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Harry Stottle

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2 minutes ago, Dave T said:

Yeah I was thinking wider than this one season in terms of proving value on field. It was only 18m ago they won promotion on the field.

And only 10 months ago in whatever system P&R or 'Spreadsheet' they would have been and were relegated.

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Just now, Harry Stottle said:

And only 10 months ago in whatever system P&R or 'Spreadsheet' they would have been and were relegated.

Yes. Its hard to see a case for London to be in SL next year based on their current setup on or off-field. 

There really would have to be a proper investor to make them compelling. Even with Hughes in charge they were rubbish for years.

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15 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

P&R will return in 2027, after the 'promoted' clubs have been given a years grace in 2026.

Where's that been confirmed mate?

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44 minutes ago, Dave T said:

And broadly speaking, the clubs being touted are doing pretty well on the field in their comp, probably minus London.

In the famous words of Connor McLeod (Highlander) 'There can only be one'. I am relating to winning the GF.

But at the end of this year depending on the panels findings and also how *Salford and Huddersfield go on the spreadsheet,  there could be  2, 3, or 4 promoted, and don't expect any or all will add anything whatsoever on the field to the competition.

*In the case of Salford and Huddersfield, I have heard it said that they cannot improve on their IMG scores of last season and could maybe drop in their total score, whilst it is possible that two teams presently in the Championship could improve their score enough to overtake them into the 12, and it is said if they do drop out of the 12 and do not apply to be considered by the panel to play in SL next season they could find themselves in the Championship from '26. 

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59 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

P&R will return in 2027, after the 'promoted' clubs have been given a years grace in 2026.

Nah. Not a chance.

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27 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

and don't expect any or all will add anything whatsoever on the field to the competition.

But a club from a little known town just 10 miles from half the league did, so why can't others?

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25 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

Where's that been confirmed mate?

It hasn't been confirmed as such Tommy, but by keeping one's ear close to the ground and reading between the lines, I am sure it will happen. 

And why shouldn't it?

There are plenty including yourself - apologies if I am wrong - who have stated previously that they are not a fan and they really don't want P&R because the team coming up would not be a good addition in ability to the competition, but that is going to happen next season with more than one club getting promoted.

So we have multiple clubs applying for a place in SL in '26 some are going to be dissapointed in that they won't make it, so to keep the Championship comp vibrant in '26 and '27 the Carrot of Promotion on the field of play will be available again at the end of '27 for those clubs who have already stated that they and their ambitious owners wish to get to SL, and in my opinion they will not be replacing a club with far more ability or will be financially better off. It will be one of those promoted in '26

 

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1 hour ago, Harry Stottle said:

P&R will return in 2027, after the 'promoted' clubs have been given a years grace in 2026.

In 2027 we'll start the year with 14 teams. Rumours will swirl about the NRL taking over either 1 club, part or all of the competition and will want to increase the number of teams to 16. It will then emerge that the RFL are reintroducing the Super 8s with the bottom 2 joining the top 6 in the Championship to bring the number of teams to 12 for 2028. The Championship and League 1 will split again with 15 teams in the Championship and 9 teams in League 1, including 2 new teams from outside the heartlands which will fold in 3 and 5 years respectively. SL will return to a top 4 play offs for 1 season before switching to 5 team play off the season after.

Repeat every 10 years or so.

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Harry Stottle

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24 minutes ago, Simon Hall said:

But a club from a little known town just 10 miles from half the league did, so why can't others?

Obviously you think that the newbies will be competitive, my opinion differs.

And when that team from the little know town (whatever has that got to do with anyting) you mention came up, they had the playing roster that was better than a number of clubs already in SL, and at this stage of the season whilst still in the Championship they were miles and miles ahead of their competition and victory in the GF was never ever in question, can you say that  about a 'big city' club with a capacity of just 8,500?

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6 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

In 2027 we'll start the year with 14 teams. Rumours will swirl about the NRL taking over either 1 club, part or all of the competition and will want to increase the number of teams to 16. It will then emerge that the RFL are reintroducing the Super 8s with the bottom 2 joining the top 6 in the Championship to bring the number of teams to 12 for 2028. The Championship and League 1 will split again with 15 teams in the Championship and 9 teams in League 1, including 2 new teams from outside the heartlands which will fold in 3 and 5 years respectively. SL will return to a top 4 play offs for 1 season before switching to 5 team play off the season after.

Repeat every 10 years or so.

Very good Sam, but it falls down at the NRL stage of proceedings, it may swirl about but that will be the height it will reach.

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Watch this space!

There's no indication either way but I'd be very surprised if anything like auto P&R was back by 2027.

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6 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Obviously you think that the newbies will be competitive, my opinion differs.

And when that team from the little know town (*whatever has that got to do with anyting) you mention came up, they had the playing roster that was better than a number of clubs already in SL, and at this stage of the season whilst still in the Championship they were miles and miles ahead of their competition and victory in the GF was never ever in question, can you say that  about a 'big city' club with a capacity of just 8,500?

Why are you acting like your stadium holds that much more?

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Just now, Harry Stottle said:

Your source of information?

He's keeping his ear to the ground, and reading between the lines.

Wait, that was your source.

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22 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

It hasn't been confirmed as such Tommy, but by keeping one's ear close to the ground and reading between the lines, I am sure it will happen. 

And why shouldn't it?

There are plenty including yourself - apologies if I am wrong - who have stated previously that they are not a fan and they really don't want P&R because the team coming up would not be a good addition in ability to the competition, but that is going to happen next season with more than one club getting promoted.

So we have multiple clubs applying for a place in SL in '26 some are going to be dissapointed in that they won't make it, so to keep the Championship comp vibrant in '26 and '27 the Carrot of Promotion on the field of play will be available again at the end of '27 for those clubs who have already stated that they and their ambitious owners wish to get to SL, and in my opinion they will not be replacing a club with far more ability or will be financially better off. It will be one of those promoted in '26

 

I think that is wishful thinking on your behalf Harry to make up for the calamity you are seeing from those you thought would do what you want.

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5 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Your source of information?

My source is there there's been no indication either way.

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Harry Stottle

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2 minutes ago, Click said:

He's keeping his ear to the ground, and reading between the lines.

Wait, that was your source.

I will be more privy to information, living were I live than in say London or Hastings!

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Harry Stottle

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3 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

I think that is wishful thinking on your behalf Harry to make up for the calamity you are seeing from those you thought would do what you want.

Don't understand that Tommy.

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Just now, Harry Stottle said:

Don't understand that Tommy.

You want P/R and want rid of IMG (the latter reason was your basis of support for these guys). These lot have decided to get rid of P/R, have promotion to SL decided on pure application, and not said at all what the plan is after that (all whilst not being clear on IMG or Gradings other than for 12 teams gradings will be in place).

You have to believe that they will reintroduce P/R, you've even conceded it will be 2027 not 2026.

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Harry Stottle

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5 minutes ago, Tommygilf said:

You want P/R and want rid of IMG (the latter reason was your basis of support for these guys). These lot have decided to get rid of P/R, have promotion to SL decided on pure application, and not said at all what the plan is after that (all whilst not being clear on IMG or Gradings other than for 12 teams gradings will be in place).

You have to believe that they will reintroduce P/R, you've even conceded it will be 2027 not 2026.

One part of your 1st paragraph is correct and it is not my basis of support for these guys

Of course P&R will be for '27, there will be 12 months grace for the promoted clubs.

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14 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Obviously you think that the newbies will be competitive, my opinion differs.

And when that team from the little know town (whatever has that got to do with anyting) you mention came up, they had the playing roster that was better than a number of clubs already in SL, and at this stage of the season whilst still in the Championship they were miles and miles ahead of their competition and victory in the GF was never ever in question, can you say that  about a 'big city' club with a capacity of just 8,500?

So the only club that can ever go up has to have a top six SL capable team in the Championship the year before, despite there not being guaranteed promotion even if you win every game 144-0. Why would any club do that? Do you think your deity would have wasted all those caravan decking profits if promotion wasn't guaranteed on winning the GF? 

This season's Championship has been one of the most competitive ever, and despite the team at the top winning 14 league games in a row and winning the 1895 Cup, all without any loans or DR players, that isn't dominant enough for you?

Other clubs deserve a chance and if they can prove it, without a one man benefactor, then that's good for the game regardless of them "only" have a ground that can hold 8,500.

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Click said:

Why are you acting like your stadium holds that much more?

40% more, and the little town will average more than the big city best not mention the biggest city in the country in this conversation.

Chrispmartha

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38 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

It hasn't been confirmed as such Tommy, but by keeping one's ear close to the ground and reading between the lines, I am sure it will happen. 

And why shouldn't it?

 

 

It shouldn't because they will have just put 2/3 new teams into SL from the Championship with not a lot of time to prepare and next to no funding, bringing back P&R in that year is just madness.

 

If you are going to go to 14 teams with 3 from the Championship you need to give them time in SL to get up to speed. and a year isn't enough.

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal running the game.

 

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