Opinions you get attacked for having.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

I've noticed there are certain opinions in certain different topics that you will inevitably get attacked for having.

One I have a lot of experience with as a snooker fan is when you say anything bad about Ronnie O'Sullivan. As many people hate the man as hold him up as some sort of idol, but should you say anything bad about him you basically get death threats from his lovers.

Another I've noticed is if you say you dislike Only Fools and Horses. Again, you will get called boring, you will be informed you don't have a sense of humour, you will essentially be bullied and belittled.

Everyone is allowed their own opinions of things. The world would be very boring if everyone liked the same things.

I wondered if my fellow forum members had experience of any more of these unallowed opinions?

Edited September 18 by The Hallucinating Goose

[Yorks Tim]

Star Trek is a kids' film. Don't understand why adults are so enthralled by the whole series. Which has led us to the whole superhero 'multiverse' rubbish. Grow up you fools and watch something more age-appropriate.

And don't get me started on Harry bleeding' Potter... 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

29 minutes ago, Yorks Tim said:

Star Trek is a kids' film. Don't understand why adults are so enthralled by the whole series. Which has led us to the whole superhero 'multiverse' rubbish. Grow up you fools and watch something more age-appropriate.

And don't get me started on Harry bleeding' Potter... 

Have you been attacked for not liking either Marvel or Harry Potter? 

I don't like either either, but I wouldn't say I've necessarily been attacked for it, although to be fair I've never massively voiced those opinions because I reckon I would be attacked!

I agree, they are certainly not adult franchises.

[Padge]

When he was playing criticising Kevin Si field could cause a few unpleasant things, and saying he shouldn't be Sir Kevin wasn't worth the hassle.

[CanaBull]

3 hours ago, Yorks Tim said:

Star Trek is a kids' film. Don't understand why adults are so enthralled by the whole series. Which has led us to the whole superhero 'multiverse' rubbish. Grow up you fools and watch something more age-appropriate.

And don't get me started on Harry bleeding' Potter... 

Not sure if you’re the attackee or attacker with that one!

Never liked Game of Thrones and got some push back on that.  Quite a few on this side of the pond surprised I don’t like football (soccer). 

[Futtocks]

I did get some hassle on social media for expressing my opinion of the seemingly ubiquitous Van Tulleken brothers, their matey "bantz" and the whole "isn't working class food just dreadful?" thing.

[John Drake]

6 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I've noticed there are certain opinions in certain different topics that you will inevitably get attacked for having.

One I have a lot of experience with as a snooker fan is when you say anything bad about Ronnie O'Sullivan. As many people hate the man as hold him up as some sort of idol, but should you say anything bad about him you basically get death threats from his lovers.

Another I've noticed is if you say you dislike Only Fools and Horses. Again, you will get called boring, you will be informed you don't have a sense of humour, you will essentially be bullied and belittled.

Everyone is allowed their own opinions of things. The world would be very boring if everyone liked the same things.

I wondered if my fellow forum members had experience of any more of these unallowed opinions?

I think it matters greatly how (and where) you express an opinion, as to the kind of reaction you'll receive to it.

If you were to say 'Only Fools and Horses wasn't my cup of tea, I didn't find it funny' that's very different to saying 'Only Fools and Horses isn't funny' especially to someone who loves the show.

If you're just dissing something that lots of other people enjoy, the reaction isn't likely to be very friendly.

Imagine if someone posted on here that they thought rugby league was a load of old tripe. I'd ban them for trolling.

 

[Maximus Decimus]

22 minutes ago, John Drake said:

I think it matters greatly how (and where) you express an opinion, as to the kind of reaction you'll receive to it.

If you were to say 'Only Fools and Horses wasn't my cup of tea, I didn't find it funny' that's very different to saying 'Only Fools and Horses isn't funny' especially to someone who loves the show.

If you're just dissing something that lots of other people enjoy, the reaction isn't likely to be very friendly.

Imagine if someone posted on here that they thought rugby league was a load of old tripe. I'd ban them for trolling.

 

This is a big part of it, which is why online communication it so often leads to conflict. When people are there in the flesh, you can usually tell how somebody means to say something, when it is online I think too often people presume it is in bad faith.

I obviously have some unpopular opinions that have provoked a strong reaction, maybe something like saying action films make me completely switch off. I also have opinions where I'm being facetious but with an element of truth behind it like when I say if I was dictator I'd ban all dogs. Even when I make it clear I'm joking, people are still really offended at the proposition. I don't say that one anymore...

One time I really provoked a violent reaction was in the early days of Twitter. There was something about one of the Bulger killers being out and a lot of people were saying how they were evil and should have been strung up at the time. I pretty unwisely tried to argue that as a society we maybe shouldn't be killing children, and then that as children they weren't created in a vacuum. Twitter even then wasn't the place for nuance. They were evil incarnate and should have been tortured to death and that was that. 

I was called sick, actually sent threats and worst of all blocked by Tony Bellew!

[The Hallucinating Goose]

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

I think it matters greatly how (and where) you express an opinion, as to the kind of reaction you'll receive to it.

If you were to say 'Only Fools and Horses wasn't my cup of tea, I didn't find it funny' that's very different to saying 'Only Fools and Horses isn't funny' especially to someone who loves the show.

If you're just dissing something that lots of other people enjoy, the reaction isn't likely to be very friendly.

Imagine if someone posted on here that they thought rugby league was a load of old tripe. I'd ban them for trolling.

 

The reason I started thinking about this was because I was reading the comments on a thread on a facebook group dedicated to British comedy. 

The thread was, "what sitcom is really popular but you've never liked it" (to paraphrase), and while a lot of people were saying Only Fools and Horses almost everyone of them was quite harshly attacked for their opinion. 

However, this was the only sitcom where this was happening. A lot of people were saying other classic comedies such as Fawlty Towers and Dads Army to name just a couple. As many people were saying those as well but they were not being told off or attacked at all, yet Only Fools and Horses, people got really insulting, attacking replies. 

Why threaten to kill someone (im exaggerating obviously) over that comedy but not another?

Edited September 18 by The Hallucinating Goose

[CanaBull]

1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

The reason I started thinking about this was because I was reading the comments on a thread on a facebook group dedicated to British comedy. 

The thread was, "what sitcom is really popular but you've never liked it" (to paraphrase), and while a lot of people were saying Only Fools and Horses almost everyone of them was quite harshly attacked for their opinion. 

However, this was the only sitcom where this was happening. A lot of people were saying other classic comedies such as Fawlty Towers and Dads Army to name just a couple. As many people were saying those as well but they were not being told off or attacked at all, yet Only Fools and Horses, people got really insulting, attacking replies. 

Why threaten to kill someone (im exaggerating obviously) over that comedy but not another?

Because they get Triggered?

[The Phantom Horseman]

8 minutes ago, CanaBull said:

Because they get Triggered?

Magnificent!

[17 stone giant]

I did feel a bit picked on when I defended Doctor Who after Goose had said it was a load of old tripe watched by weirdos and failed forum administrators.

[John Drake]

Several posts removed. No politics in here please. Ta.

[John Drake]

5 minutes ago, 17 stone giant said:

I did feel a bit picked on when I defended Doctor Who after Goose had said it was a load of old tripe watched by weirdos and failed forum administrators.

Try going on X or Facebook and saying Jodie Whittaker and/or Ncuti Gatwa were very good in Doctor Who. Then you will know true pain. 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

5 hours ago, 17 stone giant said:

I did feel a bit picked on when I defended Doctor Who after Goose had said it was a load of old tripe watched by weirdos and failed forum administrators.

Eh??

[The Hallucinating Goose]

11 hours ago, CanaBull said:

Because they get Triggered?

But why do they get triggered? Why do Only Fools and Horses fans get triggered but not fans of other sitcoms?

[Copa]

I think life is getting simpler and young people grow up more slowly and are becoming more conservative.

[Chrispmartha]

I think Ricky Gervais is s very fortunate hacky comrfy writer and a terrible stand up comedian who along with Stephen Merchant wrote one of the best comedy shows of the modern era.

I think the Harry Potter books are badly written utter rubbish and are kids books and not sure why grown adults are obsessed with it.

I managed 30 minutes of one of the films and thought it was bilge.

I’ve seen these opinions been put out in places like twitter and the abuse they atrract usually along with pictures of those two people showing off there wealth (sometimes from gervais and rowling themselves) is astonishing.

But ATEOD my opinion is just that, it is ultimately each to their own and im sure some of the things i like people feel the same way (as in think im wrong)

[Chrispmartha]

3 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

But why do they get triggered? Why do Only Fools and Horses fans get triggered but not fans of other sitcoms?

As above Gervais fans are also very precious 

[The Hallucinating Goose]

2 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

I think Ricky Gervais is s very fortunate hacky comrfy writer and a terrible stand up comedian who along with Stephen Merchant wrote one of the best comedy shows of the modern era.

I think the Harry Potter books are badly written utter rubbish and are kids books and not sure why grown adults are obsessed with it.

I managed 30 minutes of one of the films and thought it was bilge.

I’ve seen these opinions been put out in places like twitter and the abuse they atrract usually along with pictures of those two people showing off there wealth (sometimes from gervais and rowling themselves) is astonishing.

But ATEOD my opinion is just that, it is ultimately each to their own and im sure some of the things i like people feel the same way (as in think im wrong)

The worst acting of all time.  No excuse cos they're kids, theres plenty of fantastic child actors but these three just sound like they're reading off a whiteboard. Utterly rubbish acting.

[Michael Bates]

20 hours ago, John Drake said:

I think it matters greatly how (and where) you express an opinion, as to the kind of reaction you'll receive to it.

If you were to say 'Only Fools and Horses wasn't my cup of tea, I didn't find it funny' that's very different to saying 'Only Fools and Horses isn't funny' especially to someone who loves the show.

If you're just dissing something that lots of other people enjoy, the reaction isn't likely to be very friendly.

Imagine if someone posted on here that they thought rugby league was a load of old tripe. I'd ban them for trolling.

 

This is it in a nutshell.

"Coldplay are ######" - No, they're not, they're a very successful band that have had many hit songs / albums / tours etc.

"I don't like Coldplay" - Fair enough.

[gingerjon]

3 hours ago, Chrispmartha said:

I think Ricky Gervais is s very fortunate hacky comrfy writer and a terrible stand up comedian who along with Stephen Merchant wrote one of the best comedy shows of the modern era.

I think the Harry Potter books are badly written utter rubbish and are kids books and not sure why grown adults are obsessed with it.

I managed 30 minutes of one of the films and thought it was bilge.

I’ve seen these opinions been put out in places like twitter and the abuse they atrract usually along with pictures of those two people showing off there wealth (sometimes from gervais and rowling themselves) is astonishing.

But ATEOD my opinion is just that, it is ultimately each to their own and im sure some of the things i like people feel the same way (as in think im wrong)

My opinion is that Gervais was incredibly lucky that Stephen Merchant was happy for him to hog the limelight around the time of The Office and Extras.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

6 minutes ago, Michael Bates said:

This is it in a nutshell.

"Coldplay are ######" - No, they're not, they're a very successful band that have had many hit songs / albums / tours etc.

"I don't like Coldplay" - Fair enough.

Thing is, this is what people were saying in the thing i was reading. As an answer to, "which popular sitcom dont you like?", people where simply putting, "Only Fools and Horses", nothing else, and they were getting replies such as, "get a sense of humour", "well you must not have a sense of humour then", and, "I bet your a laugh at parties", to name just a few of the rather insulting replies. The original commenters were not attacking the show, were not insulting the show, simply saying they do not like it.

[Chrispmartha]

31 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

My opinion is that Gervais was incredibly lucky that Stephen Merchant was happy for him to hog the limelight around the time of The Office and Extras.

Everything Gervais has done without Merchant has been very poor IMO - Derek was so bad it was actually funny for the wrong reasons and Afterlife was absolutely dire and poorly written signposted rubbish. obviously all in my opinion and Stewart Lees.

 

[CanaBull]

7 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

But why do they get triggered? Why do Only Fools and Horses fans get triggered but not fans of other sitcoms?

Not sure what the psychologists would say but would assume it’s a more defensive stand for something that’s more attached to their sense of self or identity.  Maybe to them it’s seen more of an institution? Television royalty?  Maybe with those folks they’re sensitive to opinions that differ from their own anyway and a beef with Only Fools and Horses is just a step too far.