2025 Attendance Thread

[Odsal Outlaw]

People saying move it away from Wembley … it would just signal a slow decline. Wembely will in most years be our 1st or 2nd largest crowd of the season. Why would we bin that? Focus instead should be on growing the crowd at one of the most prestigious grounds in the world. And ideally doing so with just one great game (men’s final)

[Eddie]

7 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

People saying move it away from Wembley … it would just signal a slow decline. Wembely will in most years be our 1st or 2nd largest crowd of the season. Why would we bin that? Focus instead should be on growing the crowd at one of the most prestigious grounds in the world. And ideally doing so with just one great game (men’s final)

Evidently some people would rather have jt at Rochdale because it’s cheap to get to and there’s no ULEZ. And it would look great on tv. 

[Just Browny]

6 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Evidently some people would rather have jt at Rochdale because it’s cheap to get to and there’s no ULEZ. And it would look great on tv. 

Think our Leigh friends were getting confused and thought the Wire fans were singing "Wembley again ulez ulez" yesterday.

[Worzel]

5 hours ago, EggFace said:

It's a final that should be celebrated with a full house and i don't know the answer how to get a full house at Wembley but like the Super Bowel it should be mob=ved around and i'm not the only one thinking that.

I can guarantee you are the only person in this topic thinking about moving your super bowels 

[M j M]

57 minutes ago, Skids said:

4 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

Wembley is simply too expensive for RL's occasion fans to fill. Train £120 return, £50 a decent ticket, food/drinks £50min - so a family of 4 costs about £900 via train and about £700 on a coach. Drive and its £42.50 parking, £50 fuel, £12.50 ULEZ but a long day if you dont stop over - and hotels are wow£. Its the annual event types we are missing these days

Most cars are exempt, aren't they?

Yes, it's a tiny proportion who have to pay it. 

To be honest if a vehicle is such a banger that it's captured by ULEZ I'd be more concerned about it surviving the journey from the north of England than by incurring a small fee that is paid by hardly anyone in London.

[Luke HKR]

3 hours ago, Eddie said:

Just got our final tickets, doesn’t look to be selling fantastically but it’s early days and the match itself has all the makings of a classic too. Hope so anyway as three of them coming have never been to a League match before. 

I got mine on sat. Rovers sold 10,000 on sat. But was always going to slow down straight after the initial rush. Then with people being payed monthly not yet being payed, will pick up some.

 

Agree should be a good game.

[Luke HKR]

4 hours ago, turn it in said:

Why isn’t it announced as 12.5k then if that’s what was sold?

they do the same in the NRL as well.

Because for semi finals, they tend to do it on people who go to the game. Rather than tickets sold. 

[EggFace]

4 hours ago, Dave T said:

A shame so many who had bought tickets for the Wire semi final didn't turn up. Apparently we'd sold 12.5k a couple of days earlier and was gonna beat the semi final record at the ground.

 

Why didn't they turn up as both seats behind the goal were jumping but the TV side and opposite didn't look good with loads of empty seats compared to the game day before.

[Odsal Outlaw]

If the shaded out areas on the RFL ticketing site are genuine then the cup final sales look strong, assume some of those sections are being held back for 1895 winners tho so maybe not released yet. But even in the available areas there aren’t loads of seats if you click into the section.

[Eddie]

6 minutes ago, Odsal Outlaw said:

If the shaded out areas on the RFL ticketing site are genuine then the cup final sales look strong, assume some of those sections are being held back for 1895 winners tho so maybe not released yet. But even in the available areas there aren’t loads of seats if you click into the section.

Which blocks are shaded out depends on whether you go straight to the RFL site or go via the HKR or Wire websites, as the latter two just show tickets in their areas while the RFL just shows others. eg…

Wire https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=RGLV_PL_MPV&orgid=57429&eventId=1022&salesGroupId=2522#/event/E1022/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=21&maxPrice=71&quantity=1&sort=price_desc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false

KR (look to be selling very well) https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=RGLV_PL_MPV&orgid=57429&eventId=1022&salesGroupId=2520#/event/E1022/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=21&maxPrice=31&quantity=1&sort=price_desc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false

Neutral https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=RGLV_PL_MPV&orgid=57429&eventId=1022&fbclid=fbclid&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22530304298&gbraid=0AAAAApQDKkhbCcAmY3FbgNgEqgLGDAHnq&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuMWR4t2fjQMVh4pQBh0ggh7-EAAYASAAEgKpCvD_BwE#/event/E1022/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=21&maxPrice=71&quantity=1&sort=price_desc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false

 

 

[GeordieSaint]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

Which blocks are shaded out depends on whether you go straight to the RFL site or go via the HKR or Wire websites, as the latter two just show tickets in their areas while the RFL just shows others. eg…

Wire https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=RGLV_PL_MPV&orgid=57429&eventId=1022&salesGroupId=2522#/event/E1022/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=21&maxPrice=71&quantity=1&sort=price_desc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false

KR (look to be selling very well) https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=RGLV_PL_MPV&orgid=57429&eventId=1022&salesGroupId=2520#/event/E1022/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=21&maxPrice=31&quantity=1&sort=price_desc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false

Neutral https://mpv.tickets.com/?agency=RGLV_PL_MPV&orgid=57429&eventId=1022&fbclid=fbclid&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22530304298&gbraid=0AAAAApQDKkhbCcAmY3FbgNgEqgLGDAHnq&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIuMWR4t2fjQMVh4pQBh0ggh7-EAAYASAAEgKpCvD_BwE#/event/E1022/seatmap/?selectBuyers=false&minPrice=21&maxPrice=71&quantity=1&sort=price_desc&ada=false&seatSelection=true&onlyCoupon=true&onlyVoucher=false

 

 

How we sell tickets for events doesn’t have drive me mad. Always feels and looks overcomplicated. 

[Worzel]

45 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said:

How we sell tickets for events doesn’t have drive me mad. Always feels and looks overcomplicated. 

That used to be the case, but now we've moved fully onto the ticket.com platform it's pretty efficient and offers a lot of agility. I remember in the 2023 final clubs were selling tickets from their allocations, using different tech platforms, and the RFL was selling other tickets that they hadn't allocated to clubs. Now it's all in one single platform and RL Commercial can move seats in real time across the 3 different pots (Wire / Neutral / KR) to meet demand, depending on how sales are going via which channel. None of this "we're getting another batch of tickets tomorrow" stuff. 

That's why you can see there are no "neutral" tickets for sale in the East via the RFL link, as they've moved seats into the Hull KR 'pot' because high demand is coming from there. Meanwhile in the West rather than have a load of blocks allocated to Wire, those blocks are on sale via both the club and the RFL links.  

It's one of the things that IMG have done, but don't tell anybody

[Odsal Outlaw]

@Worzel @Eddie love the ticket knowledge! Thanks!

[JonM]

23 hours ago, sweaty craiq said:

Wembley is simply too expensive for RL's occasion fans to fill. Train £120 return, £50 a decent ticket, food/drinks £50min - so a family of 4 costs about £900 via train and about £700 on a coach. 

Three adults (admittedly eldest son lives in London) going this year and I doubt we'll spend more than £250 total on tickets, transport, food & drink and that's including a pre-match restaurant meal and a stop in the motorway services on the way back. 

It does show the false economy of selling tickets for big events for £20 though - the cost of getting in is not that big a part of the total.

Edited May 13 by JonM

[Dave T]

2 hours ago, Worzel said:

That used to be the case, but now we've moved fully onto the ticket.com platform it's pretty efficient and offers a lot of agility. I remember in the 2023 final clubs were selling tickets from their allocations, using different tech platforms, and the RFL was selling other tickets that they hadn't allocated to clubs. Now it's all in one single platform and RL Commercial can move seats in real time across the 3 different pots (Wire / Neutral / KR) to meet demand, depending on how sales are going via which channel. None of this "we're getting another batch of tickets tomorrow" stuff. 

That's why you can see there are no "neutral" tickets for sale in the East via the RFL link, as they've moved seats into the Hull KR 'pot' because high demand is coming from there. Meanwhile in the West rather than have a load of blocks allocated to Wire, those blocks are on sale via both the club and the RFL links.  

It's one of the things that IMG have done, but don't tell anybody

Is this the first year we have gone fully digital? I think it may have been last year when I made a comment about how archaic it was having people queuing at turnstyles and ticket windows to buy tickets. 

[Worzel]

25 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Is this the first year we have gone fully digital? I think it may have been last year when I made a comment about how archaic it was having people queuing at turnstyles and ticket windows to buy tickets. 

I believe so, nobody is buying from the clubs, everything's via RL Commercial, albeit with those custom links.

Certainly wasn't like this in 2023, can't speak for 2024 though as I didn't go. In 2023 the clubs were given physical tickets and then sold them online through their own systems, and as you say often just sold them face-to-face in the club shop, which seems mad now you look back on it. I remember very well how on one day that summer Rovers were waiting on another box of tickets to come from the RFL, in order to be able to sell them. 

[Worzel]

1 hour ago, JonM said:

Three adults (admittedly eldest son lives in London) going this year and I doubt we'll spend more than £250 total on tickets, transport, food & drink and that's including a pre-match restaurant meal and a stop in the motorway services on the way back. 

It does show the false economy of selling tickets for big events for £20 though - the cost of getting in is the not that big a part of the total.

I think those price strategies are good to get neutrals to early-purchase in response to outbound marketing (ultimately even if we get the biggest crowd in years we'll still have 20,000 excess capacity), but should not be available a month or two before the date of final.

Just look at Hull KR fans buying behaviour. East Hull is one of the lower income areas, even within rugby league communities, and Rovers sold the £50 tickets behind the goal in the lower bowl like hot cakes in the first few hours. But even today if I wanted to get 15 or 20 of the £20 tickets grouped together in the upper tier of the Rovers end then I could. That shows us that people are not price-sensitive at that level for a Cup Final that their own team is playing in. Like you say, it's a small part of the overall cost of attendance. 

[gingerjon]

2 hours ago, JonM said:

Three adults (admittedly eldest son lives in London) going this year and I doubt we'll spend more than £250 total on tickets, transport, food & drink and that's including a pre-match restaurant meal and a stop in the motorway services on the way back. 

It does show the false economy of selling tickets for big events for £20 though - the cost of getting in is not that big a part of the total.

We’ve been saying that last bit on here for years!

[EggFace]

1 hour ago, Worzel said:

I think those price strategies are good to get neutrals to early-purchase in response to outbound marketing (ultimately even if we get the biggest crowd in years we'll still have 20,000 excess capacity), but should not be available a month or two before the date of final.

Just look at Hull KR fans buying behaviour. East Hull is one of the lower income areas, even within rugby league communities, and Rovers sold the £50 tickets behind the goal in the lower bowl like hot cakes in the first few hours. But even today if I wanted to get 15 or 20 of the £20 tickets grouped together in the upper tier of the Rovers end then I could. That shows us that people are not price-sensitive at that level for a Cup Final that their own team is playing in. Like you say, it's a small part of the overall cost of attendance. 

Thats what got me with Hull KR fans at MW was the amount of different merchandise about was great to see it was like being in with a group of 80's Casuals with all the latest gear.

[JM2010]

If the RFL, SL and clubs can work together to sell out and promote our big events then I think the knock on effect on RL would be massive. 
Look how much coverage the Vegas game got for our sport. If we could get the CC Final, GF, Magic weekend and international fixtures to generate similar interest cc and appeal then RL could grow off the back of that 

[Dave T]

To be fair on pricing, the RFL have flipped it substantially for the Cup Final.

I found an old seating plan for the 2009 Final and the cheapest tickets were behind the sticks upper tier then lower tier were the 2nd cheapest. 

It was 2nd most expensive on halfway top tier. 

By flipping the lower tier to higher pricing, they have been smarter in knowing that the hard-core will happily pay a fair bit more and rush for those seats. The upper tier isn't great and they are the cheaper seats. 

So i think they've been smarter in pricing points, what they haven't done is grow the actual demand.

[Worzel]

58 minutes ago, Dave T said:

To be fair on pricing, the RFL have flipped it substantially for the Cup Final.

I found an old seating plan for the 2009 Final and the cheapest tickets were behind the sticks upper tier then lower tier were the 2nd cheapest. 

It was 2nd most expensive on halfway top tier. 

By flipping the lower tier to higher pricing, they have been smarter in knowing that the hard-core will happily pay a fair bit more and rush for those seats. The upper tier isn't great and they are the cheaper seats. 

So i think they've been smarter in pricing points, what they haven't done is grow the actual demand.

That's a good shout. It's funny you've dug that old info out, I was thinking £50 was quite punchy for lower tier behind the posts, they've obviously made some decisions based on data. They're now under-charging at the premium end though: I bought seats in block 226 in the club tier on the half-way line... only £20 more expensive than behind the posts. But in 227 and 226 you get your own lounge with bar and food section, padded seats etc etc, you'd have thought it was worth more. Not that I'm complaining!

But in the context of all the other costs involved as others have said, I don't think the extra £20 is part of someone's decision really. 

[EggFace]

1 hour ago, JM2010 said:

If the RFL, SL and clubs can work together to sell out and promote our big events then I think the knock on effect on RL would be massive. 
Look how much coverage the Vegas game got for our sport. If we could get the CC Final, GF, Magic weekend and international fixtures to generate similar interest cc and appeal then RL could grow off the back of that 

Like the Everton test.

[JM2010]

2 minutes ago, EggFace said:

Like the Everton test.

Yeah the Ashes series, especially the Everton test, has given the game a boost. Let’s hope when the series arrives that it creates a big surge in media interest

[Eddie]

2 hours ago, Dave T said:

To be fair on pricing, the RFL have flipped it substantially for the Cup Final.

I found an old seating plan for the 2009 Final and the cheapest tickets were behind the sticks upper tier then lower tier were the 2nd cheapest. 

It was 2nd most expensive on halfway top tier. 

By flipping the lower tier to higher pricing, they have been smarter in knowing that the hard-core will happily pay a fair bit more and rush for those seats. The upper tier isn't great and they are the cheaper seats. 

So i think they've been smarter in pricing points, what they haven't done is grow the actual demand.

The front few rows above the royal box are an absolute steal at £30, the view is good and you get to see everything that’s going on with the owners, the team lifting the cup etc. I’m amazed they’re cheaper than at the front in the corner of the lower tier.