14 Team Super League (Resurrected Thread)

[Bull Mania]

15 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Obviously you think that the newbies will be competitive, my opinion differs.

 

Depends what you mean by competitive. I don't think any will be as bad as Hull last year or Salford this. Cas are competitive in the league. They're just not as good as other teams, as happens in sport.  Bradford already beat Cas this year. Granted it's a one off game in January, but the counter to that is Bradford worked throughout the week.

But the media pens are already inked, as soon as a Bradford, Toulouse, York, London, or Oldham get hammered it's "see, see, i told you 14 teams is too many"

The 3 teams promoted will have a transition next year. They'll be some highs and lows, as happens in sport. The following year, i think the potential of all 3 will see them overtake a number of clubs.

[Harry Stottle]

13 minutes ago, Simon Hall said:

So the only club that can ever go up has to have a top six SL capable team in the Championship the year before, despite there not being guaranteed promotion even if you win every game 144-0. Why would any club do that? Do you think your deity would have wasted all those caravan decking profits if promotion wasn't guaranteed on winning the GF? 

This season's Championship has been one of the most competitive ever, and despite the team at the top winning 14 league games in a row and winning the 1895 Cup, all without any loans or DR players, that isn't dominant enough for you?

Other clubs deserve a chance and if they can prove it, without a one man benefactor, then that's good for the game regardless of them "only" have a ground that can hold 8,500.

 

 

 

Why have you said that a promoted Championship club as to be a top 6 SL capable club, I never said that.

Your Diety, grow up.

Yes the Championship is very competitive this term, does that mean it is better quality wise or there are more teams grouped closer?

If you think I am going to disagree with you re your last paragraph, you have not been reading what I have been saying for a long time, I probably have Championed P&R on the field of play more than any other individual on this platform, it is not just good for the game it is essential for all types of reasons,  I would never decry any club of promotion if they earn it on the field. 

I only mentioned a big city 8500 capacity as back handed clout to your 'little known town' swipe.

Edited August 19 by Harry Stottle

[wilsontown]

21 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

My source indicates differently.

And no I won't disclose it.

Which is all very well, but like a lot of the current discussions around RL governance it's just so much internet wibble and no-one is any the wiser.

[Harry Stottle]

14 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

It shouldn't because they will have just put 2/3 new teams into SL from the Championship with not a lot of time to prepare and next to no funding, bringing back P&R in that year is just madness.

 

If you are going to go to 14 teams with 3 from the Championship you need to give them time in SL to get up to speed. and a year isn't enough.

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal running the game.

 

Been done before Chris, promote a club to fill in SL give them reduced funding then relegate them not in two years but the same season. At least having 3 teams of near equal ability gives them a fighting chance.

[JohnM]

57 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

It hasn't been confirmed as such Tommy, but by keeping one's ear close to the ground and reading between the lines, I am sure it will happen. 

And why shouldn't it?

There are plenty including yourself - apologies if I am wrong - who have stated previously that they are not a fan and they really don't want P&R because the team coming up would not be a good addition in ability to the competition, but that is going to happen next season with more than one club getting promoted.

So we have multiple clubs applying for a place in SL in '26 some are going to be dissapointed in that they won't make it, so to keep the Championship comp vibrant in '26 and '27 the Carrot of Promotion on the field of play will be available again at the end of '27 for those clubs who have already stated that they and their ambitious owners wish to get to SL, and in my opinion they will not be replacing a club with far more ability or will be financially better off. It will be one of those promoted in '26

 

the Carrot of Promotion

[JohnM]

24 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

It shouldn't because they will have just put 2/3 new teams into SL from the Championship with not a lot of time to prepare and next to no funding, bringing back P&R in that year is just madness.

 

If you are going to go to 14 teams with 3 from the Championship you need to give them time in SL to get up to speed. and a year isn't enough.

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal running the game.

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal running the game.

I hope you dont mind my corrected version: 

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal ruining the game.

Edited August 19 by JohnM

[Harry Stottle]

11 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:

The 3 teams promoted will have a transition next year. They'll be some highs and lows, as happens in sport. The following year, i think the potential of all 3 will see them overtake a number of clubs.

That is what I have said bully, there will be a transition year or put another way one with no P&R, excellent if they all escape relegation at the end of '27 SL will be competitive.

[Harry Stottle]

5 minutes ago, JohnM said:

the Carrot of Promotion

He's a clever boy!

[Chrispmartha]

11 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

Been done before Chris, promote a club to fill in SL give them reduced funding then relegate them not in two years but the same season. At least having 3 teams of near equal ability gives them a fighting chance.

I know it’s been done before, but that was a bit different.

Its madness to repeat the failures of the past

[Harry Stottle]

1 minute ago, JohnM said:

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal running the game.

I hope yuo dont mind my corrected version: 

As I've repeatedly said I wouldn't put anything past the current cabal ruining the game.

I would never have expected you to be a critique of the new people who are going to take the sport onwards and upwards

[Harry Stottle]

2 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

I know it’s been done before, but that was a bit different.

Its madness to repeat the failures of the past

Again there will most probably be 3 clubs vying for position, that was a lot different from a stand alone team, they have a fighting chance. 

[Harry Stottle]

24 minutes ago, wilsontown said:

Which is all very well, but like a lot of the current discussions around RL governance it's just so much internet wibble and no-one is any the wiser.

Couldn't agree more, like the word 'wibble' and this site has its fair share.

[gingerjon]

49 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

My source indicates differently.

And no I won't disclose it.

Say hi to Derek for us.

[Click]

53 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I will be more privy to information, living were I live than in say London or Hastings!

Really? Your mates in your local have all the inside info?

[Click]

44 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

40% more, and the little town will average more than the big city best not mention the biggest city in the country in this conversation.

40% sounds big, but in reality you are both in similar sized stadiums.

No one did mention the biggest city in this conversation, why would they when talking Leigh and York?

[Chrispmartha]

14 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I would never have expected you to be a critique of the new people who are going to take the sport onwards and upwards

Hang on, aren't you against what they're doing?

[LeeF]

17 minutes ago, Harry Stottle said:

I would never have expected you to be a critique of the new people who are going to take the sport onwards and upwards

This needs bookmarking after the “new people” have so far

 

• Upset the main source of funding for SL ie Sky
• Upset one of the main funding sources for the game ie Sports England
• Have failed to complete the promised review within the stated timescale 
• Have restructured SL on a wing and a prayer.
• Have not solved the Salford situation despite stating that as one of the main reasons for the changing of the guard
• Have got down the road of appointing jobs for the boys
• Have claimed that a streaming service will bring in multi millions per year based on some financial calculations that Paul King would be embarrassed about.
• Have one of the leading lights of the new regime be charged by the RFL due to his behaviour on the field after a match

I’m sure there are more out there but they have only taken the game backwards in the last 6 months

[Gooleboy]

2 hours ago, Dave T said:

Yeah I was thinking wider than this one season in terms of proving value on field. It was only 18m ago they won promotion on the field.

Where will the players and money to buy them come from? They would need a completely new squad. 

[Dave T]

Just now, Gooleboy said:

Where will the players and money to buy them come from? They would need a completely new squad. 

Read my posts, quite clear on my thoughts on London. 

[Harry Stottle]

43 minutes ago, Click said:

Really? Your mates in your local have all the inside info?

If it was them, that will probably be and I am just guessing a lot more than you can casually meet to discuss RL matters.

I have been in and around the game for a long time Click in all types of positions of purpose and process, surprising how many people you meet on that journey and some of influence in the sport that you keep in touch with.

[Harry Stottle]

53 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Say hi to Derek for us.

Hi Derek.

[Click]

1 minute ago, Harry Stottle said:

If it was them, that will probably be and I am just guessing a lot more than you can casually meet to discuss RL matters.

I have been in and around the game for a long time Click in all types of positions of purpose and process, surprising how many people you meet on that journey and some of influence in the sport that you keep in touch with.

No, I don't casually meet people in the pub to discuss RL in London, it also is no different to talking to people on this forum, although they are probably less informed than quite a few that use this site. 

[Harry Stottle]

46 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said:

Hang on, aren't you against what they're doing?

Yes I am on this subject of putting teams into SL with 4 months preparation time, and most probably 3 at the same time when there is most probably insufficient players available for one team never mind three, but it is happening so we need to make the best of it we can.

[Click]

Just now, Harry Stottle said:

Yes I am on this subject of putting teams into SL with 4 months preparation time, and most probably 3 at the same time when there is most probably insufficient players available for one team never mind three, but it is happening so we need to make the best of it we can.

Why wasn't that your view of our IMG period?

[RigbyLuger]

Abi Ekoku on the "independent panel" shows how much they care about optics.