Oldham Super League bid

[shrewsbury roughyed]

5 minutes ago, tandle said:

i reckon between toulouse /bradford /london.

but have any of these teams got a ground fit for super league ?.

 

No.

[wozzeryedhead]

1 minute ago, shrewsbury roughyed said:

No.

Correct 

[tandle]

look at the state of super lleague, look at some of the scores for and against last few days then theres salford.

there is only 6 teams that can call them selves fit for super league. 

[Stevos Barber]

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/25402649.bradford-bulls-eye-super-league-noble-wood-exit-roles/

What a surprise with Sport England not being happy about Woods involvement in the Bulls, not to mention  the unhappiness of fans from other clubs with Super League ambitions about the same thing, Bradford appear to have cleared the path

[Stevos Barber]

https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/super-league-expansion-timetable-criteria-14-teams-2026-panel-confirmed

Wow. 'Detailed  forecasts" of financial performance for the next three years! 

Edited August 20 by Stevos Barber

[Oldham Valderama]

Not sure how this applies to Oldham but reading a lot about the financial struggles of Salford one area that keeps cropping up is the fact that because they no longer own the AJ Bell Stadium (or whatever its called these days) and have to effectively rent it for match days they say that they have been unable to generate any sort of income from things like food / drink / parking etc. 

Does anyone know how the situation between the rugby & football works at Oldham? I know we have a 10 year lease which we are a couple of years into and assume we also pay rent to use BP for games but do the rugby club get to keep a slice of any part of the game day revenue streams that they bring in ie food / drink / parking / hospitality and so on? Bar 1895 and the car parking on their own must generate a pretty penny on match days, it would be a bit unfair if the rugby didn't get a slice of the profits from these when they are the ones bringing in the punters?

[LittleboroRoughyed]

From memory, I think Mike Ford in one of his early interviews said that the lease negotiated included share split on parking, food, bar etc & was additional income streams compared to Whitebank.

[Bert Street]

1 hour ago, Oldham Valderama said:

Not sure how this applies to Oldham but reading a lot about the financial struggles of Salford one area that keeps cropping up is the fact that because they no longer own the AJ Bell Stadium (or whatever its called these days) and have to effectively rent it for match days they say that they have been unable to generate any sort of income from things like food / drink / parking etc. 

Does anyone know how the situation between the rugby & football works at Oldham? I know we have a 10 year lease which we are a couple of years into and assume we also pay rent to use BP for games but do the rugby club get to keep a slice of any part of the game day revenue streams that they bring in ie food / drink / parking / hospitality and so on? Bar 1895 and the car parking on their own must generate a pretty penny on match days, it would be a bit unfair if the rugby didn't get a slice of the profits from these when they are the ones bringing in the punters?

The rent is around £2K per game, which seems reasonable, depending on what it covers.

I think we get a 60/40 split on all bar sales.

[Oldham Valderama]

8 minutes ago, Bert Street said:

The rent is around £2K per game, which seems reasonable, depending on what it covers.

I think we get a 60/40 split on all bar sales.

Blimey that sounds more than reasonable, I'd have thought it would be a good few grand more to rent BP for a match day. If true then fair play Mr Rothwell 

[Bert Street]

4 minutes ago, Oldham Valderama said:

Blimey that sounds more than reasonable, I'd have thought it would be a good few grand more to rent BP for a match day. If true then fair play Mr Rothwell 

I expect the rent is set in negotiation with both Latics and OMBC, who stumped up for the pitch on the basis it was used by both clubs.

[Blind side johnny]

2 hours ago, Oldham Valderama said:

Not sure how this applies to Oldham but reading a lot about the financial struggles of Salford one area that keeps cropping up is the fact that because they no longer own the AJ Bell Stadium (or whatever its called these days) and have to effectively rent it for match days they say that they have been unable to generate any sort of income from things like food / drink / parking etc. 

Does anyone know how the situation between the rugby & football works at Oldham? I know we have a 10 year lease which we are a couple of years into and assume we also pay rent to use BP for games but do the rugby club get to keep a slice of any part of the game day revenue streams that they bring in ie food / drink / parking / hospitality and so on? Bar 1895 and the car parking on their own must generate a pretty penny on match days, it would be a bit unfair if the rugby didn't get a slice of the profits from these when they are the ones bringing in the punters?

Salford never owned their stadium.

Other clubs renting their stadiums have similar issues, only differing according to their rental agreements. I can think of Sheffield, Leigh, Hunslet, Doncaster for starters

[Gav Wilson]

On 19/08/2025 at 15:05, tandle said:

i reckon between toulouse /bradford /london.

but have any of these teams got a ground fit for super league ?.

 

Toulouse and London do.

[sheddingswasus]

4 hours ago, LittleboroRoughyed said:

From memory, I think Mike Ford in one of his early interviews said that the lease negotiated included share split on parking, food, bar etc & was additional income streams compared to Whitebank.

Yes he said it at one of the early forums. 

[Anita Bath]

3 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Salford never owned their stadium.

Other clubs renting their stadiums have similar issues, only differing according to their rental agreements. I can think of Sheffield, Leigh, Hunslet, Doncaster for starters

Rochdale Hornets are renters.

[shrewsbury roughyed]

15 minutes ago, Anita Bath said:

Rochdale Hornets are renters.

I’m glad you didn’t say rent boys! 

[Jemmo]

16 hours ago, Blind side johnny said:

Salford never owned their stadium.

Other clubs renting their stadiums have similar issues, only differing according to their rental agreements. I can think of Sheffield, Leigh, Hunslet, Doncaster for starters

Doncaster don't rent the stadium, their owners have a lease that runs til 2111

[sheddingswasus]

47 minutes ago, Jemmo said:

 

Edited August 21 by sheddingswasus

[jroyales]

Read today that London is still in the frame for a sooperdooperleeg place - absolute nonsense again from the powers that be.

[Blind side johnny]

54 minutes ago, jroyales said:

Read today that London is still in the frame for a sooperdooperleeg place - absolute nonsense again from the powers that be.

Was this statement released by those "powers that be"?

[jroyales]

Came from somewhere. Probably Hetherington.

[Bedford Roughyed]

Being blunt, I don't think we are ready.  However, with the championship proposals, we have to go for it (I'm presuming we are).  Staying in the championship could set us back, and we have no idea when we might get the chance again.

[The Art of Hand and Foot]

Apparently 12 teams have put forward bids for SL, including us. But, and this is the bit I'm having a hard time processing,  3 of the teams are Huddersfield,  Hull FC and Cas????? The idea being should they lose IMG points and be downgraded. One worry, apparently, is the state of their grounds!! 

[shrewsbury roughyed]

10 hours ago, The Art of Hand and Foot said:

Apparently 12 teams have put forward bids for SL, including us. But, and this is the bit I'm having a hard time processing,  3 of the teams are Huddersfield,  Hull FC and Cas????? The idea being should they lose IMG points and be downgraded. One worry, apparently, is the state of their grounds!! 

Cas, I can see that. Hull? Huddersfield - nice ground but nobody in it. And they’re shifting I understand (Halifax?).12 teams? Is there a deadline? Is that including current SL teams? 

[Tim G]

Rugby league being run has it always has been,  I see the possibility of the following.   Salford leave SL for obvious reasons.   York and Bradford nailed on for SL.  And this is the curve ball, Widnes get promoted too. RL would then have five teams in close proximity,  Wigan, Leigh, Warrington, ST Helen's and Widnes. No issues for bigger crowds in those local derbies because that's as far has the game has progressed in over 100 years.  

Nothing would surprise me

[sheddingswasus]

28 minutes ago, Tim G said:

Rugby league being run has it always has been,  I see the possibility of the following.   Salford leave SL for obvious reasons.   York and Bradford nailed on for SL.  And this is the curve ball, Widnes get promoted too. RL would then have five teams in close proximity,  Wigan, Leigh, Warrington, ST Helen's and Widnes. No issues for bigger crowds in those local derbies because that's as far has the game has progressed in over 100 years.  

Nothing would surprise me

I genuinely think we have a good chance of that last slot. Interesting comments from Jen Davy when he was pushed on Kyle Amors podcast. Oldham was his third choice.