ved around and i'm not the only one thinking that.

The FA Cup, league cup, fa trophy, fa vase and play offs finals aren’t moved around. America is an enormous country without a national stadium so moving the SB each year makes sense, less so in England.  Also once we gave Wembley up it would be very hard to get it back as it’s so heavily subscribed, and we’d be stuck playing at unappealing club football grounds with nowhere near the attraction of Wembley. 

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1 minute ago, turn it in said:

Would be nice but the only problem is that the central coast has vibes of being a smaller version of the Gold Coast in that RL fans in the region already have their own teams to support.

It's the perfect size for a Syndey team to move to and I always thought Cbus capacity is a bit to generous and a Central Coast sized stadium on the Gold Coast would of been perfect.

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4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Further contraction and the final in the same city as the GF. There’s also no guarantee that crowds would be the same at Man City as they are at Wembley, I suspect they’d be smaller after the novelty quickly wore off. 

Im just not convinced that the weekend/day out in London has the same pull as it did 20-30 years ago and that cities like Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle etc are just as popular if not more popular with people these days.

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1 minute ago, Eddie said:

The FA Cup, league cup, fa trophy, fa vase and play offs finals aren’t moved around. America is an enormous country without a national stadium so moving the SB each year makes sense, less so in England.  Also once we gave Wembley up it would be very hard to get it back as it’s so heavily subscribed, and we’d be stuck playing at unappealing club football grounds with nowhere near the attraction of Wembley. 

I so see you point but I would love to see CC final and SL moved around....Wembley doesn't do it for me anymore.....i'm still stuck in 1994.

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1 minute ago, turn it in said:

Im just not convinced that the weekend/day out in London has the same pull as it did 20-30 years ago and that cities like Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle etc are just as popular if not more popular with people these days.

It’s Wembley though, the attraction of that can’t be underestimated. An annual trip to Anfield or Man City would have nowhere near the appeal. 

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1 minute ago, EggFace said:

I so see you point but I would love to see CC final and SL moved around....Wembley doesn't do it for me anymore.....i'm still stuck in 1994.

Do you go to the CC final (not sure if you live in England)? 

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1 minute ago, Eddie said:

It’s Wembley though, the attraction of that can’t be underestimated. An annual trip to Anfield or Man City would have nowhere near the appeal. 

Declining Wembley attendances would suggest otherwise.

if Newcastle utd build a new stadium or ever expand st James park then that’s another venue/city to add to Manchester and Liverpool to rotate the challenge cup final around.

maybe even throw Edinburgh into the mix also.

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8 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Do you go to the CC final (not sure if you live in England)? 

No I'm armchair person unless it's local.

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20 minutes ago, turn it in said:

Definitely needs to be played in the north for me going forward.

the newly expanded 62k etihad stadium Manchester fits the bill nicely.

50 posts now, you're halfway there.

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2 minutes ago, turn it in said:

Declining Wembley attendances would suggest otherwise.

if Newcastle utd build a new stadium or ever expand st James park then that’s another venue/city to add to Manchester and Liverpool to rotate the challenge cup final around.

maybe even throw Edinburgh into the mix also.

And Cardiff, Everton I wonder if Dublin would work and even Amsterdam ?

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8 minutes ago, M j M said:

50 posts now, you're halfway there.

Not subtle, is it?

Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. (Terry Pratchett)

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9 minutes ago, EggFace said:

And Cardiff, Everton I wonder if Dublin would work and even Amsterdam ?

It’s a shame that Everton wasn’t a 60k+ stadium.

i think Dublin, Amsterdam and even Cardiff would be no better if not worse than Wembley currently is.

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42 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Where would you play it? Wembley is the traditional home of the CC final and is the most famous stadium in the world, it’s a good thing for our sport to play there imho, and it’s not all about armchair seat counters. 

Every year we get this same reaction to playing at Wembley. Despite the last two decades of internationals and the 2022 cup final not selling out Spurs’ stadium showing that moving to a smaller venue doesn’t mean you’re more likely to sell it out.

Yet we don’t get the same cry about empty seats for Magic Weekend, despite the fact that less % of tickets for the event are sold. 

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29 minutes ago, turn it in said:

Declining Wembley attendances would suggest otherwise.

 

2024 final had a higher attendance than 2023

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48 minutes ago, EggFace said:

It's a final that should be celebrated with a full house and i don't know the answer how to get a full house at Wembley but like the Super Bowel it should be mob=ved around and i'm not the only one thinking that.

Why not stick everyone on the TV facing stands , then as far as the general and casual viewers are concerned it’s full . 
 

Simples 

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35 minutes ago, turn it in said:

Declining Wembley attendances would suggest otherwise.

if Newcastle utd build a new stadium or ever expand st James park then that’s another venue/city to add to Manchester and Liverpool to rotate the challenge cup final around.

maybe even throw Edinburgh into the mix also.

Why would people who don’t go to London go to Edinburgh? Also cc final attendances aren’t declining much. 

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33 minutes ago, EggFace said:

And Cardiff, Everton I wonder if Dublin would work and even Amsterdam ?

Dublin and Amsterdam? I thought you wanted the crowds to grow?

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