Fri 25th Apr: SL: Leeds Rhinos v Hull KR KO 20:00 (Sky)

[wakeyranger]

Anyone else sky gone down?

[Padge]

Boom gone.

[WN83]

Just now, wakeyranger said:

Anyone else sky gone down?

Yeah

[DoubleD]

That looked a very harsh red to me on first glance. Looked very inconsistent from others seen this year 

[StandOffHalf]

12 minutes ago, WN83 said:

You worry about Newman against the Aussies with stuff like that. 

Newman doesn't deserve to be in the 24 IMO.

[sentoffagain2]

   Can't argue with red  he did lead with his upper arm and i think he meant it.

[OldRedEyes]

Won’t affect the result, but laughable that’s a red compared to Sinfield’s. 

Rovers lacking energy and the team selection and in game subs has cost them the 2 points. 2 unused subs nearly an hour in. 

[Click]

Just now, Damien said:

Well that's a joke that being a red card where there was clear mitigation yet Sinfield got a yellow where there was none.

Sinfield was low level force, and he was wrapping his right arm, even if he wasn't wrapping his left which is what he hit the ball carrier with.

The only mitigation was the height in Sue's tackle, and it was a lot more forceful.

[Dave T]

Just now, Coggo said:

Wow. Just wow. Couldn’t have been much more than 3ft above ground when contact was made. 

I think the refs description was fair though as to why red. There was zero attempt to make it a legal tackle and it always had a high degree of danger.

[Harry Stottle]

Really a sending off, my my.

[dkw]

Just now, Click said:

They aren't mirror challenges whatsoever.

Of course there's similarities, there's very little difference, and dont try and claim Sinfield "wrapped" in the tackle.

[MZH]

Just now, Coggo said:

Wow. Just wow. Couldn’t have been much more than 3ft above ground when contact was made. 

Yes but he didn't suddenly drop his height. He was already low when Sue lined him up.

[Thunder Road]

Sky down AGAIN.

 

Sort it out ....Aaaagggg

[Worzel]

If that is a red card, then Sinfield’s is a red card. You can’t have one without the other. I’m sorry, but that’s just an indisputable fact.

I’d be happy if both were given the same punishment. Whether yellow or red. But how do you justify the distinction? 

[LeeF]

1 minute ago, Click said:

Yup, feed has gone.

It’s all a conspiracy as Leeds run the RFL

[Agbrigg]

Just now, DoubleD said:

That looked a very harsh red to me on first glance. Looked very inconsistent from others seen this year 

Thought the same, if that was red so was the earlier one which Sinfield did.

[DoubleD]

Time for some old school radio coverage!

[Click]

Just now, dkw said:

Of course there's similarities, there's very little difference, and dont try and claim Sinfield "wrapped" in the tackle.

He literally wrapped his right arm in the tackle.

There is a huge amount of difference, just in the level of force that was applied.

[Damien]

Just now, Click said:

Sinfield was low level force, and he was wrapping his right arm, even if he wasn't wrapping his left which is what he hit the ball carrier with.

The only mitigation was the height in Sue's tackle, and it was a lot more forceful.

Sinfield wasn't wrapping at all and was 3rd man in with his shoulder when he had plenty of time to react.

[WN83]

54 minutes ago, StandOffHalf said:

Newman doesn't deserve to be in the 24 IMO.

I'd agree but Wane tends to stick loyal to players and for all the talk of X or Y player being in, I don't think we'll see much difference to last year's squad (although even Waney can't pick Chris Hill). 

Edited April 25 by WN83

[LeeF]

1 minute ago, Dave T said:

I think the refs description was fair though as to why red. There was zero attempt to make it a legal tackle and it always had a high degree of danger.

If you listen to the explanation provided then you can’t argue with the outcome although some will

[bratman]

Rovers very lacklustre today, 3 tough matches taking their toll I think

[Click]

Just now, Damien said:

Sinfield wasn't wrapping at all and was 3rd man in with his shoulder when he had plenty of time to react.

His right arm was in a "wrapping" motion though, unlike Sue who had both arms down by his sides.

[StandOffHalf]

Lisone was lowering himself drastically. There's high contact from Sue, but there wasn't anywhere for his arm to go. A yellow would have been fair, but a send-off is pretty insane. Massive mitigation due to Lisone's positioning.

Clearly the wrong call IMO.

[Worzel]

Just now, Dave T said:

I think the refs description was fair though as to why red. There was zero attempt to make it a legal tackle and it always had a high degree of danger.

What is the difference with the Sinfield offence?

In the Siu case he was one of the two primary tacklers, and the attacker was in a lower position. It was a lesser offence. I’m fine if both were red, the gap was marginal. But it is impossible to argue that Sinfield as yellow and Siu as red is consistent. Genuinely interested to hear you try to do so…