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9 minutes ago, lucky 7 said:

Didn't the England womens Rugby League team lose by 100 points when they played Australia in Las Vegas earlier this year, and a similar score line would await the Wigan RL team?

Yeah, best not do anything, then

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2 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Yeah, best not do anything, then

100 point loses don't do the game any favours, except in union where the losers are considered brave.

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23 minutes ago, lucky 7 said:

100 point loses don't do the game any favours, except in union where the losers are considered brave.

Wigan would beat England. I think they'd lose to Brisbane and probably by a fair whack but I can't see any reason to believe it would be 100 points or close to that.

I think they, and other English teams, should be regularly touring Australia.

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28 minutes ago, gingerjon said:

Wigan would beat England. I think they'd lose to Brisbane and probably by a fair whack but I can't see any reason to believe it would be 100 points or close to that.

I think they, and other English teams, should be regularly touring Australia.

I think this coming ashes series is going to tell us a lot about the strength of British Rugby League or lack of it.

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Luke HKR

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13 hours ago, hunsletgreenandgold said:

Just catching up on this news - very exciting! I have lots of questions but I’ll save them til we see who wins at the weekend first. 

Whoever wins on Saturday would be interested in participating though I think. The one issue is if Rovers win, they are at Vegas. 

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4 hours ago, gingerjon said:

Wigan would beat England. I think they'd lose to Brisbane and probably by a fair whack but I can't see any reason to believe it would be 100 points or close to that.

I think they, and other English teams, should be regularly touring Australia.

They should be touring Australia but they shouldn't be playing NRLW teams. They need to find their competitive level.

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14 minutes ago, Luke HKR said:

Whoever wins on Saturday would be interested in participating though I think. The one issue is if Rovers win, they are at Vegas. 

I don't forsee this being an issue. The NRL are the stubborn party. Wigan were all for getting the game on last year at all costs.

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29 minutes ago, Luke HKR said:

Whoever wins on Saturday would be interested in participating though I think. The one issue is if Rovers win, they are at Vegas. 

When the report came about last week, it said if HKR win, the WCC is planned for the weekend before Vegas, so you'd play the game and probably travel to Vegas the day after. 

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5 hours ago, lucky 7 said:

100 point loses don't do the game any favours, except in union where the losers are considered brave.

Yes, that's why their international game never gets off the ground.

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31 minutes ago, WN83 said:

When the report came about last week, it said if HKR win, the WCC is planned for the weekend before Vegas, so you'd play the game and probably travel to Vegas the day after. 

Yes,

Just depends on where the game is played. If Rovers can see it being in England, if Wigan there could be a chance it is in Australia. 

Though in all honesty, would be surprised if it wasn't in England.

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51 minutes ago, sam4731 said:

They should be touring Australia but they shouldn't be playing NRLW teams. They need to find their competitive level.

Counterpoint: they can play who they like, assuming matches can be arranged, and they won't find their competitive level if they avoid sides who are likely to be stronger.

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11 minutes ago, Luke HKR said:

Yes,

Just depends on where the game is played. If Rovers can see it being in England, if Wigan there could be a chance it is in Australia. 

Though in all honesty, would be surprised if it wasn't in England.

I think it's pretty much certain to be in England. 

If KR win on Saturday, where do you think they'd play it? I think they'd likely take the financial hit to have it at Craven Park but I'm sure it would get at least double the capacity of Craven Park elsewhere. 

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1 minute ago, WN83 said:

I think it's pretty much certain to be in England. 

If KR win on Saturday, where do you think they'd play it? I think they'd likely take the financial hit to have it at Craven Park but I'm sure it would get at least double the capacity of Craven Park elsewhere. 

I would guess Elland RD. As an outside take Bramell Lane. Last choice, but probably the most sensible would be the mkm.

The Club would definitely like it at Craven park, and a 13,000 sell out would be guaranteed. Plus a huge advantage v Brisbane, just can't see the rfl & nfl agreeing.

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1 minute ago, Luke HKR said:

I would guess Elland RD. As an outside take Bramell Lane. Last choice, but probably the most sensible would be the mkm.

The Club would definitely like it at Craven park, and a 13,000 sell out would be guaranteed. Plus a huge advantage v Brisbane, just can't see the rfl & nfl agreeing.

not sure the NFL will care to be honest 😜

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1 minute ago, Luke HKR said:

I would guess Elland RD. As an outside take Bramell Lane. Last choice, but probably the most sensible would be the mkm.

The Club would definitely like it at Craven park, and a 13,000 sell out would be guaranteed. Plus a huge advantage v Brisbane, just can't see the rfl & nfl agreeing.

I thought Elland Road as well. As you say, the most sensible would be the MKM but I fully understand how that may just be a no go. 

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On 07/10/2025 at 08:55, lucky 7 said:

I think this coming ashes series is going to tell us a lot about the strength of British Rugby League or lack of it.

This coming men's ashes series?

Can we not conclude something from the fact we have defeated NRL stacked Samoa and Tonga, by pretty much the same margins as the Kangaroos have, over the last two seasons?

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32 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

This coming men's ashes series?

Can we not conclude something from the fact we have defeated NRL stacked Samoa and Tonga, by pretty much the same margins as the Kangaroos have, other the last two seasons?

Again - we are being overly negative of the sport over here. Yes, the league isn’t as exciting, as competitive, or as big as the NRL. But we have good players, some good teams, and a decent product despite the game consistently shooting itself in the foot or some quarters being negative. 

As you say, we’ve beaten Tonga and Samoa in the last two seasons, AND Saints and Wigan have beaten the all-conquering Penrith side in the WCC. I expect we’ll be very competitive against Australia. I don’t know if we’ll win; but we’ll be super competitive. 

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If HKR win the GF where will they fit the WCC into the season's fixture list?

They are committed to Vagas with Leeds and the WCC would be another extra game.

Best thing for all is a Wigan GF win then!

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Craven Park isn’t much smaller than Donny now so there’s little point moving it there 

I think Leeds is out of the question and it’s still football season, Bramall Lane is probably similar, that kinda only leaves the MKM which is around 24k

I can see the reluctance to going there for that but if it makes financial sense then why not
 

it’s all conjecture at the moment anyway - and it’s a nice dream to be having to be honest 

 

Wigan have the perfect stadium for it if they win this week

 

 

lucky 7

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20 hours ago, Luke HKR said:

Yes,

Just depends on where the game is played. If Rovers can see it being in England, if Wigan there could be a chance it is in Australia. 

Though in all honesty, would be surprised if it wasn't in England.

Couldn't they play it in Las Vegas, with a little tinkering?

hunsletgreenandgold

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3 minutes ago, lucky 7 said:

Couldn't they play it in Las Vegas, with a little tinkering?

There would be nothing 'little' about it - you'd have to rip up the fixtures and start again. KR play Leeds - unless you think they're playing there 2 weeks in a row? And Brisbane aren't even going......

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20 hours ago, WN83 said:

I think it's pretty much certain to be in England. 

If KR win on Saturday, where do you think they'd play it? I think they'd likely take the financial hit to have it at Craven Park but I'm sure it would get at least double the capacity of Craven Park elsewhere. 

FC / Hull City’s ground would be the sensible choice, though I appreciate the fans might not be keen. 

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11 hours ago, The Duke said:

Craven Park isn’t much smaller than Donny now so there’s little point moving it there 

I think Leeds is out of the question and it’s still football season, Bramall Lane is probably similar, that kinda only leaves the MKM which is around 24k

I can see the reluctance to going there for that but if it makes financial sense then why not
 

it’s all conjecture at the moment anyway - and it’s a nice dream to be having to be honest 

 

Wigan have the perfect stadium for it if they win this week

 

 

I see the reluctance too, but then again how good would winning the WCC at the home of your rivals be. 

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hunsletgreenandgold

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I was going to leave it til after the GF, as it did feel pointless discussing potential issues for KR until we know if it'll even be them playing WCC, but seen as the conversation is happening. For me they def should play it at MKM - I get it's FC's home ground but it's not like they own it and would have to go and ask permission from their rivals - I'm sure the council would be happy and any football fixtures could be re-arranged.

The date it's played is arguably the bigger task to agree upon. I'm pretty sure with the move to 14 teams we don't even know when SL will start, but let's assume it'll mid Feb based on this year. To give enough time for KR to play the WCC and get out for Vegas it can only really be played weekend of 21st Feb? That should work for Brisbane as well with the NRL in Aus not actually starting til 5th March. 

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