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LeeF
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Appeal. Lose. Refuse to play match. Get some bloke on a cruise to agree to a review. Much more publicity

RigbyLuger
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Sent into retirement by his own actions over the season?

Damien
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Player with long history of foul play and bans in getting banned for foul play shocker.

MZH

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Some would say that's the most fitting end for him.

Maybe he shouldn't go hitting people in the head.

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WN83

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9 minutes ago, Worzel said:

Seems like a proportionate punishment for an incident that wasn't even penalised, despite the video ref checking it at the time 🙄

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/jared-waerea-hargreaves-banned-grand-10552322

Going off the whole season, it was a mistake by both the referee and the VR but that is play off rugby, where the rules just get interpreted differently. 

I think it's harsh tbh and I can't lie, I hope it gets overturned and he plays. One reason is because he's an absolute legend of the game but the other is because playing against Tanginoa would make me far more nervous. Outside of being an influence on those around him, I think JWH looks like he's probably played a season or two too long. 

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Bull Mania

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With the points tally system, i do think a better system would be to at least half players penalty points they've received for the play-offs. I want to see the best players in a final, not missing through an accumulation of minor infringements.

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9 minutes ago, WN83 said:

Going off the whole season, it was a mistake by both the referee and the VR but that is play off rugby, where the rules just get interpreted differently. 

I think it's harsh tbh and I can't lie, I hope it gets overturned and he plays. One reason is because he's an absolute legend of the game but the other is because playing against Tanginoa would make me far more nervous. Outside of being an influence on those around him, I think JWH looks like he's probably played a season or two too long. 

Completely agree, think it's harsh to miss the GF for that challenge. Tanginoa can be more destructive, but JWH is more consistent and a fantastic leader. He was great against Stelens.

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StandOffHalf

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I don't like this points system.

It seems tragic and wrong that a player who is retiring should miss his last game for an incident that wasn't even deemed a penalty by the officials.

Being mean-spirited, one could say it would be a fitting way for him to bring the curtain down on his career.

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gingerjon

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I'm just a draconian sod but accumulation of points is the most reasonable way we have - especially given we have obviously moved away from punishing by yellow/red card too often in game.

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26 minutes ago, WN83 said:

Going off the whole season, it was a mistake by both the referee and the VR but that is play off rugby, where the rules just get interpreted differently. 

I think it's harsh tbh and I can't lie, I hope it gets overturned and he plays. One reason is because he's an absolute legend of the game but the other is because playing against Tanginoa would make me far more nervous. Outside of being an influence on those around him, I think JWH looks like he's probably played a season or two too long. 

 Come on tell the truth you want JWH playing because he's a loose cannon when pressured and the mostly likely player to be sent off giving Wigan the one man advantage.

WN83

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Just now, up the robins said:

 Come on tell the truth you want JWH playing because he's a loose cannon when pressured and the mostly likely player to be sent off giving Wigan the one man advantage.

I want him playing because I don't feel as threatened by him as I do Tanginoa in the first instance but that wouldn't hurt and it would be a chance. I genuinely would've liked to see him sign off in the right manner though. He's been a fantastic player over his career and I like how he's conducted himself over here. He's respectful and looks to have come for the right reasons, with him even showing his class by calling it quits, rather than keep taking the money, as he could've done. 

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Dunbar

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55 minutes ago, Worzel said:

Seems like a proportionate punishment for an incident that wasn't even penalised, despite the video ref checking it at the time 🙄

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/jared-waerea-hargreaves-banned-grand-10552322

I would have thought that the more appropriate response from a HKR fan would have been relief that he wasn't punished more at the time and KR maybe down to 12 for ten minutes or more.

You got lucky on that one.

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LeeF

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19 minutes ago, Coggo said:

Appeal, win, more publicity.

Appeal. Lose. Refuse to play match. Get some bloke on a cruise to agree to a review. Much more publicity

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Damien

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42 minutes ago, Bull Mania said:

With the points tally system, i do think a better system would be to at least half players penalty points they've received for the play-offs. I want to see the best players in a final, not missing through an accumulation of minor infringements.

Minor? Lets not make out that JWH has been banned for next to nothing and its an accumulation of trivial offences. High tackles and elbows to players heads are not minor.

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JohnM

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Can someone please change the topic title to JWH sent into retirement by his own actions

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phiggins

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I do think the points system does need some refinement. Had Litten been given a grade A and been banned from a Grand Final for accumulating 6 points over 30+ games (including CC) it would have been incredibly harsh.

Wasn't JWH on the borderline of getting a ban anyway? He was always going to get a charge for that challenge. 

Old Frightful

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1 hour ago, Bull Mania said:

I want to see the best players in a final, not missing through an accumulation of minor infringements.

What has this to do with JWH?

He came off the bench v Leeds and turned the game Leeds’ way, losing the ball and giving a penalty away.

I understand Wigan are appealing the ban.

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Dunbar

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I don't really care about Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, he has been his own worst enemy his entire career.

But I would like to see the disciplinary points reset at the end of the regular season and moving into the playoffs, similar to what they do with the yellow card accumulation in the various football competitions.

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Just Browny

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Sorry, I don't feel sorry for that thug. Missing a game because he smacked a winger is just about the most fitting end.

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Worzel

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39 minutes ago, JohnM said:

Can someone please change the topic title to JWH sent into retirement by his own actions

I have agency. You don't have to agree with me, but you don't get to re-write my words. Crack on criticising them, that's cool.

I've always been the view that punishment should be proportionate. I don't think this is. Let's not pretend that descretion doesn't exit, and doesn't ever get applied, because it does. Lam didn't miss last week's semi-final fr example. 

From a Hull KR perspective as WN83 says we probably have a stronger 17 without him so I don't have a dog in the fight for that reason, it's not like he'll be banned from the dressing room or the sideline so his winning attitude will still be present. I just think as a long-term servant of the game he deserves better. 

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Worzel

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19 minutes ago, Dunbar said:

I don't really care about Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, he has been his own worst enemy his entire career.

But I would like to see the disciplinary points reset at the end of the regular season and moving into the playoffs, similar to what they do with the yellow card accumulation in the various football competitions.

This is my view too. 

Worzel

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For clarity, this is the "incident". Pretty standard second-man-to-complete-the-tackle affair, not any sense of malice in here, no deliberate targeting of the head. Standard rugby collision. There's even a 3rd man in on top afterwards so you can't make the case it's late, or that it was unnecessary for JWH to join the 1st man.

 

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2 minutes ago, Worzel said:

For clarity, this is the "incident". Pretty standard second-man-to-complete-the-tackle affair, not any sense of malice in here, no deliberate targeting of the head. Standard rugby collision. There's even a 3rd man in on top afterwards so you can't make the case it's late, or that it was unnecessary for JWH to join the 1st man.

 

Yes it was a standard rugby collision, apart from the part where he hits him high.

He's 36, he should have learnt how to join a tackle without hitting the opponents head.

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