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Luke HKR

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Both the NRL and SL are in talks for the game to return next year. Especially since, after Canterbury got beat over the weekend, no NRL clubs will be in Vegas, (though of course Hull KR and Leeds, who both could win SL are). 

The weekend being mentioned is the week before Vegas.

 

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Damien
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WN83
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We shouldn't be too harsh on the Aussie clubs when it comes to pencilling in the WCC because we must remember they have a duty of care to their players and must ensure they get enough rest. That then

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phiggins

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7 minutes ago, Sports Prophet said:

Penrith and Melbourne will only want to play it in Aus.

Brisbane and Cronulla would travel I reckon.

Didn't Penrith only object to travel because they were already travelling to Vegas?

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Dunbar

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It is quite unbelievable that we can send teams to Vegas from the NRL and Super League every year and yet not make one of the games the World Club Challenge. 

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Dunbar

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28 minutes ago, Damien said:

Deja vu. Can we just copy and paste the posts from the 2025 version of this thread and use them for this one?

The circumstances are different this year - none of the 2026 NRL Vegas bound teams from the NRL are going to be the NRL champions.

So, if the circumstances are different then the conversation will be different. 

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Damien

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3 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

The circumstances are different this year - none of the 2026 NRL Vegas bound teams from the NRL are going to be the NRL champions.

So, if the circumstances are different then the conversation will be different. 

It's the same will it happen/won't it that we have every year at the whim of whether the Australian team can be bothered. I don't see it as being particularly different this year, or that the discussion will be particularly different to last year, but if you do that's your prerogative. Vegas wasn't a barrier last year, it was just an excuse which was apparent when Wigan called Penrith's bluff. It always boils down to a lack of will and it's pathetic that we can't get this locked in properly so that it can grow.

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Dunbar

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10 minutes ago, Damien said:

It's the same will it happen/won't it that we have every year at the whim of whether the Australian team can be bothered. I don't see it as being particularly different this year, or that the discussion will be particularly different to last year, but if you do that's your prerogative. Vegas wasn't a barrier last year, it was just an excuse which was apparent when Wigan called Penrith's bluff. It always boils down to a lack of will and it's pathetic that we can't get this locked in properly so that it can grow.

I was just pointing out the circumstances are different that's all.

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Damien

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1 hour ago, phiggins said:

Didn't Penrith only object to travel because they were already travelling to Vegas?

Wigan offered to travel to Australia to play it last year and offered to play the week before Vegas or during Magic round. Penrith just weren't interested no matter what, after losing 2 in a row they seemed scared of losing a third.

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StandOffHalf

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What excuse will the Aussies come up with this year, LOL...

For me, there'll be an asterisk lingering against this Penrith team as long as they don't win a WCC.

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WN83

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We shouldn't be too harsh on the Aussie clubs when it comes to pencilling in the WCC because we must remember they have a duty of care to their players and must ensure they get enough rest. That then allows some of them to play 2 games, including an Origin fixture, in the space of 48 hours, 3 times a year. 

All about the care! 

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sam4731

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I hope in another decade this match/es will be an established organised part of the calendar organised by and funded by an independent body.

The reality will be that we're having a discussion on the merits of moving from a 12 team to 14 team SL, whether P&R should be scrapped and the ever dwindling international calendar.

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Coggo

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‘Hello. Peter V’Landys here. We are happy to play a World Club Challenge, as long as you Poms stop beating us and showing up the NRL.’

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gingerjon

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11 hours ago, WN83 said:

We shouldn't be too harsh on the Aussie clubs when it comes to pencilling in the WCC because we must remember they have a duty of care to their players and must ensure they get enough rest. That then allows some of them to play 2 games, including an Origin fixture, in the space of 48 hours, 3 times a year. 

All about the care! 

They're not subtle. It's the money.

Origin makes some. The WCC only happens when the British side/organisation puts up enough to make it worthwhile.

Find the cash and they will play.

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19 hours ago, Luke HKR said:

(though of course Hull KR and Leeds, who both could win SL are).

I don't think we need to worry about that.

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Luke HKR

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13 hours ago, MZH said:

I don't think we need to worry about that.

Maybe, maybe not. There's hope.

 

To be honest, what I don't get with the world club challenge. There's an obvious place to have it, Vegas. Have a Sl, nrl then last the best of the world clash (marketed as that), but we seem to be doing anything but wanting to hold it there.

RP London

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Problem is IMHO while ever it's the next season and the teams have changed etc it's not really the best in the world. It's the eternal struggle then to make it meaningful enough. Hence you can't get the teams to agree.. 

Make it a compulsory match in Vegas so all clubs know that they may well have to go and market it properly.. it can then be THE thing other cities might start to bid for once it's been given time to build.. a whole weekend of matches that can see the women play, wheelchair etc all in the same place, a proper weekend of RL culminating with the best in the world battling it out. 

If we can't do internationals properly and we really do believe the club game can sell the sport we have to do this... But as with almost everything RL we don't want to really do anything properly.... If it's not the clubs it has to be a big push for internationals but no that's not going to happen, so it has to be the clubs but can't be bothered to make that happen so we just meander along... 

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hunsletgreenandgold

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Vegas does make most sense, but it is still complex IMO. Penrith have won the last 4 and could make it 5 NRL titles in row. Wigan could make it 3 in a row - could you imagine if the fans of those clubs were making it over to Vegas for a third year in a row? I'm sure some would and if it was 1-1 for the previous two games then it would be highly anticipated, but it's some burden to ask that of them and it's not wholly unrealistic the next dominant team(s) could go on similar runs, as Saints and Roosters have in the past. This isn't a reason not to play it, but at the very least you'd want the location to be changing to keep getting people interested, fans and neutrals alike. 

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RP London

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19 minutes ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

Vegas does make most sense, but it is still complex IMO. Penrith have won the last 4 and could make it 5 NRL titles in row. Wigan could make it 3 in a row - could you imagine if the fans of those clubs were making it over to Vegas for a third year in a row? I'm sure some would and if it was 1-1 for the previous two games then it would be highly anticipated, but it's some burden to ask that of them and it's not wholly unrealistic the next dominant team(s) could go on similar runs, as Saints and Roosters have in the past. This isn't a reason not to play it, but at the very least you'd want the location to be changing to keep getting people interested, fans and neutrals alike. 

True, the irony is that the last bit only happens if the first bit happens and is really successful... at some point we need to make a move though in terms of doing it properly rather than the half baked (which is being generous) way we do it now

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The Duke

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Are the tv rights for the WCC sold separately ?

if DAZN were interested that would potentially fund the travel for 2 clubs to go to Saudi 

I think I’m probably dreaming a bit there 

Jonty58

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I don't think the Aussies rate the WCC, whether they win or lose.

The Clubs cant be bothered to play the game as they are heading into a new NRL season.

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lucky 7

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8 hours ago, RigbyLuger said:

 

Didn't the England womens Rugby League team lose by 100 points when they played Australia in Las Vegas earlier this year, and a similar score line would await the Wigan RL team?

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