Odsal is No Way Fit Enough to Stage SL!!

[JohnM]

Odsal is clearly ideal for SuperLeague since it encompasses everything the Woodby Football League stands for.

[Bulls2487]

1 hour ago, Expatknight said:

It was a dump 20 years ago, there isn’t a rugby league club in the country who could afford to ‘do up’ Odsal, let alone Bradford Bulls, the cost would be horrendous, as for your other comments the Bradford Bulls you see now don’t bear any relation to Bradford Northern who went bust, Bradford Bulls ( Super league era) who went bust, apart from the name Bradford and the fact they play at the run down hole in the ground known as Odsal. If they are so good a club why aren’t they league champions or even runners up, So tell me why they deserve to be in Super league over ant of the other clubs that have applied?

So I guess that means the previous financial issues pre 2017 can't be mentioned either which we hear a lot about? Or the sale of Odsal to the old Bulls who longer exist. Can't have it both ways.

Has the Championship season finished? Final league positions are based on the playoffs not the league table.

[Wolford6]

Odsal Stadium itself is not too bad. Don't crab the terrace until you'vestood on it . . . better than seats anyday and we have about 5000 seats if you want one.

It's the stock car track, its bollards and the size of the resultant pitch that should stop us being allowed in Superleage.

[Damien]

1 hour ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

Because its a national stadium that was done up for the Pacific Games?

Yeah this was obvious but doesn't fit the narrative. The said stadium is also basic as anything.

[hunsletgreenandgold]

14 hours ago, The Daddy said:

I can't believe more hasn't been made of the state of Odsal in this so called 'selection process' for SL.

Short of a government petition for this to be discussed in Parliament, it's fair to say it has been discussed ad nauseam. Where have you been? 

[Dave W]

I don't care what anyone says:

That first glimpse of Odsal: All you can see is a fence and the tops of floodlights and you don't know what all the fuss is about, Then you enter through the turnstiles and the world just opens open at your feet. I know it's a bit of a ###### tip nowadays, but wow.

Like the world's biggest landfill pit.

[Expatknight]

57 minutes ago, Bulls2487 said:

So I guess that means the previous financial issues pre 2017 can't be mentioned either which we hear a lot about? Or the sale of Odsal to the old Bulls who longer exist. Can't have it both ways.

Has the Championship season finished? Final league positions are based on the playoffs not the league table.

What world do you live in?

The league table finishes at the end of the regular season , hence the awarding of the League leaders shield, there is a clue in the name there, the play offs are a totally different matter conjured up to make some more money by extending the season for the top six teams it is knock out rugby and does not determine who is top of the league.

still I suppose it gives you something to cling on to until you get back from Toulouse.

[AgbriggAmbler]

1 hour ago, Wolford6 said:

Odsal Stadium itself is not too bad. Don't crab the terrace until you'vestood on it . . . better than seats anyday and we have about 5000 seats if you want one.

It's the stock car track, its bollards and the size of the resultant pitch that should stop us being allowed in Superleage.

Don't know what the 'home' terracing is like, but the section behind the sticks where I stood last year is in shocking condition...has it been renovated since?

[Pulga]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

Yeah this was obvious but doesn't fit the narrative. The said stadium is also basic as anything.

It still perfectly fits the narrative.

Port Moresby, as close to hell on earth as you can get, has a better rugby league stadium than Bradford.

[Damien]

6 minutes ago, Pulga said:

It still perfectly fits the narrative.

Port Moresby, as close to hell on earth as you can get, has a better rugby league stadium than Bradford.

Its a national stadium built for the Pacific Games. It is also a better stadium than Cronulla's. Lets ignore that though.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

7 minutes ago, Pulga said:

It still perfectly fits the narrative.

Port Moresby, as close to hell on earth as you can get, has a better rugby league stadium than Bradford.

If thats the narrative then, in just over a month's time, Liverpool will have a better RL stadium than Bradford. 

[Bulls2487]

32 minutes ago, Expatknight said:

What world do you live in?

The league table finishes at the end of the regular season , hence the awarding of the League leaders shield, there is a clue in the name there, the play offs are a totally different matter conjured up to make some more money by extending the season for the top six teams it is knock out rugby and does not determine who is top of the league.

still I suppose it gives you something to cling on to until you get back from Toulouse.

York win the League Leaders shield but under IMG points are based on where you finish in the playoffs. Positions 1 and 2 are decided by the playoff final winners and losers

Edited September 25 by Bulls2487

[Rooney's Ears]

3 minutes ago, Bulls2487 said:

York win the League Leaders shield but under IMG points are based on where you finish in the playoffs. Positions 1 and 2 are decided by the playoff final winners and losers

Which shows how much of a corrupt, ridiculous process this is. It wouldn't happen in any other sport.

Top of the league = promoted, next 6 play off for another promotion spot. Why make it any harder.

[Bull Mania]

My god the frothing at the mouth, weirdly angry lot are out in force on this topic aren't they

I don't know how they have the energy to keep writing angry paragraphs about Odsal in topic after topic. Bradfords corrupt or my current favourite the play-off system that's been in place 30 years and is in many other sports is corrupt because their team is the one that's finished top this year so it's now corrupt. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. 

Genuinely I want us to he in SL more because of the reaction on here from grown adults than anything else. 

Edited September 25 by Bull Mania

[Rooney's Ears]

1 minute ago, Bull Mania said:

My god the knuckle dragging, frothing at the mouth, weirdly angry lot are out in force on this topic aren't they

I don't know how they have the energy to keep writing angry paragraphs about Odsal in topic after topic. Bradfords corrupt or my current favourite the play-off system that's been in place 30 years and is in many other sports is corrupt because their team is the one that's finished top this year so it's now corrupt. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. 

Genuinely I want us to he in SL more because of the reaction on here from grown adults than anything else. 

We are having a debate, if you don't like it stop clicking into the thread.

[The Hallucinating Goose]

3 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:

My god the knuckle dragging, frothing at the mouth, weirdly angry lot are out in force on this topic aren't they

I don't know how they have the energy to keep writing angry paragraphs about Odsal in topic after topic. Bradfords corrupt or my current favourite the play-off system that's been in place 30 years and is in many other sports is corrupt because their team is the one that's finished top this year so it's now corrupt. Brilliant absolutely brilliant. 

Genuinely I want us to he in SL more because of the reaction on here from grown adults than anything else. 

To be fair, I'm only 5. 🪿

[Bull Mania]

11 minutes ago, Rooney's Ears said:

We are having a debate, if you don't like it stop clicking into the thread.

It's almost (key word almost) Mick Gledhill level of debate with the club centric view. The state of the OPs topic is embarrassing. "I don't like odsal so it's a disgrace they get in but absolutely fair and right my club who finished in the bottom 4 gets in" 

I'll take your play-off point

We're probably on the same side of the debate. My opinion is IMG Points should be given based on final league positions. York have been the best team of the year so should be given more points than say a team in 6th who go on a mini play-off run. I don't need to start saying it's corrupt etc because it's not. 

Edited September 25 by Bull Mania

[Rooney's Ears]

4 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:

It's almost (key word almost) Mick Gledhill level of debate with the club centric view. The state of the OPs topic is embarrassing. "I don't like odsal so it's a disgrace they get in but absolutely fair and right my club who finished in the bottom 4 gets in" 

I'll take your play-off point

We're probably on the same side of the debate. My opinion is IMG Points should be given based on final league positions. York have been the best team of the year so should be given more points than say a team in 6th go on a mini play-off run. I don't need to start saying it's corrupt etc because it's not. 

It's almost (key word almost) Mick Gledhill level of debate with the club centric view. The state of the OPs topic is embarrassing. "I don't like odsal so it's a disgrace they get in but absolutely fair and right my club who finished in the bottom 4 gets in" = I fully agree with you, i think Bradford will get in, they probably deserve to get in but it doesn't mean i have to like the ground.

We're probably on the same side of the debate. My opinion is IMG Points should be given based on final league positions. York have been the best team of the year so should be given more points than say a team in 6th go on a mini play-off run. I don't need to start saying it's corrupt etc because it's not. = Again I agree with you but you must admit assigning extra\more points for condemning areas of your ground V winning the league is very strange plus the whole points awarding system seems a but ludicrous.

[TrueBull]

Well, the question of the thread is wrong to start with. One of the 9 applicants will be the 12th team on the IMG criteria which were set up a few years ago now, with input from the (pre 2nd edition Nigel Woods) rfl and SL club chairmen. There's a fair chance it will be Bradford. 

Then, the 13th and 14th clubs will have to beg the (according to many posters on here, discussed on several other threads) selection committee , which is "literally" stacked with rabid pro-Bradford supporters to let them in. 

My own instinct is that London will be one and then York and Toulouse will have to get on their knees and beg Nigel Wood to let them be the 14th team. Then York and Toulouse supporters will forever know they are only in on the largesse of Nigel Wood.

[TrueBull]

Also, the topic head would be more accurate as this "Odsal is No Way Fit Enough to Stage SL at this point, 5months before the start of the season!!

Which is fair, at this moment. But does allow room for change. As I said somewhere else, it all depends on the terms of the contract with YorStox. Which I don't know. 

Not a lot of work would be needed to get it back to the 2014 size , which was the last season Bradford were in SL as long as YorStox can be moved. 

Otherwise, what you see is what you get. 

[Eddie]

6 hours ago, The Hallucinating Goose said:

I would love to see Odsal done up and I shouldn't think it would be too difficult. Put a new bank of seating up to and round the front of the executive boxes to complete the oval. Add some more seats, maybe leave the ends standing, and stick a roof on it. I know its easy to say do it up but where are the funds coming from? 

Bradford should be in SL over other clubs. Bradford are a big club with some rich history in recent times as well. It has been such a shame to see them stuck in Championship for so long and they need to be back in SL, especially over London.

As others have said, 10,000 fans at a historical ground like Odsal will be far more appealing than maybe 2,000 at most, at a characterless, atmospherically dead modern ground in London.

I agree with you on principle, but I don’t think Bradford will get anywhere near 10k in SL and also if London’s owners do what they say they’re going to do (if being the operative word) they’ll get more than 2k in. 

[barnyia]

84 metres long by 50 mètres wide, instead of 100x68m they love a forward battle at Bradford 

[Pulga]

1 hour ago, Damien said:

Its a national stadium built for the Pacific Games. It is also a better stadium than Cronulla's. Lets ignore that though.

Are you conflating "larger capacity" with "better"?

[The Hallucinating Goose]

8 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I agree with you on principle, but I don’t think Bradford will get anywhere near 10k in SL and also if London’s owners do what they say they’re going to do (if being the operative word) they’ll get more than 2k in. 

Alright, fair enough, they got an average of 3k last year.

[Bulls2487]

9 minutes ago, TrueBull said:

Also, the topic head would be more accurate as this "Odsal is No Way Fit Enough to Stage SL at this point, 5months before the start of the season!!

Which is fair, at this moment. But does allow room for change. As I said somewhere else, it all depends on the terms of the contract with YorStox. Which I don't know. 

Not a lot of work would be needed to get it back to the 2014 size , which was the last season Bradford were in SL as long as YorStox can be moved. 

Otherwise, what you see is what you get. 

I have heard a few places they are extending the pitch in the off season. Removing some rows from the seating stand and moving the track back. Hopefully its true.