Luke HKR Posted September 26 Posted September 26 The three nominees are. Mikey Lewis. Jai Field. Jake Connor. Now being a Hull KR fan, love to see Mikey do it again. But let's be honest, it's got to go to Jake Connor this year. Also personally, no Lam, French (who personally I think has been better than Field), Litten (who i think personally has had a better season than Mikey),or any forwards. Really not sure how they choose this anymore. 1
StandOffHalf Posted September 26 Posted September 26 I wouldn't have had much of an argument had the three nominees for 2025 been Lam, Litten and Connor. Lewis will, I think, be seen as having tailed off a bit towards the back-end. I agree that of these three it really ought to be Connor.
Fevrover Posted September 26 Posted September 26 4 hours ago, Luke HKR said: The three nominees are. Mikey Lewis. Jai Field. Jake Connor. Now being a Hull KR fan, love to see Mikey do it again. But let's be honest, it's got to go to Jake Connor this year. Also personally, no Lam, French (who personally I think has been better than Field), Litten (who i think personally has had a better season than Mikey),or any forwards. Really not sure how they choose this anymore. By their good looks ?
lacuna1 Posted September 27 Posted September 27 (edited) Connor shouldn't even be in the conversation. How can a player not get into the dream team but be the best player in the league over the season? Make it make sense..... I personally would have Connor as a nominee because he has been exceptional but how are the two awards not intrinsically linked? Edited September 27 by lacuna1 2 1
Chrispmartha Posted September 27 Posted September 27 (edited) 20 minutes ago, lacuna1 said: Connor shouldn't even be in the conversation. How can a player not get into the dream team but be the best player in the league over the season? Make it make sense..... I personally would have Connor as a nominee because he has been exceptional but how are the two awards not intrinsically linked? Erm… Edited September 27 by Chrispmartha 3
casrhino Posted October 7 Posted October 7 On 27/09/2025 at 18:59, lacuna1 said: Connor shouldn't even be in the conversation. How can a player not get into the dream team but be the best player in the league over the season? Make it make sense..... Because a GOON is picking the team.
17 stone giant Posted October 7 Posted October 7 Surely got to be in the England squad now. We can't leave out the Man of Steel. 2
my missus Posted October 7 Posted October 7 watch him trying to tackle robertson and then tell me he is MoS. 2 Through the fish-eyed lens of tear stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time(roger waters)
Loiner Posted October 8 Posted October 8 On 27/09/2025 at 18:59, lacuna1 said: Connor shouldn't even be in the conversation. How can a player not get into the dream team but be the best player in the league over the season? Make it make sense..... I personally would have Connor as a nominee because he has been exceptional but how are the two awards not intrinsically linked? Have you ever worked in a circus .
Loiner Posted October 8 Posted October 8 1 hour ago, my missus said: watch him trying to tackle robertson and then tell me he is MoS. Another former circus employee
EagleEyePie Posted October 8 Posted October 8 A really good season and one of the most influential players in the competition. Maybe not fulfilled all the potential he had when he was younger but he's become a different sort of player. I don't think he maintained his early season form throughout the year but in terms of being the single most influential individual player I don't think it's well deserved.
Wellsy4HullFC Posted October 8 Posted October 8 9 hours ago, 17 stone giant said: Surely got to be in the England squad now. We can't leave out the Man of Steel. Danny Houghton says "Hello"... 2
Chrispmartha Posted October 8 Posted October 8 12 minutes ago, EagleEyePie said: A really good season and one of the most influential players in the competition. Maybe not fulfilled all the potential he had when he was younger but he's become a different sort of player. I don't think he maintained his early season form throughout the year but in terms of being the single most influential individual player I don't think it's well deserved. I disagree about him not maintaining his form, up until his injury at Huddersfield he was in outstanding form
WN83 Posted October 8 Posted October 8 I think it's well deserved. I saw Mark Wilson tweet that he thought he only played well for half a season but the halfway point would be about June time and I felt his form held up well beyond that point. It always feels like there is a bit of recency bias with some of the calls for certain players to win it but over the course of the full season, I think he's been the leagues best/most influential player. 1
EagleEyePie Posted October 8 Posted October 8 37 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: I disagree about him not maintaining his form, up until his injury at Huddersfield he was in outstanding form I felt like he was consistently the best player pretty much every game I saw him earlier in the season whereas towards the second half of the year he was a bit less consistent and would have quieter games followed by games he seemed to be involved in everything. But I could be wrong
GeordieSaint Posted October 8 Posted October 8 4 minutes ago, EagleEyePie said: I felt like he was consistently the best player pretty much every game I saw him earlier in the season whereas towards the second half of the year he was a bit less consistent and would have quieter games followed by games he seemed to be involved in everything. But I could be wrong The big games… when it really matters. Has he stepped up? Compare that to French, Field, Lewis etc. Same levels of consistency and when his team desperately need him, has he stepped up? Rhetorical question rather than an opinion as I don’t know the answer.
WN83 Posted October 8 Posted October 8 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GeordieSaint said: The big games… when it really matters. Has he stepped up? Compare that to French, Field, Lewis etc. Same levels of consistency and when his team desperately need him, has he stepped up? Rhetorical question rather than an opinion as I don’t know the answer. I'm not sure either. He didn't play well in the pay off game against Saints and from memory the cup tie at Saints, when Leeds got knocked out but then they wouldn't really count. He was good against us at Headingley and I recall him playing well against HKR and they would. I think under the current system, he earned the award but it does highlight an issue with the points based system and that is that you get the same 3 points for playing well against Salfords reserves, as you do for playing well against a side at the top of the league. There is no weighting on playing well against the best sides and there probably should be but you can only give the award on the current set up and under that set up, I think the right man got it. If only the players could've been trusted to vote like adults I suppose. Edited October 8 by WN83 1
Chrispmartha Posted October 8 Posted October 8 5 minutes ago, WN83 said: I'm not sure either. He didn't play well in the pay off game against Saints and from memory the cup tie at Saints, when Leeds got knocked out but then they wouldn't really count. He was good against us at Headingley and I recall him playing well against HKR and they would. I think under the current system, he earned the award but it does highlight an issue with the points based system and that is that you get the same 3 points for playing well against Salfords reserves, as you do for playing well against a side at the top of the league. There is no weighting on playing well against the best sides and there probably should be but you can only give the award on the current set up and under that set up, I think the right man got it. If only the players could've been trusted to vote like adults I suppose. He got MOM in the playoff game against saints. He was terrible in the cup game against Saints, probably his worst game of the season (they don't count on MOS points though) He was instrumental in us beating Wigan, Hull KR twice, Leigh twice... Also remember he was signed as a utility player with no idea where he would play and played full back for the first five games before becoming undroppable at 7. I understand the frustrations of how the points are scored but I don't think thees any 'fair' way of doing it and at least the points system takes in the whole year rather than just catching the eye at the end of the season. All in all he deserves it I think.
Jonty58 Posted October 8 Posted October 8 16 minutes ago, WN83 said: I'm not sure either. He didn't play well in the pay off game against Saints and from memory the cup tie at Saints, when Leeds got knocked out but then they wouldn't really count. He was good against us at Headingley and I recall him playing well against HKR and they would. I think under the current system, he earned the award but it does highlight an issue with the points based system and that is that you get the same 3 points for playing well against Salfords reserves, as you do for playing well against a side at the top of the league. There is no weighting on playing well against the best sides and there probably should be but you can only give the award on the current set up and under that set up, I think the right man got it. If only the players could've been trusted to vote like adults I suppose. The same points system applies to all of the players in all teams. They all play against the weaker teams as well. 3
WN83 Posted October 8 Posted October 8 2 minutes ago, Chrispmartha said: He got MOM in the playoff game against saints. A kick out on the full and a missed tackle can play tricks on the brain I guess. I don't even know if it would count towards it to be fair. I agree with the fact that there probably isn't a perfect system. I feel if the players could be trusted to vote properly, then their votes added to coaches and press votes would be the best system but maybe it's asking too much of them.
Chrispmartha Posted October 8 Posted October 8 1 minute ago, WN83 said: A kick out on the full and a missed tackle can play tricks on the brain I guess. I don't even know if it would count towards it to be fair. I agree with the fact that there probably isn't a perfect system. I feel if the players could be trusted to vote properly, then their votes added to coaches and press votes would be the best system but maybe it's asking too much of them. Playoff games don’t count i don’t think. asking players to vote will never (and didn’t) work theyre not impartial enough. I think the system we have is probably the best way to do it.
WN83 Posted October 8 Posted October 8 1 minute ago, Jonty58 said: The same points system applies to all of the players in all teams. They all play against the weaker teams as well. Absolutely they do but surely you can acknowledge that some games have more meaning, importance, jeopardy etc than others? A player who has a big performance in a game between the top 2 sides in the league, a 4 pointer for a play off place, a Hull Derby, Wigan and Saints etc has come up with something more important and carrying more weight than running through Salfords kids IMO, yet you get the exact same amount of points. That's not to say Connor doesn't deserve the award, I think its the right winner and system is probably a conversation for a different day.
Jonty58 Posted October 8 Posted October 8 2 minutes ago, WN83 said: Absolutely they do but surely you can acknowledge that some games have more meaning, importance, jeopardy etc than others? A player who has a big performance in a game between the top 2 sides in the league, a 4 pointer for a play off place, a Hull Derby, Wigan and Saints etc has come up with something more important and carrying more weight than running through Salfords kids IMO, yet you get the exact same amount of points. That's not to say Connor doesn't deserve the award, I think its the right winner and system is probably a conversation for a different day. It would be a complicated process to add weightings to specific games. The whole process is just a bit of marketing and promo. 2
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